January 6 committee releases final report, says Trump should be barred from office

[Saanim]

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

When has the Capitol been stormed and invaded before by insurrectionists? And it wasn't just about trespass, was it. They attempted to put a halt to the Constitutionally sanctioned transfer of power due to a false narrative promoted by a certain loser.

It seems that you did not read properly my comment. I did not write about "the Capitol" but "Such insurgency or even a parliament storming sometimes happens". Just yesterday something like that happened in Brasilia.  And many times elsewhere, e.g. in Kiew... 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Saanim said:

It seems that you did not read properly my comment. I did not write about "the Capitol" but "Such insurgency or even a parliament storming sometimes happens". Just yesterday something like that happened in Brasilia.  And many times elsewhere, e.g. in Kiew...  

Gee. Odd how you didn't quote this part of what you wrote "  There are many other cases anywhere, however, they are not always classified so serious... "

I know it's against the rules for others to misleadingly cut a member's quote. Not sure how the rules apply to a member misleadingly editing their own.

[Saanim]

When you do not have an argument you try to deflect to anything. Then, any discussion with you is senseless.  

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9 hours ago, Saanim said:

When you do not have an argument you try to deflect to anything. Then, any discussion with you is senseless.  

Citing the words in your own post is deflecting? It is to laugh.

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

9 hours ago, candide said:

The way you present it is misleading.  His point is that Congress has no power to recommend prosecution, not that what is in the report is not accurate.

I have no doubt it may be an interesting debate subject among Constitutional scholars. Has he submitted the case to the supreme court or is it just

Try to spin it any way you want...it's a verbatim quote.

[Pattaya Spotter]

9 hours ago, candide said:

Any written source?

Verbal sources don't meet your high standards ????????????????

[vandeventer]

On 12/24/2022 at 7:08 AM, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

Yes, they have everyone's interest at heart. We need Trump more now than ever before!!! Make America strong again.

[candide]

6 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Try to spin it any way you want...it's a verbatim quote.

A quote may be ambiguous without knowing the perspective and context. So what was your point exactly? What did he mean according to you? 

[candide]

6 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Verbal sources don't meet your high standards ????????????????

Written sources can be quickly read and easily quoted

[Rimmer]

An emoji troll post and reply have been removed.

Please understand this is not Line, whatsup or Twitter we actually use words to discuss.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Yes, they have everyone's interest at heart. We need Trump more now than ever before!!! Make America strong again.

Strong enough to lead NATO and confront Russia?  Thanks to Biden we're already there.

[vandeventer]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Strong enough to lead NATO and confront Russia?  Thanks to Biden we're already there.

Really, and where is that???

[Eric Loh]

7 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Yes, they have everyone's interest at heart. We need Trump more now than ever before!!! Make America strong again.

How so mate. America was not even strong under Trump. He was impeached for putting national security in peril for his own personal gain. He alienated allies and cozied up to dictators. Started trade wars to distract the public and manage the pandemic poorly. Look beyond him if you want America to be strong again. 

[nauseus]

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

How so mate. America was not even strong under Trump. He was impeached for putting national security in peril for his own personal gain. He alienated allies and cozied up to dictators. Started trade wars to distract the public and manage the pandemic poorly. Look beyond him if you want America to be strong again. 

Rubbish as usual.

[Phoenix Rising]

49 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Really, and where is that???

Preventing a Russian victory in Ukraine. If trump had been in charge (well, as much "in charge" one can be from a golf course) Ukraine would already have been under Russian control. Simple really.

[Phoenix Rising]

25 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Rubbish as usual.

Wow, you sure have a knack for convincing arguments!

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

One day you will see the truth and it will be sooner than later as the house is digging into Biden and his family of crime. Tell me all you democrat facts in a months time I'm all ears.

As an independent I find you labeling me a democrat hilarious. Where did my post say the Dems were doing well.  I stated that:

 

"Between the Democrats and republicans the US is going to hell in a hand basket right now.  looks like an internal civil war is occurring within both parties".

[ozimoron]

28 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Rubbish as usual.

Unless you have an argument or a point to make then this has to fit the description of trolling.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

As an independent I find you labeling me a democrat hilarious. Where did my post say the Dems were doing well.  I stated that:

 

"Between the Democrats and republicans the US is going to hell in a hand basket right now.  looks like an internal civil war is occurring within both parties".

Being Independent just means you can't make up your mind. At some point you have to get off the fence.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

Being Independent just means you can't make up your mind. At some point you have to get off the fence.

No it means you vote for the party that you feel has the best policies at the time and the one at the time that you have more trust in. At least that's what it means in my book.

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Being Independent just means you can't make up your mind. At some point you have to get off the fence.

Why, are there only 2 parties and 2 people to choose from during an election?

[ozimoron]

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Why, are there only 2 parties and 2 people to choose from during an election?

Effectively, yes. In the US any third party is nothing other than a spoiler. Until they introduce ranked choice aka preferential voting it will always be thus. It's one of several major shortcomings in the US electoral system. UK too.

[vandeventer]

25 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

As an independent I find you labeling me a democrat hilarious. Where did my post say the Dems were doing well.  I stated that:

 

"Between the Democrats and republicans the US is going to hell in a hand basket right now.  looks like an internal civil war is occurring within both parties".

Sorry about calling you democrat, I didn't know you were a Independent and yes the country is going to hell in many ways.

[ThailandRyan]

Trumps followers in the GOP are finding themselves in a world of hurt as well for their roles in the insurrection/coup attempt. Here is Ron Johnson who claims he had no role except as a courier between Trump and Pence as far as the fake electorate issues go.....

 

'Dumb': GOP's Ron Johnson humiliated over nonsensical coup claim (msn.com)

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and replies have been removed.  Please remember this topic is about this:

 

January 6 committee releases final report, says Trump should be barred from office

[nauseus]

17 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Trumps followers in the GOP are finding themselves in a world of hurt as well for their roles in the insurrection/coup attempt. Here is Ron Johnson who claims he had no role except as a courier between Trump and Pence as far as the fake electorate issues go.....

 

'Dumb': GOP's Ron Johnson humiliated over nonsensical coup claim (msn.com)

What is dumb is posting this link, which seems to open a different series of off-topic garbage videos each (waste of) time. 

[ThailandRyan]

This is exactly why Trump should not be allowed to run again for office and should be barred. The last sentence is in my view the death knell for Trump as far as his inciting the insurrection.

 

Judge Finds Jan. 6 Defendant ‘Followed Then-President Trump’s Instructions’ to Breach the U.S. Capitol (msn.com)

 

Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly’s ruling found that MacAndrew “followed then-President Trump’s instructions, which were in line with her stated desires.”

 

According to the ruling, MacAndrew was found guilty of “(1) Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(1); (2) Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(2); (3) Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building, in violation of 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(D); and (4) Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building, in violation of 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G).”

 

While the guilty verdict against MacAndrew is not surprising, Kollar-Kotelly’s explicit tying of then President Donald Trump to her actions that day is notable.

[ThailandRyan]

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What is dumb is posting this link, which seems to open a different series of off-topic garbage videos each (waste of) time. 

So your offended that Trumps actions are causing others issues.  Why?  I mean the first video is the one I posted about, but the 2nd one also goes to show his hatred for others and why he should be barred from ever holding office again.

 

Far from off-topic.

[nauseus]

35 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So your offended that Trumps actions are causing others issues.  Why?  I mean the first video is the one I posted about, but the 2nd one also goes to show his hatred for others and why he should be barred from ever holding office again.

 

Far from off-topic.

The first video conveniently has the relevant question cut off.

 

The 2nd one doesn't mention Trump.

 

Boring as ever.

 

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The first video conveniently has the relevant question cut off.

 

The 2nd one doesn't mention Trump.

 

Boring as ever.

 

The final report on 6th Jan is not just about Trump