registering a car i own but ex girl refuses to sign papers and hand over blue book

[pleple62]

hi all i own the car and have sale receipt from dealer (second hand), 

have been fed the wrong information when i bought the car i ended up registering it in my girls name now we have parted ways she refuses to sign it over and give blue book, whats my options, any help appreciated

 

[nigelforbes]

Not many, I would guess she will argue it was a gift and the fact it was registered in her name supports that. You could try going to a lawyer and threatening her with court but the downsides to this are that the lawyer fees may be  expensive and there's no guarantee you will win, even if you can prove the money used to buy the car came from your account. Plus, she may not scare easily so this is a major risk. The other aspect is that this is a civil matter and the wait time to get to court will be long. Sorry I can't think of better news to give you.

[Salerno]

As above ^

 

Perhaps the best option open to you for a favourable/speedy solution is bribery (or extortion depending on how you look at it) - how much will it cost for her to hand over the blue book and get it transferred into your name ????‍♂️

[scubascuba3]

How was the car put in her name? your English name goes in the blue book.

 

She could claim you've stolen the car. You'll need to pay her off

[pleple62]

cheers nigel,,

that's an angle i not think,

yes , i don't think like a thai after many years,

but surely if the sales receipt i have in my name and did come from my account in thailand , the fact i can say it was not a gift, is reason enough,

again most likely the thai police will favour the thai and again i may get misinformed on process, and the confusion starts all, over 

i believe the car is now unregistered, i have possession and keys to the car its worth 190000 thb

[pleple62]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

How was the car put in her name? your English name goes in the blue book.

 

She could claim you've stolen the car. You'll need to pay her off

 

[nigelforbes]

2 minutes ago, pleple62 said:

cheers nigel,,

that's an angle i not think,

yes , i don't think like a thai after many years,

but surely if the sales receipt i have in my name and did come from my account in thailand , the fact i can say it was not a gift, is reason enough,

again most likely the thai police will favour the thai and again i may get misinformed on process, and the confusion starts all, over 

i believe the car is now unregistered, i have possession and keys to the car its worth 190000 thb

I think you are on shaky ground with this plus the value of the vehicle is quite low so legal fees will potentially eat a good chunk of that. I like poster @salerno idea above, bribe/negotiate/threaten/extort, ask her how much she wants to sign it over but decide how much it's worth to you first. I doubt the police will be too interested in this, unless you want to incentivize them first, which will be even more expensive, chances are they will tell you to go see a lawyer.

 

I think if it was me and without knowing the personalities involved, I might try the direct negotiated settlement approach first. If that doesn't produce satisfactory results I might pay a lawyer  say 10k (max) to write a letter to your girlfriend threatening legal action. If that doesn't work, be prepared to walk away from it all or use the car in her name indefinitely and let her take any legal action against you.

[CharlieH]

Off topic and inflammatory  post removed.

[2baht]

Resign yourself to the fact that you are a kind man and she really likes the vehicle!

[pleple62]

omg, i'm not a thief, this is what i got with car, we went to inspection station w,they would not look at it as i did not have a certificate of residency, , explained that i owned 2 condos in thailand, nope wouldn't have it, as i was on tourist visa, so had to get in her name as i was told, then we went to locality office had all chassis and motor numbers recorded, and so it went to her name,

im just checking with the sales lady if she first put in my name as everyone in this part of BKK nonthaburi dont speak english and i stand out like dogs proverbials, on the back foot already

[Hummin]

No one should expect anything after a break up, if you did put land, house and wehicles in her name without being married before. Even then ,,,,,,

[pleple62]

ok ok i get the gist, pay off or let it go , wwwooohhhooooooooo

aloha

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, pleple62 said:

omg, i'm not a thief, this is what i got with car, we went to inspection station w,they would not look at it as i did not have a certificate of residency, , explained that i owned 2 condos in thailand, nope wouldn't have it, as i was on tourist visa, so had to get in her name as i was told, then we went to locality office had all chassis and motor numbers recorded, and so it went to her name,

im just checking with the sales lady if she first put in my name as everyone in this part of BKK nonthaburi dont speak english and i stand out like dogs proverbials, on the back foot already

Just lazy, same as Honda Big Wing Phitsanulok did not want to put in my name because it was easier to put in my gf name ????

 

It have nothing to do with your visa. I bought my bikes and car on exemption 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Hummin

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, pleple62 said:

yeah lots of different views

 

5 minutes ago, pleple62 said:

ok ok i get the gist, pay off or let it go , wwwooohhhooooooooo

aloha

You have to try to make a deal with her if you want it back. 

[steven100]

unfortunately you've been taken for a ride '  they all knew very well why she wanted the car in her name.  it happens all the time to farangs here.  Just forget it and move on.  Not much you can do anyway.

[Will27]

1 hour ago, nigelforbes said:

I think you are on shaky ground with this plus the value of the vehicle is quite low so legal fees will potentially eat a good chunk of that. I like poster @salerno idea above, bribe/negotiate/threaten/extort, ask her how much she wants to sign it over but decide how much it's worth to you first. I doubt the police will be too interested in this, unless you want to incentivize them first, which will be even more expensive, chances are they will tell you to go see a lawyer.

 

I think if it was me and without knowing the personalities involved, I might try the direct negotiated settlement approach first. If that doesn't produce satisfactory results I might pay a lawyer  say 10k (max) to write a letter to your girlfriend threatening legal action. If that doesn't work, be prepared to walk away from it all or use the car in her name indefinitely and let her take any legal action against you.

OP has said the car is worth 20 000 and you suggest he could pay a lawyer up to 10 000 Baht to write a letter.

Sorry, that's just madness.

 

Edit* Sorry, just noticed OP said 190 000.

My bad.

 

OP should just walk away and learn by his mistake.

Edited December 28, 2022 by Will27

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, pleple62 said:

but surely if the sales receipt i have in my name and did come from my account in thailand , the fact i can say it was not a gift, is reason enough,

again most likely the thai police will favour the thai and again i may get misinformed on process, and the confusion starts all, over

I guess I have also somewhere the receipt for the gold chain which I bought. I gave it to my Thai girlfriend years ago.

I guess if I split up with her, then she has to give it back to me. She only takes care of it. After all, I paid for it.

 

But obviously the Thai police will not understand this, they hate farangs. It's always the same it this country. /sarcasm off

[Salerno]

6 minutes ago, Will27 said:

OP has said the car is worth 20 000

Rounding up and dropping a 0?

 

1 hour ago, pleple62 said:

its worth 190000 thb

 

[nigelforbes]

6 minutes ago, Will27 said:

OP has said the car is worth 20 000 and you suggest he could pay a lawyer up to 10 000 Baht to write a letter.

Sorry, that's just madness.

 

OP should just walk away and learn by his mistake.

In my version of ASEAN NOW the OP said it was worth 190,000, perhaps you're using the European version, dunno.

[Will27]

29 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

In my version of ASEAN NOW the OP said it was worth 190,000, perhaps you're using the European version, dunno.

Oops, sorry mate.

Time for a coffee I think.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by Will27

[pleple62]

18 minutes ago, Will27 said:

OP has said the car is worth 20 000 and you suggest he could pay a lawyer up to 10 000 Baht to write a letter.

Sorry, that's just madness.

 

OP should just walk away and learn by his mistake.

naaa its worth 190000 thb 40000 on the clock

[Will27]

1 minute ago, pleple62 said:

naaa its worth 190000 thb 40000 on the clock

I don't like your chances but good luck.

[pleple62]

ok do they have they any smash up derbys in bkk

where i can win money

that's the best option here bang bang smash smash win win

[Peterw42]

2 hours ago, pleple62 said:

most likely the thai police will favour the thai

The Thai police will favor whoever is recorded as the owner in the blue book, Thai or foreigner.

 

[Henryford]

The owner of the car is the one whose name is in the blue book.

[gargamon]

2 hours ago, pleple62 said:

when i bought the car i ended up registering it in my girls name

Sorry, you do not own the car. She does. Expensive mistake. Nothing you can do now except maybe offer some cash for her to sign it over. Good luck.

[Dirty Munger]

2 hours ago, pleple62 said:

whats my options

Buy another car?

[nigelforbes]

Just now, Dirty Munger said:

Buy another car?

And another girfriend.

[Dirty Munger]

2 hours ago, pleple62 said:

omg, i'm not a thief, this is what i got with car, we went to inspection station w,they would not look at it as i did not have a certificate of residency, , explained that i owned 2 condos in thailand, nope wouldn't have it, as i was on tourist visa, so had to get in her name as i was told, then we went to locality office had all chassis and motor numbers recorded, and so it went to her name,

im just checking with the sales lady if she first put in my name as everyone in this part of BKK nonthaburi dont speak english and i stand out like dogs proverbials, on the back foot already

I’ve done the translation for you :

 

Owner : Nok

Address : White Buffalo Bar,Pattaya

 

You’re screwed!

[pleple62]

3 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

And another girfriend.

back to a euro girl these days