Popular Post webfact Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 Picture: Daily News Daily News spoke to a man they identified as Peter P****r, 74, via an interpreter after a collision on a zebra crossing on Jomtien Sai 2 yesterday morning. They said in their headline that he was British. Shocking CCTV footage posted to the page of Tanagrit Ployngam showed the "tourist" step out onto a zebra crossing controlled by lights. WARNING: The VIDEO may be disturbing for some viewers. Discretion is advised. The media said that a white Isuzu D-Max with a cover on the back failed to stop and drove off after the collision without a care offering no help to the victim. Picture: Daily News Other vehicles had slowed to a halt. The victim was left sprawled on the tarmac. The Facebook post said it happened outside a condominium and there was an appeal for information to track down the driver as the plate was indistinct. A member of the public helped him to hospital where he was given 4 stitches to a head wound and xrays for a hip injury. He was waiting on the results of these xrays and told the media that he would be reporting the matter to the police this morning. Daily News had a picture captioned with 'Welcome to Thailand', a phrase also in their headline. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-11-29 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 2 3
Popular Post smedly Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 lets be clear - the driver of the white pickup went through a red light, it matters not a jot the location of this traffic light YOU STOP ON RED period 42 1 10 10 3
Popular Post CelticBhoy Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 Peter was more than lucky there. Made of stern stuff, that's for sure! Let's hope they get the chicken driving the truck. 10 7 4
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 Wow. Didn't even attempt to slow down before the collision. Either playing with his phone or deliberately struck the guy. I wonder if this will get the same media attention as the pretty Thai female doctor hit by the Ducati in Bangkok? That was a rhetorical question obviously.... 12 4 3
Popular Post Blue Muton Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 If the British (and other) embassy here cared at all about the well-being of their citizens they would be calling the Thai government to account for this, with the message that tourists expect traffic to stop at marked crossings and that they must either be enforced or removed. 17 13 2 11
Popular Post emanphoto Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, webfact said: reporting the matter to the police this morning. I don’t know about other countries, but in the US, minor injuries or not, the police come to you! We don’t get hit by a car and then have to drag ourselves the effen station. Good grief. Very lucky guy in any case. 33 7
Popular Post Dmaxdan Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 Thai people don't stop at zebra crossings. So therefore any person crossing the road has to one hundred percent aware of this and be fully focused on what is going on around them until they reached the relative safety of the other side of the road. You should never, ever rely upon others for your own safety when crossing the road!!!!! 11 1 17 8
Popular Post Crossy Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 There's a fairly extensive thread (now locked - please continue in this thread) here: - 2 1
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said: Thai people don't stop at zebra crossings. So therefore any person crossing the road has to one hundred percent aware of this and be fully focused on what is going on around them until they reached the relative safety of the other side of the road. You should never, ever rely upon others for your own safety when crossing the road!!!!! Interesting username, do you drive a white D-Max by any chance? ???? 2 1 17
Popular Post nigelforbes Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 The problem here is is the increasing number of vehicle owners who spray paint their license plates white, in order to avoid detection by camera's. It's a prolific and obvious problem that nobody seems to care about, some of the abuse is so blatant with owners saying the black paint peeled off, not that the plate was painted white...horse poo.. 6
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: If the British (and other) embassy here cared at all about the well-being of their citizens they would be calling the Thai government to account for this, with the message that tourists expect traffic to stop at marked crossings and that they must either be enforced or removed. Are Thai embassies in the UK calling the UK government to account, every time someone runs a red light or a Thai person is injured in a car accident. A person ran a red light and hit somebody, happens all over the world, usually doesn't warrant, or get, an international diplomatic response. 4 2 2
Popular Post Crossy Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, nigelforbes said: some of the abuse is so blatant with owners saying the black paint peeled off, not that the plate was painted white...horse poo.. The black coming off was actually an issue with a batch of plates in the past, but this was years ago and all affected plates "should" have been replaced by now. 3 1 2
Popular Post Stocky Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 I don't know why they bother marking pedestrian crossings on the roads, all it does is lull people into a false sense of security. They should add skull & cross bone warnings signs just to emphasise how dangerous they can be. 16 18 2 1
Popular Post Lemsta69 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said: Thai people don't stop at zebra crossings. Sure they do. My buddy managed to get four lanes of peak hour traffic to stop for us at a zebra crossing in Chinatown a few months back. It was scary as hell and I think at least one motosai popped through, as expected, but all the cars stopped and we got across fine. 3 1 3
Popular Post hotandsticky Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: Sure they do. My buddy managed to get four lanes of peak hour traffic to stop for us at a zebra crossing in Chinatown a few months back. It was scary as hell and I think at least one motosai popped through, as expected, but all the cars stopped and we got across fine. To be fair, they are pretty good near Wat Mongkol station......I just make sure that I follow a Chinese person across the road...... 5
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, smedly said: lets be clear - the driver of the white pickup went through a red light, it matters not a jot the location of this traffic light YOU STOP ON RED period There is no mention in the OP that the lights were red. If you are familiar with that particular crossing, the lights are usually not even turned on. I live just around the corner, they are regularly turned off for months at a time. 1 1 1
Popular Post Blue Muton Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Are Thai embassies in the UK calling the UK government to account, every time someone runs a red light or a Thai person is injured in a car accident. A person ran a red light and hit somebody, happens all over the world, usually doesn't warrant, or get, an international diplomatic response. Not sure where you got your PhD in comparing apples and oranges, but congratulations. 2 1 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 They should prosecute the driver for attempted murder and send him to jail. If that would happen often enough, then maybe some drivers would have an incentive to stop. Just the fact that maybe they kill somebody seems not to be important enough for some. 6 5
toofarnorth Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, nigelforbes said: The problem here is is the increasing number of vehicle owners who spray paint their license plates white, in order to avoid detection by camera's. It's a prolific and obvious problem that nobody seems to care about, some of the abuse is so blatant with owners saying the black paint peeled off, not that the plate was painted white...horse poo.. Yes I was getting my Forza taxed and tested last week and a chap brought in a Honda Wave and he was getting black paint put on his numbers. I hope he got a bill for this. 1
nigelforbes Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: There is no mention in the OP that the lights were red. If you are familiar with that particular crossing, the lights are usually not even turned on. I live just around the corner, they are regularly turned off for months at a time. Now we know where he lives, let's all go round and surprise Peter, but don't tell him. 2
Popular Post Will B Good Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 To be fair, if the driver had had a few, and/or was on his phone and/or lighting up, he might not have even noticed what happened...........people are too quick to jump to conclusions claiming he just drove off.....NOOdle heads I call them. 7
RafPinto Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 It always seems that someone just speeds up when seeing someone on a zebra crossing. I would like to see a survey of how many thais actually know the meaning of it. 1
Popular Post Crossy Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Will B Good said: To be fair, if the driver had had a few, and/or was on his phone and/or lighting up, he might not have even noticed what happened...........people are too quick to jump to conclusions claiming he just drove off.....NOOdle heads I call them. He definitely slowed after impact (almost stopped in fact) before zooming off into the distance. No way he wasn't aware he'd hit someone. 10 2 2
Popular Post Crossy Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Peterw42 said: There is no mention in the OP that the lights were red. Indeed, but observing the other pedestrian (crossing from the opposite side) and the other vehicles travelling alongside the pickup it's reasonably easy to conclude that the lights were actually active, and that they had just turned green for pedestrians. 3 2
Popular Post BangkokHank Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Crossy said: He definitely slowed after impact (almost stopped in fact) before zooming off into the distance. No way he wasn't aware he'd hit someone. He slowed down at first because he thought he had hit a dog, but when he realized that it was "just" a farang, he concluded that it wasn't necessary to stop. 1 1 3
Peterw42 Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Crossy said: Indeed, but observing the other pedestrian (crossing from the opposite side) and the other vehicles travelling alongside the pickup it's reasonably easy to conclude that the lights were actually active, and that they had just turned green for pedestrians. Yes, you are most likely correct, but the crossing is quiet an odd set up. As I said previously, the lights are turned off a lot of the time, when it is turned on there is no pedestrian call button (press and wait to change), so how/when the lights go red appears to be on some sort of random timer, not in response to pedestrians wanting to cross. So a drive up to get the milk, all of a sudden there is a red light where there hasn't been one for 3 months, and there is a red light with no pedestrians anywhere.
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Peterw42 said: Are Thai embassies in the UK calling the UK government to account, every time someone runs a red light or a Thai person is injured in a car accident. Don't be silly.... Road safety in Thailand cannot be compared to road safety in the UK. IF foreign bodies, embassies and businesses, chambers of commerce etc applied pressurise on the Thai government to face these issues it may cause sufficient lost of face to trigger those in positions of decision making power to care. 2 hours ago, Peterw42 said: A person ran a red light and hit somebody, happens all over the world, usually doesn't warrant, or get, an international diplomatic response. The ‘it happens elsewhere’ does not make ‘light jumping acceptable’... and it happens here in Thailand a lot lot more than in nations with effective policing. 6 1
Popular Post Jen65 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 You can forget about the traffic stopping at red lights ( notably Thais ) as they don't give a damn about red lights, traffic law, pedestrian rights etc etc ! There is NIL / Nada/Zero policing and bringing offenders to justice ( the guy in the white pickup will likely blame the brakes !!) The new driving license points system will not deter stupid ! I have seen someone mown down on 2nd road in Jomtien near the Immigration soi ! Traffic was speeding through there at a minimum 80kh with not a care in the world for what the pedestrian traffic lights show. Yesterday I sat at Chaiyapruk crossroads on 2nd road waiting the lights to turn green . A white Fortuner whizzed by going in the lane to turn right but actually went straight on with a red light ! It's on my dashcam !! Motorbikes just ignore the red lights . Best advice for tourists /pedestrians - forget about lights/zebra marked crossings - use the simple rule " look right , look left , look right again and if IF clear , go ahead , cross !!! ( this is NOT Europe or the West , but the "Wild West" of Thailand !!) 7 3 1
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Will B Good said: To be fair, if the driver had had a few, and/or was on his phone and/or lighting up, he might not have even noticed what happened...........people are too quick to jump to conclusions claiming he just drove off.....NOOdle heads I call them. The driver may not have noticed that they hit a pedestrian ??? Come on, you really think thats possible... someone would need to be extremely drunk to not to notice they’d hit a pedestrian... Those who 'Hit-n-run’ really need to face extreme charges... So much is wrong with the roads here, so few <deleted>’s given by those is positions of decision making power. 1 2
Popular Post ukrules Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: The driver may not have noticed that they hit a pedestrian ??? Come on, you really think thats possible... someone would need to be extremely drunk to not to notice they’d hit a pedestrian... Those who 'Hit-n-run’ really need to face extreme charges... So much is wrong with the roads here, so few <deleted>’s given by those is positions of decision making power. Whoosh! 3
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