Thailand believes condemnation will reduce chances of resolving conflict in Ukraine

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, stoner said:

did you actually post this as a serious comment ? 

What about the UK police arresting people for protesting about Randy Andy? This is a guy who, like his big brother Old Charley, awards himself medals, and was hiding in his helicopter during the Falklands war, and we all know about his past, don't we?

[Chopinbkk]

2 hours ago, anandra said:

yes, you are a drunk russian troll. spreading total nonsense, behaving like a clown, you might be drinking not lao kha o but glass cleaning liquid that is very popular among poor russians, who have no money, it is true, just sober up, and listen to what putin said, all demilitirisation and other rubbish is сancelled now. 

No, I don't think this is an official drunk Russian troll.
Those are well trained and much more skilled in their demagogy.
He is just a hopeless drunk Russian, on the wrong side of history .... 

[proton]

5 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

Afternoon tovarich, mass murdering war criminals like Putin will always have their twisted supporters. 

[nahkit]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand is, however, strongly opposed to intimidation or the use of force by one state against the territorial sovereignty of another and to the use of force to annex territory of another state without provocation

What are the chances of them actually saying that at the opening of the upcoming APEC meeting?

[Brian Hull]

Unfortunately, with all its attractions, the guts to stand up for what is right and wrong is not one of Thailand's qualities. It's a nation of sheep, not tigers. Making merit at the temple and praying to Buddha isn't going to help rid Ukraine of Putin's murderous invaders. Talk of diplomacy under the circumstances is absolutely ridiculous. The facts are that without provocation or justification or even a declaration of war, Russia invaded Ukraine and has killed thousands, displaced millions, and devastated its towns and cities. There are 150,000 Russian soldiers in Ukraine while there are NO Ukrainian soldiers in Russia. Russia is attacking Ukrainian civilian areas on a daily basis with missiles and artillery fired from Russian soil but Ukraine is not firing back. There is nothing to negotiate until such time as the Russians have been completely expelled from Ukraine. And then the negotiations should be about how much time should the war criminal, Putin, spend in gaol, and how many roubles is Russia going to pay to Ukraine for reparations.

[worldexpress]

And they want F-35s. Really?

Historically and predictably two-faced spineless country that would "freelance" itself in a heartbeat to profit whenever and wherever. Principles and moral values mean absolutely nothing here. Disgusting.

[joecoolfrog]

5 hours ago, pavloh said:

As opposed to western propaganda . 

There is no need for western propaganda , most of us have functioning eyes , ears and brains !

[Jingthing]

Lovely (genocidal) people.

You can't negotiate with such people.

You can need to defeat them in war.

It's not Ukraine threatening genocide against Russia.

It's Russia threatening genocide against Ukraine.

Thailand or any other country being neutral on this gives support to genocide. There is no moral or ethical middle ground on this.

 

Russian Lawmaker Says Eliminating Ukrainians the 'Only' Solution (newsweek.com)

[joecoolfrog]

5 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

I recall that Lenin's expression was ' useful idiots ' to describe those that swallowed his propaganda. 

[superal]

The topic being , Thailand-believes-condemnation-will-reduce-chances-of-resolving-conflict-in-Ukraine ,

Resolution ? no chance because as long as Putin remains in Power , Ukraine's Zelenskyy will not enter talks . No intervention will happen as there are no formidable neutrals . 100% revenge is what Ukraine is looking for  . The countless Russian war crimes are unforgivable and there is no hiding place for Putin , unless exiled within China . Had Thailand condemned the Russian action , there may have been a rethink by Russia ? Day by day and week by week Russia is becoming an isolated country because of multiple sanctions with its people trying to escape from the doom & gloom . Will Russia soon run out of missiles or will they be nullified by the new NATO supplies of air defence missiles ? Biggest danger at the moment seems to be coming from North Korea . 

 

[cnx101]

Tourists money, no other reason 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, superal said:

The topic being , Thailand-believes-condemnation-will-reduce-chances-of-resolving-conflict-in-Ukraine ,

Resolution ? no chance because as long as Putin remains in Power , Ukraine's Zelenskyy will not enter talks . No intervention will happen as there are no formidable neutrals . 100% revenge is what Ukraine is looking for  . The countless Russian war crimes are unforgivable and there is no hiding place for Putin , unless exiled within China . Had Thailand condemned the Russian action , there may have been a rethink by Russia ? Day by day and week by week Russia is becoming an isolated country because of multiple sanctions with its people trying to escape from the doom & gloom . Will Russia soon run out of missiles or will they be nullified by the new NATO supplies of air defence missiles ? Biggest danger at the moment seems to be coming from North Korea . 

 

Yeah I guess NK is a threat but it's hard to view him as anything but a clown who has cried wolf way too many times. I think he's acting up lately because he's not getting the attention he needs in light of the war.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, cnx101 said:

Tourists money, no other reason 

What tourists other than some oligarchs in yachts and draft dodgers stopping here in their Asian escape circuit?

[JimmyJ]

11 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

I recall that Lenin's expression was ' useful idiots ' to describe those that swallowed his propaganda. 

You recall incorrectly.

 

There is no evidence that Lenin ever used that phrase.

[AnotherFarang8]

The collective West and its ruling puppets in Ukraine will be waging this war against Russia to the last Ukrainian. It’s clear as a day. Thailand did the right thing in this vote but this voting changes nothing.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, JimmyJ said:

You recall incorrectly.

 

There is no evidence that Lenin ever used that phrase.

I don't know or really care about the original but it's a very common phrase and it's very often quite apt to be used to describe many individuals. For example the ex US president. He clearly wasn't directly on the Kremlin payroll, but his fawning over Putin (and most other strong man autocrats in the world) over many years fits that role of that common phrase.

[Pattaya Spotter]

I would tend to agree...demonizing the party you will eventually have to sit down with to work out a peace settlement is not very useful.

[johnc925]

6 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Clearly you are as insane as putin.

Clearly, the masses have not read enough of history and what prompted the invasion. The West armed, put Zelinsky in power, and (I suspect) destroyed the pipeline... Demz want a war, so they can line their pockets... nothing short of pawn wars.

[IamNoone88]

3 hours ago, anandra said:

so if somebody kicks you in the face in the street and knoks you out, you would prefer evrybody around to abstain. Great position

How many innocent bystanders have been stabbed to death or shot for interfering? If you feel so strongly off you go to defend Ukraine .... or will you abstain .....

[superal]

23 minutes ago, Brian Hull said:

Unfortunately, with all its attractions, the guts to stand up for what is right and wrong is not one of Thailand's qualities. It's a nation of sheep, not tigers. Making merit at the temple and praying to Buddha isn't going to help rid Ukraine of Putin's murderous invaders. Talk of diplomacy under the circumstances is absolutely ridiculous. The facts are that without provocation or justification or even a declaration of war, Russia invaded Ukraine and has killed thousands, displaced millions, and devastated its towns and cities. There are 150,000 Russian soldiers in Ukraine while there are NO Ukrainian soldiers in Russia. Russia is attacking Ukrainian civilian areas on a daily basis with missiles and artillery fired from Russian soil but Ukraine is not firing back. There is nothing to negotiate until such time as the Russians have been completely expelled from Ukraine. And then the negotiations should be about how much time should the war criminal, Putin, spend in gaol, and how many roubles is Russia going to pay to Ukraine for reparations.

Putin in jail ? I think a firing squad if he can be caught . Ukraine not firing back because it is both not allowed to attack Russia , does not have the missiles (yet) and can only defend Ukraine as any attack on Russia using NATO supplied weapons will be seen by Russia as the start of WW3 because NATO supplied the arms to Ukraine . Yes its true and I get your point that Russia can sit within Russia and send missiles at will . So if the arms supplied to Ukraine were not free issue but were bought by Ukraine , could they then attack Russia ?

[aussienam]

It's usually always the rogue corrupted states that abstain from voting against Russia's continual war crimes. 

The developed nations with free and open democracies and low corruption are the ones who point out the wrongs of others. Unfortunately Thailand is not one. It sits in rogue state territory.  

No surprise to anyone that Thailand is willing to turn a blind eye for their friend dictator Putin.  

[Nupy147]

Thailand wants Russian tourists.

They banned the Burmese junta from APEC as Burmese tourists not wanted. Matter of economics

 not courage to condemn! 

[anandra]

7 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

How many innocent bystanders have been stabbed to death or shot for interfering? If you feel so strongly off you go to defend Ukraine .... or will you abstain ....

 Smells of russian troll ))not evem all ukrainians will fight at this war, no need for it, normal armies fight by modern weapon, advanced tactics, skills, not by throwing their soldiers as meat as russians have been doing for centuries. 

[iwan55555]

Some real keyboard warriors here… funny how every little “pro” or “neutral” russian comment gets burned hard…   Being referred as a troll or whatever nonsense, keyboard warriors supporting a Ukraine clown who is just a pawn for warmongering US/Nato… sad..

 

As for complaining so hard about Thailands choice of vote… well everyone could already know Thailand would make this choice… and again its the correct choice they made.  

[Mickmouse1]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very naive.

The only way for there to be a peaceful end game for Putin's folly war is for Ukraine to continue to win decisively. 

Putin's goal remains and will always be to erase the nation of Ukraine forever. ALL of it.

Sorry that the Thai leaders don't see it (they probably do but insist on not making waves).

Why not? 

[Artisi]

7 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

There was no surprise Thailand was going to vote The way China and Russia voted Thailand has no balls TIT

And normally very little tit..... 

[metisdead]

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[Noris]

5 hours ago, Derek B said:

The West does not have a propaganda machine - we have free speech by and large without the need to lock people up for up to 15 years.

 

And Julian Assange? This is a war of Propaganda, nothing more.

[trainman34014]

50 minutes ago, cnx101 said:

Tourists money, no other reason 

You forgot loads of Cheap Gas !

[chalawaan]

While I support Ukraine, I see no reason for Thailand to get involved and condemn Russia. 

It's not diplomatically necessary or of much benefit to Thailand, or Ukraine. 

 

In any case, Thailand can't point the finger at Russia, as both have a corrupt oligarchy, buying up football teams and UK assets,  dodgy elections, a fake democracy, even a Crimean style historical and questionable land grab of Malaysia, which is the cause of the southern troubles, and lastly, they're both doing military conscription.  

Even the flags are similar! ????????????