January 6 committee releases final report, says Trump should be barred from office

[Scott]

 

The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection recommends barring former President Donald Trump from holding office again.

The recommendation is among the conclusions of the panel’s final report, a comprehensive overview of the bipartisan panel’s findings on how Trump and his allies sought to overturn the 2020 presidential election, released late Thursday evening.

The 845-page report – based on 1,000-plus interviews, documents collected including emails, texts, phone records and a year and a half of investigation – includes allegations that Trump “oversaw” the legally dubious effort to put forward fake slates of electors in seven states he lost, arguing that the evidence shows he actively worked to “transmit false Electoral College ballots to Congress and the National Archives” despite concerns among his lawyers that doing so could be unlawful.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/politics/jan-6-committee-final-report/index.html

[Scott]

For those who are interested, the report can be accessed here:

 

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/Report_FinalReport_Jan6SelectCommittee.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0lcGnW7UB7vqLWGp-eNGuNcQruF-ywfnb2kGRraO-85oo4S2PlnGPdnfk

 

[KhunLA]

840 pages of trump bashing ... no thanks, I can get that right here on AN.

 

File that report with:

9/11 Commission 

Warren Commission

House Committee on Un-American Activities

... endless other investigations

[Tug]

Hopefully trumps term has exposed the weaknesses in our system so they can be fixed so this doesn’t happen again imo mr trump went far beyond just being a bad president he needs to be held accountable come what may if it causes violence so be it he cannot be allowed to hold office or break the law lock that fraud up!

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Hopefully trumps term has exposed the weaknesses in our system so they can be fixed so this doesn’t happen again imo mr trump went far beyond just being a bad president he needs to be held accountable come what may if it causes violence so be it he cannot be allowed to hold office or break the law lock that fraud up!

The committee was right to ask for his tax returns. They have a lot of fixing to do. Nobody anticipated what would happen if a criminal racketeer got to be president.

[RichardColeman]

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

[Scouse123]

He gave a bad impression of the USA on the world stage to say he was the POTUS. He received a great deal of airtime worldwide and was totally erratic.

 

He was corrupt, a liar, misogynist,  an egotistical maniac as well as a sociopath and not fit for office.

 

His choices of underlings were driven by nepotism and the USA needs to leave this sorry episode behind.

 

He was no statesman, a danger to the US and those around him and he was totally a loose cannon.

[Scouse123]

13 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

Get your point, but I am talking about Trump as an individual, not as a Republican or Democrat.

 

Whichever party he represented, he would have made it all about HIM.

 

The guy can't help himself.

[Skeptic7]

Should be barred from office. Should have been removed barred the first go-round. Should also be behind bars. 

[ozimoron]

29 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

Then there are the witness transcripts which form the evidence. Mostly from Republicans and employees of the Trump white house.

[Skeptic7]

31 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

A damning report based on testimony of predominantly republican witnesses, Trump staff, attorneys, supporters and family. ALL figured❗

[HappyExpat57]

37 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

45 supporters wrong again! It was led by Democrats AND Republicans and the vast majority of their witnesses were Republican.

 

They took painstaking efforts to document FACTS, a thing that 45 supporters are immune to.

[swm59nj]

Hopefully the GOP will not allow him to run for President.  

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, swm59nj said:

Hopefully the GOP will not allow him to run for President.  

They're too weak to stop him. They've proved that already.

[Tug]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

They're too weak to stop him. They've proved that already.

Weak and spineless they are so terrified of trump and their base that they all go down to mar a largo to grovel and simper at his feet disgusting!

[ozimoron]

Far-right extremists who believed they were answering Donald Trump’s call to stop the transfer of presidential power didn’t just join the Jan. 6 mob — they led it.

 

The first wave of rioters to enter the Capitol during the siege, according to the Jan. 6 select committee’s final report released Thursday night, was disproportionately comprised of members of the Proud Boys, Three Percenters, QAnon fanatics and so-called Groypers loyal to Nick Fuentes, the former president’s racist and antisemitic recent Mar-a-Lago dinner guest.

 

Among the central findings of the select panel’s report: Trump’s incendiary lies about the 2020 election activated an extraordinary coalition of far-right militants and conspiracy theorists who not only joined the mob but were its vanguard smashing through police lines.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/22/jan-6-committee-releases-full-final-report-on-capitol-attack-00075380

 

[Scott]

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[TKDfella]

I am a Conservative, but not American. As I have mentioned elsewhere, I don't like Fmr Pres. Trump. But any decision to bar him from this and that (or anyone else for that matter) should be at least bipartisan or in a court of Justice. Otherwise, it is just left against right. It was obvious from the failed impeachment that the Democrats wanted FP Trump out of the way, so to speak, so such a statement by them is hardly surprising.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

I am a Conservative, but not American. As I have mentioned elsewhere, I don't like Fmr Pres. Trump. But any decision to bar him from this and that (or anyone else for that matter) should be at least bipartisan or in a court of Justice. Otherwise, it is just left against right. It was obvious from the failed impeachment that the Democrats wanted FP Trump out of the way, so to speak, so such a statement by them is hardly surprising.

It will be. The committee has only made a recommendation. Trump will need to be convicted of insurrection to be barred from office. That will occur in a court as you suggest.

[newnative]

Yes, ban him from holding any office in the future.  And, jail time would be nice.

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

Nothing at all to do with party politics. Trump engaged in unlawful activities, end of.

[Bangkok Barry]

The problem, and it's a huge one, is that if Trump is banned from standing for office again then many of those who support him would take to the streets and start burning down buildings. There can be no doubt about that. So, basically, America is looking at a very bleak future. And that will affect us all, because if America is burning then the dollar will fall into the toilet, and that will impact almost every currency on Earth.

[gejohesch]

4 hours ago, TKDfella said:

I am a Conservative, but not American. As I have mentioned elsewhere, I don't like Fmr Pres. Trump. But any decision to bar him from this and that (or anyone else for that matter) should be at least bipartisan or in a court of Justice. Otherwise, it is just left against right. It was obvious from the failed impeachment that the Democrats wanted FP Trump out of the way, so to speak, so such a statement by them is hardly surprising.

Are you sure? He might have become one of the Democrats' best assets, as he puts off loads of moderate Republicans and independent voters - as it has been demonstrated in the recent elections for congress.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

He gave a bad impression of the USA on the world stage to say he was the POTUS. He received a great deal of airtime worldwide and was totally erratic.

 

He was corrupt, a liar, misogynist,  an egotistical maniac as well as a sociopath and not fit for office.

 

His choices of underlings were driven by nepotism and the USA ne spome eds to leave this sorry episode behind.

 

He was no statesman, a danger to the US and those around him and he was totally a loose cannon.

Ah, but he didn't start any wars, did he, so not a threat to world peace, was he!

 

The only thing I take away from the committee is that they must be terrified of Trump coming back in 2024 to go to such lengths to stop him standing.

I don't want Trump to stand again either, but that's because he would likely just get the Dems re elected to POTUS.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Tug said:

Hopefully trumps term has exposed the weaknesses in our system so they can be fixed so this doesn’t happen again imo mr trump went far beyond just being a bad president he needs to be held accountable come what may if it causes violence so be it he cannot be allowed to hold office or break the law lock that fraud up!

What you are proposing is a undemocratic IMO. Short of being convicted of a crime ( and no guarantee that will happen ), what would you suggest as a way to prevent him from standing again that is constitutional?

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

A damning report based on testimony of predominantly republican witnesses, Trump staff, attorneys, supporters and family. ALL figured❗

A damning report driven by the bias of an effectively partisan (D) committee, which did not fully investigate all of the relevant events of J6. They were totally consumed in trying to damage Trump himself.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, swm59nj said:

Hopefully the GOP will not allow him to run for President.  

Not wanting another Democrat POTUS in '24 I agree. The problem then is that he might stand as an independent and take enough votes to allow the Dems to win again.

[Eric Loh]

He should be banned but his toxic legacy will remain. He has validated extreme right politics and party nativism. Trump’s acolytes and his fanatical base will dictate power in congress. Not only he be banned but his acolytes must be voted out of power so that the Republican Party can be released from the hold of Trump . 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

A damning report driven by the bias of an effectively partisan (D) committee, which did not fully investigate all of the relevant events of J6. They were totally consumed in trying to damage Trump himself.

Cheney probably hates Trump more than the Democrats, IMO. Good to see her gone from Congress.

[candide]

56 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

Spot on!