Tottenham condemn 'utterly reprehensible' racist abuse aimed at forward Son Heung-min

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Tottenham have called for social media companies to take action after Son Heung-min was subjected to "utterly reprehensible" racist abuse online.

The abuse occurred during Sunday's 2-0 Premier League victory over West Ham, during which substitute Son scored Spurs' second goal.

 

Tottenham posted on Twitter saying they had reported the abuse towards Son.

"We stand with Sonny and once again call on the social media companies and authorities to take action," they said.

[proton]

All that knee taking has not worked then ????

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, proton said:

All that knee taking has not worked then ????

At least it makes a point.  If it winds up the racists, so be it.  If good people do nothing, nothing will change.

[proton]

15 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

At least it makes a point.  If it winds up the racists, so be it.  If good people do nothing, nothing will change.

Looks like nothing has, this virtue signalling nonsense does not wind anyone up, they just laugh at it

[brewsterbudgen]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

Looks like nothing has, this virtue signalling nonsense does not wind anyone up, they just laugh at it

Perhaps, and they're never going convert the true racists and bigots.  But the point is still made.  

[mrbojangles]

33 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

At least it makes a point.  If it winds up the racists, so be it.  If good people do nothing, nothing will change.

I think most people are for kicking racism out. Not a single soul ever objected to players wearing "kick it out" badges etc. With the knee bending it's the association to BLM that get's most people's backs up. They should choose any alternative method to make the case.

[JonnyF]

14 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Perhaps, and they're never going convert the true racists and bigots.  But the point is still made.  

Objecting to taking the knee was nothing to do with racists and bigots.

 

Nobody ever objected to the "kick it out" campaign. That was never booed. People objected to the corrupt, racist, marxist BLM movement being openly supported. People objected to the hypocrisy of political statements being allowed as long as they were deemed to be 'correct' i.e. on the extreme left. People objected to mostly uneducated footballers like the plank Gareth Southgate demonstrating their lack of education by claming to 'educate' others on such a mucky organization. People objected being preached to when they just came to watch a game of football.

 

Unfortunately there are still a very tiny minority of football fans that are racist. Taking the knee to BLM does nothing to address this issue. It's virtue signalling by overpaid young athletes, most of which have very limited education on the issues about which they claim to support.

 

[proton]

25 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

I think most people are for kicking racism out. Not a single soul ever objected to players wearing "kick it out" badges etc. With the knee bending it's the association to BLM that get's most people's backs up. They should choose any alternative method to make the case.

It was funny at the world cup with the team grovelling on their knees, while African teams in the other half all stood up, pointless posturing. 

[Bkk Brian]

Racism in football has always been a huge problem, one which just gets worse. As with this incident, complaints are made to social media companies but nothing gets done. Its also not just social media but a whole host of cultural problems. Its impossible to focus just one aspect and miss the dozens of others that are contributing to football supporters (not all I know) acting out racism at matches.

 

English football is consumed by racism and hatred. Can the cycle be broken?

Wave of abuse directed at players on social media is part of a deep societal crisis but perhaps football can provide a solution

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/08/english-football-is-consumed-by-racism-and-hatred-can-the-cycle-be-broken

[xylophone]

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Racism in football has always been a huge problem, one which just gets worse. As with this incident, complaints are made to social media companies but nothing gets done. Its also not just social media but a whole host of cultural problems. Its impossible to focus just one aspect and miss the dozens of others that are contributing to football supporters (not all I know) acting out racism at matches.

 

English football is consumed by racism and hatred. Can the cycle be broken?

Wave of abuse directed at players on social media is part of a deep societal crisis but perhaps football can provide a solution

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/08/english-football-is-consumed-by-racism-and-hatred-can-the-cycle-be-broken

Yes, racism has been in football for as long as I can remember, even going back 60 years, although nowhere near what it is today, and I may add that IMO a lot of it is from lower class, mindless thugs, but how do you stop them from watching a game of football??

[Mac Mickmanus]

43 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Yes, racism has been in football for as long as I can remember, even going back 60 years, although nowhere near what it is today, and I may add that IMO a lot of it is from lower class, mindless thugs, but how do you stop them from watching a game of football??

Racism was quite common at football 60 years ago, although its quite non existent these days and this story is about online abuse with some people posting things online .

   I do think that a few idiots posting abuse online should just be ignored , rather than being headline news 

[brewsterbudgen]

3 hours ago, proton said:

It was funny at the world cup with the team grovelling on their knees, while African teams in the other half all stood up, pointless posturing. 

I agree it should be a personal choice - Wilfred Zaha never takes the knee.  However, I applaud those players who do so for their own reasons or beliefs, whether it's related to BLM or not.

 

Surely you admire Colin Kaepernick who started the whole thing off, even before George Floyd?

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Racism in football has always been a huge problem, one which just gets worse. As with this incident, complaints are made to social media companies but nothing gets done. Its also not just social media but a whole host of cultural problems. Its impossible to focus just one aspect and miss the dozens of others that are contributing to football supporters (not all I know) acting out racism at matches.

 

English football is consumed by racism and hatred. Can the cycle be broken?

Wave of abuse directed at players on social media is part of a deep societal crisis but perhaps football can provide a solution

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/08/english-football-is-consumed-by-racism-and-hatred-can-the-cycle-be-broken

It's not a huge problem at all. It's a very small minority of idiots. Of course The Guardian will massively exaggerate the problem, because it suits their agenda and their hatred/contempt for the working classes.

[Bkk Brian]

30 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's not a huge problem at all. It's a very small minority of idiots. Of course The Guardian will massively exaggerate the problem, because it suits their agenda and their hatred/contempt for the working classes.

Really, the Guardian has a hatred for the working class? Can you provide proof of that along with the exaggeration of it in football? 

 

Does the Sun also have that hatred when they report racism in football or perhaps the police? 

 

The news comes just days Brentford condemned racist abuse aimed at Ivan Toney on social media after Saturday's draw against Arsenal.

In a statement, the Bees said Toney had been subjected to a "barrage of abusive, racist direct messages" on Instagram.

Last month it was announced that racist football fans who troll players will be banned from matches in England and Wales for up to 10 years under Government plans.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21395586/brazil-soccer-racism-rule-points-deduction/

 

Unfortunately, we also saw the return of reports of racist and or homophobic chanting during at least three cup ties: Crystal Palace vs Millwall, Spurs vs Chelsea and Reading v Cardiff City. This disgusting behaviour will never be tolerated by those who truly love the game, and by most of society.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/dpp-max-hill-how-were-taking-action-against-racist-and-homophobic-football-chants

Edited February 20, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Really, the Guardian has a hatred for the working class? Can you provide proof of that along with the exaggeration of it in football? 

 

Does the Sun also have that hatred when they report racism in football or perhaps the police? 

 

The news comes just days Brentford condemned racist abuse aimed at Ivan Toney on social media after Saturday's draw against Arsenal.

In a statement, the Bees said Toney had been subjected to a "barrage of abusive, racist direct messages" on Instagram.

Last month it was announced that racist football fans who troll players will be banned from matches in England and Wales for up to 10 years under Government plans.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21395586/brazil-soccer-racism-rule-points-deduction/

 

Unfortunately, we also saw the return of reports of racist and or homophobic chanting during at least three cup ties: Crystal Palace vs Millwall, Spurs vs Chelsea and Reading v Cardiff City. This disgusting behaviour will never be tolerated by those who truly love the game, and by most of society.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/dpp-max-hill-how-were-taking-action-against-racist-and-homophobic-football-chants

Opposition fans have for many years sung songs claiming Chelsea are "rent boys" , its only recently been made an offence and that's why its been reported and those "who truly love the game " and go every week are not bothered by what oppo fans sins .

   Reading V Cardiff were fans singing anti  English/Welsh songs at each other  and the "always offended" people categorised it as racist chanting .

    Its just football fans singing songs to each other and non going people want to tell them what songs they should be singing .

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

Unfortunately, we also saw the return of reports of racist and or homophobic chanting during at least three cup ties: Crystal Palace vs Millwall, Spurs vs Chelsea and Reading v Cardiff City. This disgusting behaviour will never be tolerated by those who truly love the game, and by most of society.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/dpp-max-hill-how-were-taking-action-against-racist-and-homophobic-football-chants

Cardiff City supporters were told by a public announcement at a game to stop singing songs about the English , no doubt Reading fans were also singing songs about the Welsh .

   There was no investigation and no prosecution and no further action and Cardiff fans deny any wrongdoing and the report was made by just one steward

 

Cardiff City fans in the away end at the Madejski Stadium were shocked at the public address announcement during the Reading FA Cup clash

 

Cardiff City fans' leader expresses his dismay at Reading announcement and dismisses claims of racism and homophobia

 

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-reading-fa-cup-17632871

Edited February 20, 2023 by Mac Mickmanus

[Bkk Brian]

53 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Opposition fans have for many years sung songs claiming Chelsea are "rent boys" , its only recently been made an offence and that's why its been reported and those "who truly love the game " and go every week are not bothered by what oppo fans sins .

   Reading V Cardiff were fans singing anti  English/Welsh songs at each other  and the "always offended" people categorised it as racist chanting .

    Its just football fans singing songs to each other and non going people want to tell them what songs they should be singing .

You may want to read the post I was replying to and the accusations made against the Guardian. Besides its the view of the majority of British people:

 

Following the racist abuse hitting the headlines, seven in ten football fans in England (71%) now think that professional English football has a serious problem with racism, a rise of 17 percentage points since the opening stages of the tournament in June.

This represents a significant conversion among those who had previously acknowledged that racism existed in English football, but did not consider it to be serious: 36% previously had held this view, but this has now shrunk to 24%.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/sport/articles-reports/2021/07/22/belief-racism-serious-problem-english-football-sho

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You may want to read the post I was replying to and the accusations made against the Guardian. Besides its the view of the majority of British people:

 

Following the racist abuse hitting the headlines, seven in ten football fans in England (71%) now think that professional English football has a serious problem with racism, a rise of 17 percentage points since the opening stages of the tournament in June.

This represents a significant conversion among those who had previously acknowledged that racism existed in English football, but did not consider it to be serious: 36% previously had held this view, but this has now shrunk to 24%.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/sport/articles-reports/2021/07/22/belief-racism-serious-problem-english-football-sho

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening and English and Welsh fans singing songs to each other is regarded as racism .

   Asking people whether they think that there's racism in football ISNT proof that it exists .

  You think that racism exists in football , how many games did you go to last season and what did you witness or did you gain your opinion from false media reports?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening and English and Welsh fans singing songs to each other is regarded as racism .

   Asking people whether they think that there's racism in football ISNT proof that it exists .

  You think that racism exists in football , how many games did you go to last season and what did you witness or did you gain your opinion from false media reports?

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening

 

Feel free to substantiate your claim that there are numerous false newspaper reports of it happening

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening

 

Feel free to substantiate your claim that there are numerous false newspaper reports of it happening

 

 

I did above .

(My post above with the photo in )

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did above .

(My post above with the photo in )

You provided one link that in no way supports these claims:

 

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening

 

Your link is in reference to the a "Cardiff City fans' leader" who is denying claims made by Reading who are each investigating two incidents of alleged racist and homophobic abuse, with the Royals confirming after the game a match-day steward had reported two separate accounts of alleged 'discriminatory' abuse.

 

This is not a false newspaper report let alone numerous reports

Edited February 20, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

You provided one link that in no way supports these claims:

 

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening

 

Your link is in reference to the a "Cardiff City fans' leader" who is denying claims made by The Bluebirds and Reading who are each investigating two incidents of alleged racist and homophobic abuse, with the Royals confirming after the game a match-day steward had reported two separate accounts of alleged 'discriminatory' abuse.

 

This is not a false newspaper report let alone numerous reports

The game was from three years ago and no further action was taken , the "racist abuse" was a disgusting song about Welsh peoples alleged sexual relations with sheep and the Welsh sung a song back about English mens alleged sexual relations with each other  .

   No one at the ground cared about the songs , just Guardian readers got upset by it 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

The game was from three years ago and no further action was taken , the "racist abuse" was a disgusting song about Welsh peoples alleged sexual relations with sheep and the Welsh sung a song back about English mens alleged sexual relations with each other  .

   No one at the ground cared about the songs , just Guardian readers got upset by it 

? So your claim that the poll was swayed because of numerous false newspaper reports  has no basis in fact

 

51 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You may want to read the post I was replying to and the accusations made against the Guardian. Besides its the view of the majority of British people:

 

Following the racist abuse hitting the headlines, seven in ten football fans in England (71%) now think that professional English football has a serious problem with racism, a rise of 17 percentage points since the opening stages of the tournament in June.

This represents a significant conversion among those who had previously acknowledged that racism existed in English football, but did not consider it to be serious: 36% previously had held this view, but this has now shrunk to 24%.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/sport/articles-reports/2021/07/22/belief-racism-serious-problem-english-football-sho

 

38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well of course people are going to think racism is increasing in football if there are numerous  false newspaper reports of it happening and English and Welsh fans singing songs to each other is regarded as racism .

   Asking people whether they think that there's racism in football ISNT proof that it exists .

  You think that racism exists in football , how many games did you go to last season and what did you witness or did you gain your opinion from false media reports?

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

? So your claim that the poll was swayed because of numerous false newspaper reports  has no basis in fact

 

 

 

You really need to get your editing sorted out . 

There have been numerous false reports of football fans singing racists songs , like when many Brighton fans were all reported to have  chanting "Zeig Heil, Zeig Heil" throughout the game .

   It was then bought to the attention of the reporter that Brighton's nickname is the Seagulls and they were chanting "Seagulls, Seagulls" and NOT *Zeig Heil*

[Taboo2]

Why can't folks just go to a game, eat, drink and have fun?  Seriously.

 

Are they sexually frustrated?  What is their problem to have them resort to racist abuse?

 

Seriously, just have fun.  It is only a game.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

You really need to get your editing sorted out . 

There have been numerous false reports of football fans singing racists songs , like when many Brighton fans were all reported to have  chanting "Zeig Heil, Zeig Heil" throughout the game .

   It was then bought to the attention of the reporter that Brighton's nickname is the Seagulls and they were chanting "Seagulls, Seagulls" and NOT *Zeig Heil*

Oh so that's what swayed so many polls in the UK, a mix up between seagulls and Zeig Heil.

 

Honestly your claim it affected the polls is laughable and you've provided no proof to substantiate your claims. 

 

Racism arrests rising at London football grounds as campaigners call for action

Racism arrests at London club football grounds rose during the past six years, analysis of Met Police records shows.

Statistics acquired through Freedom of Information requests show both total and per-game arrests increased between 2015/16 and 2019/20.

https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/sport/14022022-racism-arrests-rising-at-london-football-grounds-as-campaigners-call-for-action

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh so that's what swayed so many polls in the UK, a mix up between seagulls and Zeig Heil.

 

Honestly your claim it affected the polls is laughable and you've provided no proof to substantiate your claims. 

 

Racism arrests rising at London football grounds as campaigners call for action

Racism arrests at London club football grounds rose during the past six years, analysis of Met Police records shows.

Statistics acquired through Freedom of Information requests show both total and per-game arrests increased between 2015/16 and 2019/20.

https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/sport/14022022-racism-arrests-rising-at-london-football-grounds-as-campaigners-call-for-action

Those figures show that in one year at 18 London football grounds, there were 40 arrests for racism .

   Those football stadiums hold about 500 000 people and 25  games a year and that's 15 million spectators and 40 of them got arrested and probably got life bans from attending again.

   40 people arrested out of ten million spectators , shows there isn't a problem  

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Those figures show that in one year at 18 London football grounds, there were 40 arrests for racism .

   Those football stadiums hold about 500 000 people and 25  games a year and that's 15 million spectators and 40 of them got arrested and probably got life bans from attending again.

   40 people arrested out of ten million spectators , shows there isn't a problem  

Well you got me, ok there's no problem, people aren't worried, the victims to the abuse are no problem, ignore the stats and polls and ignore the link just provided despite it stating clearly there were 48 fewer matches played in total because of lockdown restrictions. Goodnight

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well you got me, ok there's no problem, people aren't worried, the victims to the abuse are no problem, ignore the stats and polls and ignore the link just provided despite it stating clearly there were 48 fewer matches played in total because of lockdown restrictions. Goodnight

Didn't you even read your own link ?

"Data for the 2020/21 season has been omitted from the analysis because no matches were played at the clubs’ grounds due to Covid restrictions."

 

 

OK, can you provide some evidence of racism at football games ?

   Not polls or peoples opinion , actual reports of racist incidents at football games ?

  The reports  in this O.P are from online abusers and it just takes a few people posting things online for it to be headline news .

  So, what are the racist incidents at football grounds that you are referring to ?

  

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Didn't you even read your own link ?

"Data for the 2020/21 season has been omitted from the analysis because no matches were played at the clubs’ grounds due to Covid restrictions."

 

 

OK, can you provide some evidence of racism at football games ?

   Not polls or peoples opinion , actual reports of racist incidents at football games ?

  The reports  in this O.P are from online abusers and it just takes a few people posting things online for it to be headline news .

  So, what are the racist incidents at football grounds that you are referring to ?

  

Didn't you even read your own link ?

"Data for the 2020/21 season has been omitted from the analysis because no matches were played at the clubs’ grounds due to Covid restrictions."

 

Yes I did