Pitbull attack: Mad dog attacks mum, son comes to rescue, dragged into cage and has intestines ripped out

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Picture: Siam Rath

 

Siam Rath reported on a savage attack by a family's pet Pitbull dog in Nakhon Ratchasima, NE Thailand.

 

It resulted in the death of a former jockey who had tried to save his mother from attack.

 

The beast dragged him into its cage and ripped out his intestines. He died from blood loss in hospital.

 

There had been many warnings about the dog after it attacked more than ten people over the years, but it had never turned on the family....until now.

 

It is now being looked after by a kind (Jai Bun) other person.

 

Reporters from Siam Rath were at Wat Thung Sawang in Muang district of Korat for the funeral of former horse racing jockey Therdpong or "Neung", aged 47.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

They said it was a very sad occasion after he had been attacked by the family's Pitbull called Bobby.

 

His mother Duangsuree, 68, said they got the dog from a relative as a puppy and he was now 7-8 years old.

It was kept in a cage and allowed to run free in an area out back of the house on occasions.

 

In the past it had bitten more than ten people who they knew or who were passing and they had to pay compensation and hospital fees.

 

On February 3rd she had had a shower and was about to watch TV but was having problems seeing the buttons so she went out back to call Neung to help without realizing the dog was out of its cage.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

It confronted her and grabbed her arm. Smelling blood the situation got worse and her son came to help.

She realised later that her son had died. She said she would be dead but for him.

 

Mana, 51, Duangsuree's brother who helped to look after the dog when the family were away said that Bobby was referred to as the "Masked Angel" due to its facial markings.

 

While he accepted it had attacked people outside the family before it had never gone for them. He thought it had gone berserk after smelling something unusual.

 

He explained that Duangsuree worked abroad and only came to the family home once or twice a year.

 

The dog had grabbed her arm. Neung tried and succeeded in prising the jaws off his mother's arm and implored those present to take her to hospital while he dealt with the dog.

 

Neung raised a stick to beat the dog to teach him a lesson but this only made matters worse. The dog went for his raised arm then dragged him into its cage where it bit him all over his body.

 

In particular it savaged his abdomen and ripped out his intestines. This despite Neung being a strong 95 kilo man.

 

Mana said he beat the dog with a stick and he eventually stopped the frenzied attack and was locked up in the cage.

 

Neung died from blood loss in the hospital.

 

Phatsorn, Mana's wife, arranged for the dog to be looked after by kind people who offered to help.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

ASEAN NOW notes that there have been many reported attacks in Thailand by Pitbull Terriers in the last year or so.

 

The animals have never been euthanized according to our reports.

 

For perspective, in England this century there have been 3-4 fatal dog attacks per year, according to Wikipedia.

 

Many are small children who are family members where pet dogs are kept.

 

All manner of dog breeds are involved though many are Pitbulls of various kinds.

 

In the great majority of cases the dogs involved are reported as having been euthanized by the authorities.

 

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[Captain Monday]

For attacking 10 people. the beast should have been destroyed years ago.  There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners. When an attack occurs  people who keep a dangerous dog should be punished as if they committed the assault themselves. Prosecuted for grievous bodily

injury with a deadly weapon, murder, or attempted murder as appropriate.

[Andre0720]

They fear ghosts, as innocuous as they are.

But they will keep Pit Bulls, known for killing and maiming time and time again...

Oh well. RIP.

[Tropicalevo]

☹️

[Andre0720]

4 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

For attacking 10 people. the beast should have been destroyed years ago.  There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners. When an attack occurs  people who keep a dangerous dog should be punished as if they committed the assault themselves. Prosecuted for grievous bodily

injury with a deadly weapon, murder, or attempted murder as appropriate.

"There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners."

As long as such narratives are still used, the tragedies will keep on happening.

No such thing as a bad dog, then one would have to explain why, for example, Pit Bulls could not be used by police, who consider them too dangerous and uncontrollable to be of any use.

And this appears to suggest that poodles and Pit Bulls, well, they are all dogs, same family of animals.

As if a poodle raised by a bad owner would start killing the neighbors and owners as well.

 

[amexpat]

22 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners.

There sure are a lot of bad pit bull owners, then.

[Orinoco]

should be put down immediately.

and the dog.

[richard_smith237]

I’m sure someone will be able to find a link which shows a golden retriever biting ripping out the intestines  of its owner.... 

 

Pitbull lovers will come on here defending the indefensible with emotion masked under a very thin veil of  poorly executed and fundamentally flawed logic. 

 

IF you don’t believe these powerful PitBull breeds should be permitted you will be labelled a 'dog hater’ in an illogical attempt to overthrow your logic behind the imbalance of bias. 

 

The thread will go the way of all other Pitbull threads.... with two distinct camps: 

- I love my Pittie and you have no experience of the breed.

- My Pittie wouldn’t hurt a fly.

- You are bias against Pitbulls because of the media bias.

- If this were a Labrador ripping out the intestines of its owner it wouldn’t be news because its not a pittie.

- Its the owners fault.

- And there there is the old favourite, Pitbull is not a breed (we know, its a range of breeds - when we say PittBull dogs we mean dogs very powerful bitbull type breeds which have  history of being bread for their owner, aggression and fighting).

 

 

I have yet to see one single intelligent answer to justify an owner keeping Putbulls.

“I just love the breed” never comes up, owners try and justify some other trait such as loyalty etc... (but aren’t all dogs loyal ???... until they turn on you anyway).

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by metisdead
Extra spacing removed.

[NanLaew]

We had a dog and a bitch pair from puppies, rescued by the sister-in-law from the market where she worked as they had been abandoned. Chocolate brown and mostly labrador with no pit bull traits, we named them Tiger and Lilly. Both good looking, decent animals but since we already had three dogs on the compound as well as the soi dogs, my wife and I agreed that we should get these two spayed and neutered. The dog still would have a go at the odd passing stranger but after paying compensation to one old lady he bit three times, I suggested that maybe the neutering had made him more aggressive. I was told this sometimes happens; they either become docile or cranky. My brother-in-law made a decent 'hobble' which consisted of a short length of wood on a short chain hanging from his collar. This stopped him running and chasing people but of course it wasn't worn 24/7. While I was out of the country, he bit our two year-old son. Not severely but by all accounts he was going for our son's face when stopped. My wife called a number in Sakon Nakhon and a guy turned up next day in a red pickup and that was the last we saw of Tiger.

 

We like to think he's made a difference to someone's life in Vietnam.

Edited February 10, 2023 by NanLaew

[JonnyF]

Very sad.

 

However, the stupidity shown here is almost beyond belief. Keeping the dog in a cage, letting it roam free despite having a history of biting people, hitting it with a stick while it's hyped up to "teach it a lesson" (presumably not for the first time).

 

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own dogs, let alone powerful ones. Hitting PitBulls to "teach it a lesson" is incredibly stupid. For a start they have a high pain threshold so it's a waste of time, but more importantly a verbal telling off will get much better results, since they hate being told off by their owner. After a verbal telling off mine will sulk for hours, sit with his back to us, refuse food etc. until you show him that he is forgiven. He very rarely repeats any behaviour that led to the telling off. My previous Staffordshire Bull Terriers were the same, they'd lie on the floor shaking if you raised your voice to them. Incredibly sensitive to a telling off by the owner, absolutely no need to hit them.

 

Disciplining PitBulls with a stick is a bit like slapping a bull on the backside and complaining when you get kicked into next week. Clueless.

[Captain Monday]

16 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

"There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners."

As long as such narratives are still used, the tragedies will keep on happening.

No such thing as a bad dog, then one would have to explain why, for example, Pit Bulls could not be used by police, who consider them too dangerous and uncontrollable to be of any use.

And this appears to suggest that poodles and Pit Bulls, well, they are all dogs, same family of animals.

As if a poodle raised by a bad owner would start killing the neighbors and owners as well.

 

A standard poodle is a powerful animal. Toy poos and pomeranians can be very aggressive and I see people indulge them because they can't really hurt anybody maybe a child. You never seem to hear about Golden Retrievers etc. suddenly turn against their owners. It is always a pitbull.

 

I don't have the answer but where I stay in US if I go out on a walk 50 percent plus of the dogs you see now are pitbulls. When I was a kid you hardly saw one. 

[JonnyF]

22 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

No such thing as a bad dog, then one would have to explain why, for example, Pit Bulls could not be used by police, who consider them too dangerous and uncontrollable to be of any use.

 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

You never seem to hear about Golden Retrievers etc. suddenly turn against their owners. It is always a pitbull.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

 

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

For attacking 10 people. the beast should have been destroyed years ago.  There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners.

When a ‘dog requires dedicated, skilled and experienced ownership to train it well’  it becomes an ever present danger to society when it cannot receive the skilled attention it needs... When poorly trained normal human behaviour can trigger such animals into their base instinct to defend and attack, the size and power means this response has devastating consequences. 

 

A Labrador, Golden retriever or Spaniel is not quite the same when its owners are not as dedicated in it training.... their instinct is not to rip people apart. 

 

2 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

When an attack occurs  people who keep a dangerous dog should be punished as if they committed the assault themselves. Prosecuted for grievous bodily injury with a deadly weapon, murder, or attempted murder as appropriate.

There are breeds which are not pets - and they should either be banned, or only owned under very specific licence circumstances,  those who own them ‘should’ need a licence.

- Put 1,000,000 Baht in an escrow account - any dog which bites / attacks someone the dog is destroyed and the victim gets the money. 

 

How many ‘dog lovers’ would own their beloved 'Pittie’ then??  ‘y’know, the harmless ones that love kids, wouldn’t hurt a fly and would just lick you...  yet are great guard dogs and would rip apart any intruder !!!... (because there is no contradiction there, huh !!!) ....

 

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

 

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

 

Pit bull lover alert!!!

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

We had a dog and a bitch pair from puppies, rescued by the sister-in-law from the market where she worked as they had been abandoned. Chocolate brown and mostly labrador with no pit bull traits, we named them Tiger and Lilly. Both good looking, decent animals but since we already had three dogs on the compound as well as the soi dogs, my wife and I agreed that we should get these two spayed and neutered. The dog still would have a go at the odd passing stranger but after paying compensation to one old lady he bit three times, I suggested that maybe the neutering had made him more aggressive. I was told this sometimes happens; they either become docile or cranky. My brother-in-law made a decent 'hobble' which consisted of a short length of wood on a short chain hanging from his collar. This stopped him running and chasing people but of course it wasn't worn 24/7. While I was out of the country, he bit our two year-old son. Not severely but by all accounts he was going for our son's face when stopped. My wife called a number in Sakon Nakhon and a guy turned up next day in a red pickup and that was the last we saw of Tiger.

Fair enough.... Lucky it wasn’t your sons face...  the warning signs were there early enough and 20/20 hindsight suggest you should have ridded yourself of the dog at the first sign of agression especially with children around (or children in the neighbourhood). 

 

Anyone else reading this thread - If you have a dog that has shown any sign of aggression to any human, the warning sign is there - If you have small children, making the right decision today can make a difference as to how your child looks at themselves in the mirror in future. 

 

 

Question here - You called a dog ’Tiger’.....  Why is it never the dogs called ‘bugsy or Tinker’ that attack people ?

 

8 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

We like to think he's made a difference to someone's life in Vietnam.

With a little salt, pepper and chilli perhaps.... 

 

[Captain Monday]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

 

There is always one! See above again what I said about bad owners. Who leaves a baby unattended where an animal can get to it?

[richard_smith237]

 

48 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners.

So these dogs would be perfectly well behaved if they had no owners ?????

 

Just left in the wild to their own devices they’d be loving and caring animals there would be no attacks on adults or children ????.... Its is the bad owners which ‘make’ these dogs attack people ????

 

OR... are good owners an absolute must to ensure those aggressive traits in these dogs are ‘trained out’ from their behaviour.

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Pit bull lover alert!!!

Just providing some facts (along with links) to correct the myths so often prevalent in such threads. 

 

I love all dogs, not just PitBulls. That's why I have 7, one of which is a PitBull. But yes, he's my favourite, that's why he gets the Coco Chanel bed ????

 

[jvs]

24 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

So this dog is just a single purpose detection dog,nothing special.

Any dog with high drive can be taught this,it is just a game for the dog.

If only people who have a high drive dog of any breed would give it enough attention(work) then there would be a lot less trouble with aggression.

There is also the thought that an aggressive dog would make a good PSD,

not so.Many aggressive dogs are just scared.

The dog who killed his owner in this case should have been disposed of

after his first bite incident.

Now he killed his owner,once a dog is in that state of mind there is no

stopping it.

According to the op the owner was a big guy,95 kilo but i bet he was just very obese and not fit to fight of his dog.

Now a kind person is taking care of it?

Some people are very slow learners.

Yes we have a Bully who looks like a pitbull but genetically he is totally different.

 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by jvs

[proton]

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So these dogs would be perfectly well behaved if they had no owners ?????

 

Just left in the wild to their own devices they’d be loving and caring animals there would be no attacks on adults or children ????.... Its is the bad owners which ‘make’ these dogs attack people ????

 

OR... are good owners an absolute must to ensure those aggressive traits in these dogs are ‘trained out’ from their behaviour.

 

 

 

Steady on that's too logical for the Pittie apologists! As with all dogs if by nature they are so harmless why do they have to be trained at all? you don't have to do it with cats. No amount of training can over come a Pitt Bulls nature- they were bred for violet fighting, not to be the babies nanny. Only in Thailand would people be wondering what to do with a killer dog and still have it after it ripped their family members guts out. 

[persimmon]

It`s amazing how Thais love their dogs ( and other animals ) - it`s one of the features I find very endearing . When taken to extremes , though , it makes no sense at all .

I`m not a dog lover , the reason being that they ( mostly ) are large , powerful carnivores that could easily kill or inflict serious injury , if they wanted too . Why keep an animal like that as a pet ?

[GammaGlobulin]

43 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

We had a dog and a bitch pair from puppies, rescued by the sister-in-law from the market where she worked as they had been abandoned. Chocolate brown and mostly labrador with no pit bull traits, we named them Tiger and Lilly. Both good looking, decent animals but since we already had three dogs on the compound as well as the soi dogs, my wife and I agreed that we should get these two spayed and neutered. The dog still would have a go at the odd passing stranger but after paying compensation to one old lady he bit three times, I suggested that maybe the neutering had made him more aggressive. I was told this sometimes happens; they either become docile or cranky. My brother-in-law made a decent 'hobble' which consisted of a short length of wood on a short chain hanging from his collar. This stopped him running and chasing people but of course it wasn't worn 24/7. While I was out of the country, he bit our two year-old son. Not severely but by all accounts he was going for our son's face when stopped. My wife called a number in Sakon Nakhon and a guy turned up next day in a red pickup and that was the last we saw of Tiger.

 

We like to think he's made a difference to someone's life in Vietnam.

Gou Rou 

Xiang Rou 

 

Pit Bulls are delicious! 

 

 

[Andre0720]

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Oh, congratulations.

You searched long enough to find the exception that confirms the rule...

[Captain Monday]

52 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So these dogs would be perfectly well behaved if they had no owners ?????

 

Just left in the wild to their own devices they’d be loving and caring animals there would be no attacks on adults or children ????.... Its is the bad owners which ‘make’ these dogs attack people ????

 

OR... are good owners an absolute must to ensure those aggressive traits in these dogs are ‘trained out’ from their behaviour.

 

 

 

Well, any dogs with out owners revert to their non pet/animalistic nature as can be seen in any Soi, a danger.  Native American reservations have the same social problem with people tolerating and feeding them, then every once in while a somebody is killed or mauled.

 

The owners are "bad" because they want an aggressive and dangerous animal, then don't control it or take responsibility for their livestock.  You see them in my country covered in tatoos being dragged around by a pitbull or two on  heavy chains. "Look how tough I am". 

 

Pitbulls are obviously dangerous and bred for aggression, I just don't blame the dog for being a vicious animal same as I would not blame a tiger for coming out of the jungle and taking some livestock.

 

Should they be banned, yes. How to do that in a practical way?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by Captain Monday

[Captain Monday]

34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Just providing some facts (along with links) to correct the myths so often prevalent in such threads. 

 

I love all dogs, not just PitBulls. That's why I have 7, one of which is a PitBull. But yes, he's my favourite, that's why he gets the Coco Chanel bed ????

 

 

Everything is great until it bites your cousins face off.

[JonnyF]

16 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Oh, congratulations.

You searched long enough to find the exception that confirms the rule...

How many examples do you need?

 

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

How many ‘dog lovers’ would own their beloved 'Pittie’ then??  ‘y’know, the harmless ones that love kids, wouldn’t hurt a fly and would just lick you...  yet are great guard dogs and would rip apart any intruder !!!... (because there is no contradiction there, huh !!!) ....

There's one near where I walk in the mornings.

Runs out and slams against the fence every time I go past frothing and rattling the bars in a complete out-of-control frenzy. If it got out it would try to kill me, which is why I always carry a steel baton with me.

 

All dogs that try to attack passers by should be killed.

No matter what breed or size.

Edited February 10, 2023 by BritManToo

[BostonRob2]

Wikipedia also mentions the custodial sentences handed out to dog owners whose pets attack. Under the Dangerous Dogs Act in the UK that came in in the 1990s many people have been jailed, some for as long as ten years.

 

Obviously in this case the family are suffering but relatives and carers of this dog had many warnings. There should also be a law that allows for them to be jailed. 

 

Thailand is far, far too lenient when it comes to dogs. People face jail for taking the matter of strays causing annoyance into their own hands. 

 

This has to change for the protection of innocent family members and the wider public.

 

People who say carte blanche that Thais have no responsibility for the care of dogs are mostly Thai bashing, however. Have they ever been to a dog show in Thailand and seen the dedication that people have? I honestly think that most responsible Thai dog owners would welcome changes in the law to stop the bad apple owners who raise dangerous dogs and/or mistreat them.

 

For starters the dog in this story should be euthanized - but is that even a legal option given the bias to dogs in this country? I do wonder.

 

I'm the opposite of a dog lover but I translate these stories in good faith, trying to be fair to the original source and adding some bits where necessary.

 

Frankly this one beggared belief. 

 

Rooster

[phetphet]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

For attacking 10 people. the beast should have been destroyed years ago.  There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners. When an attack occurs  people who keep a dangerous dog should be punished as if they committed the assault themselves. Prosecuted for grievous bodily

injury with a deadly weapon, murder, or attempted murder as appropriate.

Even now, it still hasn't been put down. Only sent  to be look after by "kind people".