Brit and Singapore pensioners rounded up in Bangkok on long overstays "to protect Thailand and stop losses"

[mikeymike100]

8 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

Tipsters needed in Phuket !!

Correct, that place is heading for disaster, still it will keep the cops busy?

[PJ71]

Pathetic!

 

Secret informers......grasses, bottom feeders.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 minute ago, Mickeymaus said:

I would organise this differently. The immigration computer knows the overstayers. I would put their names, nationality and pictures on the Internet and offer a financial reward if someone reports one. It could be that simple... 

 

Agreed. But Thailand never, ever does simple. I am convinced that in some dark corner of a government building there is a specialist unit that dreams up how many ways it can make a simple task as difficult as possible so that those dealing with their 'victims' can feel important.

[orchis]

a sad situation to be in at 76, I hope they do not put him in immigration lockup.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

23 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

Sorry, but there is a degree of naivety in that post. 

 

You think an overstayer gets involved with TM30's and 90 day reports.? I knew someone on 5 years overstay (12 years ago - if he is still alive he could be the record holder!)' Lived in the backwaters of Buriram with a Thai lady and picked up his state pension of 8,500 Baht p.m. (and that was when the rate was 50).

If the Immigration system was intelligent it would electronically 

You proved my point?

Only the good guys report their accommodation address (TM30) and do 90 reports?

 

 

[billd766]

22 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

So are you saying that support law breaking?

 

 

Where do you draw your line - overstay, robbery, rape and murder?

And did any of those pensioners commit robbery, rape and murder? Overstay, yes, BUT they paid their way and cost the Thai government nothing.

 

IF they were committing real crimes I would be in agreement, but they weren't.

 

A quote from Charles Dickens for you.

 

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-law-is-an-ass.html

 

What's the meaning of the phrase 'The law is an ass'?
The law is an ass is a derisive expression said when the the rigid application of the letter of the law is seen to be contrary to common sense.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

I can’t help but feel sorry for the Brit, he’ll be deported back to the UK that he’s not visited in over a decade with likely no where to stay & hardly a pot to p155 in.  
 

The UK is No Country For Old Men 

It will cost them most of their pension for their power bills.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, Lemsta69 said:

Old Big Ears is doing alright!

No he's not! He is getting weighed down by all these medals he has earned fighting for his country.

[Mr Dome]

How would any stranger know your visa status? ????

 

Would also like to know the reason for overstaying in each case.

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Now what are they going to do with a 76 year old man? Lock him up in the IDC until he dies? 

That is exactly what they will do if no one can pay his plane fare back home.

[Ginner]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Good news, that 76 yr old brit looks like trouble. Thailand is now safe.

My God! sounds like an SAS style operation. Fanned out so no possible way to escape, officers moved in QUICKLY. A 76 year old and a 62 year old.  A real threat to Thai security. Mind you, if they were still getting a pension then one months amount of cash could have got them a retirement visa from most visa services in and around Bangkok. I mean...they advertise quite openly on FB. Just a thought.

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Be honest, this guy probably arrived with some savings, had a good time, and as the UK government freezes pensions for those abroad, has slowly seen his income get to the point of being unable to pay an agent after the rent and food comes out.

 

76 - he can just go home now and get in a warm care home - 13 years on the raz and a bed in a care home seems quite a good end of life to me

He will not get into a care home if he is in good health, besides who would be paying for it?

[ThailandRyan]

45 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

Tipsters needed in Phuket !!

5 rubles to be paid for each tip being confirmed....

[sambum]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I understand every nation has its laws. I am fine with immigration backing up those laws. A ten year overstay is quite an accomplishment. 

 

However, I consider integrity and honesty to be important. Saying this is about stopping some kind of loss to the nation is disengenuous. The average Thai earns around 20,000 baht per month. The average pensioner gets how much? 35,000 baht? 50,000 baht? Plus potential income from other sources. So, I just don't see any loss taking place. It is so typical of Prayuth to be dishonest. 

"............ to stop Thais and foreigners causing trouble in Thailand, maintain the safety of the public and stop losses to the country."

1 "To stop Thais and foreigners causing trouble in Thailand." I see no Thais being arrested for overstay, and I doubt very much whether a 76 year old British pensioner will be causing much trouble!

2 "Maintain the safety of the public" I fail to see what pensioners on overstay has to do with the safety of the public, but no doubt someone in Government can explain it!

3. "Stop losses to the country" Apart from visa revenues of probably 1900 baht per year, what losses? As previously mentioned, I would imagine that the Brit pensioner will be spending  app 40,000 baht annually.

 

Yet more mumbling rhetoric from the Department whose main purpose in life seems to be catching  people on overstay - not what I would call "real" criminals! 

[CANSIAM]

39 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Correct, that place is heading for disaster, still it will keep the cops busy?

Money overrides laws and policies, not sure if the disaster is fixable............. 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The first man arrested was 76 year old British pensioner Joseph Taylor whose passport showed he had permission to stay until November 26th 2011.

Oh dear, that's a long time to be here without permission.

Likely he'll be sent back to the UK where he most probably has nothing to return to.

[markclover]

They lost a human for 12 years. lol  Looks like all the paperwork and checks are working.

[AustinRacing]

No sympathy for them. Either they were trying to hide or not wanting to pay for the extension. Either way you’re not above the law. Out you go. 

[Kaopad999]

it may be tempting to stay longer in a foreign country, like this man did, but it's important to follow the visa regulations and respect the host country's laws.
it's well known that overstaying a visa in Thailand can result in deportation and a 10 year ban

[Red Forever]

4 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

Quite possibly also means he does not have a valid passport either Nov 2011 + 10 years gets you too Nov 2021, if that is the case where are they going to return him too

Good point but just because he has no valid passport doesn't mean he hasn't British citizenship.

[sambum]

9 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

No sympathy for them. Either they were trying to hide or not wanting to pay for the extension. Either way you’re not above the law. Out you go. 

You have a real heart of gold, don't you?

[nigelforbes]

19 minutes ago, sambum said:

You have a real heart of gold, don't you?

Hmm, but if the equivalent no visa/overstayer was arrested for the same offense in posters home country, how supportive would everyone be then, methinks, not much at all!

[Mr Meeseeks]

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Good news, that 76 yr old brit looks like trouble. Thailand is now safe.

I can see why they would think so, his age is probably higher than the IQ of the people who arrested him. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

7 hours ago, nigelforbes said:

Presumably (potential future) medical costs that he likely can't afford.

Objection your Honour, speculation!

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I can see why they would think so, his age is probably higher than the IQ of the people who arrested him. 

Jenny yelled Run Forest Run, but it was too late they, the Immigration boys, had fanned out to catch him before he ran across Thailand.

[Burma Bill]

If he is deported back to the UK, then he will be entitled to all his State OAP back increments and bonus payments that were frozen 11 years ago! (if he was entitled in the first place).

[Doctor Tom]

7 hours ago, me4175 said:

Stop what losses, please? I'm sure they spent more of their pension money here than their visa fees would have been.

So what, they broke the Law, no sympathy whatsoever.  Its the actions of idiots like this that mean the rest of us have to put up with 90 day reports, entry permits and only 12 month extensions.  Throw them all out, so well done immigration. 

[nigelforbes]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Objection your Honour, speculation!

Overruled, increasing old age means worsening health and increased need for medical care, if if couldn't afford the visa, how would he be able to afford the health care.

 

 

[Doctor Tom]

8 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I can see why they would think so, his age is probably higher than the IQ of the people who arrested him. 

His IQ is probably lower than my Shih Tzu and he isn't very bright at all. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

5 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Overruled, increasing old age means worsening health and increased need for medical care, if if couldn't afford the visa, how would he be able to afford the health care.

 

 

How do you know he wasn't fully insured?

 

Again, you are speculating based on prejudice.