13 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Have you tried turning the lights off before undressing?

I never got why anyone has sex with the lights off, unless they are so ugly that dogs run away in fear at the sight of them.

I certainly never had sex with anyone that was so ugly I didn't want to look at them.

IMO sex is as much a visual feast as a physical one.

12 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

I love my gf. It is about soul. One of her friends is hotter but no soul. Just bimbo

 

Right now I'd have soul less sex with a real person, as it beats abstinence every time.

 

I'll never have sex with someone looks like granny, and that's my only options these days.

I can't find a quote on google, but I remember a comment from Prince Charles when he was a young man that he fell in love all the time. I used to be like that in Thailand, but since leaving that happy country the availability of idols to fall in love with has reduced by 99.9%.

Nope, I don't. 

11 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I tend to fall in lust with women, at least in Thailand. I have homes in two other countries, and I rarely if ever fall in lust there. I do like my homes, however, even if I mostly live a platonic life there. Thailand, however, brings out the dopamine in me.

Exactly.

 

Thai women are easy to lust after, but difficult to love.

No, I fell in love and that was enough. I don't fall in love with any woman I see.

I fell in love with my hand.  It has never told me, "Not tonight.  I have a head(hand)ache."  Or asked me for money.

Just remember the definition of stupidity before you fall in love again....

My most expensive hobby after 3 divorces and 4 marriages. 

13 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Made me think early on, i would say i loved them in my way. 

 

Then i met someone and married after the hell's bells and poetry period which i found is about 3 months. 

 

I did use a saying from a film that a man can't live with the same woman for more than 20 years it just ain't natural. 

 

I been married now 19 years my wife says do you still luv me, I say of course i do i wouldn't be here otherwise and no way will i leave her now at my age. 

 

I still find that i need time to spend with a Mia noi on the side secretly of course and being very careful it can be platonic or otherwise for as long as it lasts,  getting hard to do though these days or more like unable to get hard. ????

 

 

 

 

Prostate playing up???

Fall  in love???

 

Only if she tells me I am hansum......

11 minutes ago, blazes said:

Fall  in love???

 

Only if she tells me I am hansum......

Has she....? ????

17 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

How long does it take? 1 week? 1 month?

Sometimes one minute.

10 hours ago, Adumbration said:

I love my Thai GF. 

So do I, has she told you yet ?????

I think one measure for loving someone and committing longer term is seeing your partner when they are very angry. I think that speaks volumes. Unfortunately for me I find someone woman sexy when they are a bit angry (not violent or throwing things or hurting anyone or anything).

Also, the lie barometer. - In what instances will they lie, to keep from hurting someone's feelings? For financial gain?  Or simply because it is convenient. 

It seems Thai society has a different criteria for what constitutes a lie. 

And if you do, do they fall in love with you? 

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

Prostate playing up???

Nope prostate fine as are most organs and not bad for someone my age, i don't like having to take viargra.

Probably only two ladies in my life where it just felt right, no effort just being in their company 

18 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You are allowed to say *sex*

I had things much more explicit in mind.

17 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Absolutely not. A beautiful woman becomes even more beautiful naked.

Age plays hell on those "beautiful" women.  My own wife was hotter than a firecracker back in the day.  Now in her 60s and fond of food?

Her "beauty" isn't anything that is reflected in a mirror.  Especially naked.

1 hour ago, jingjai9 said:

I think one measure for loving someone and committing longer term is seeing your partner when they are very angry. I think that speaks volumes. Unfortunately for me I find someone woman sexy when they are a bit angry (not violent or throwing things or hurting anyone or anything).

Also, the lie barometer. - In what instances will they lie, to keep from hurting someone's feelings? For financial gain?  Or simply because it is convenient. 

It seems Thai society has a different criteria for what constitutes a lie. 

My wife was perfect when I married her- never got angry. Couple years after signed the paper she started to get angry, and the lovin' stopped. Eventually she became angry all the time, and it's not possible to love someone that's always angry, so got divorced.

Couple years later wanted me to come back, "made a mistake". Too late.

 

As for lying; lied all the time, but only for her benefit.

16 hours ago, Rhys said:

Because  this guy is better.

She 'dresses right' as my tailor would say.

1 minute ago, connda said:

Age plays hell on those "beautiful" women.  My own wife was hotter than a firecracker back in the day.  Now in her 60s and fond of food?

Her "beauty" isn't anything that is reflected in a mirror.  Especially naked.

Hence the Mia noi.  ????

I have friends that are in love just like a teenager.  All of them are bleeding money like no tomorrow.  Their 20 year younger thai wife's are all smiles.  But have no respect for their husbands.  I know enough thai to understand what they say when they all get together.  One says her old husband isn't dieing fast enough. Another cut off all sex waiting for him to cheat so she can kick him out. Another says she is always looking for a bigger sucker with more money. They all give each other advice on how to get more out of their rich farang.  

So am I in love. Hell no. But she buts up with me . And trusts I will take care of her as I have promised as long as she doesn't do or act like a gold digger. 

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Hence the Mia noi.  ????

A roll with a business woman is has no emotional residue and associated risk, and there is never ending choice.  Gigs and mia nois are a headache.

Just now, connda said:

A roll with a business woman is has no emotional residue and associated risk, and there is never ending choice.  Gigs and mia nois are a headache.

But so much fun ????

Is obsessing about how beautiful your golf clubs are qualify as love? lol ????

2 minutes ago, connda said:

A roll with a business woman is has no emotional residue and associated risk, and there is never ending choice.  Gigs and mia nois are a headache.

I don't see it like that Mia noi is just the term but for me it's possible to have a close friendship outside the marriage because I like the romance and only 5 or 6 times a year,  how long it lasts is not known. 

As a younger and then adult (bodily only) man I had no idea what love was. Lust and obsessional forms yes but love no. My family taught me what love wasn't not what it was, sacrificial, stoical, Calvanist hard working, numb yes, but engaged no.

I spent decades in therapy and painfully, oh so painfully making the growing mistakes of how to love maturely many years past the natural points of doing so as one grows from childhood to adolescence to early and older manhood.

I came from the 50's and from a white-centric patriarchal society that lowered women and drove men to feel little and to mock and attack any man who did feel and have any emotional intelligence.

I got the shock of my life (amongst many on the journey to myself and a somewhat healthy manhood) when I read M.Scott Peck say; 'love was a decision, a daily decision, obsessing and loosing ones mind for another is not love'. He went on to describe the process of growing into love of a significant-other. It was the exact opposite of what I had always done.

I listened to and eventually worked with John Bradshaw, Robert Bly and many wonderful soulful empowered grounded men and together we grew each other up. 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

My wife was perfect when I married her- never got angry. Couple years after signed the paper she started to get angry, and the lovin' stopped. Eventually she became angry all the time, and it's not possible to love someone that's always angry, so got divorced.

Couple years later wanted me to come back, "made a mistake". Too late.

 

As for lying; lied all the time, but only for her benefit.

Too late now