Popular Post webfact Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 This week Deputy National Police Chief General Surachate Hakparn (right) warned that Thailand must stem the flow of criminal elements from China into Thailand as he detailed the extraordinary case of criminal mastermind Ms Navaporn Phakiatsakul (left) who was arrested by police in raids on April 8th last linked to an extensive transnational surrogacy operation. General Surachate detailed how, from nothing in 1988/1989, as a Chinese immigrant, Ms Navaporn has built a multi-billion baht legitimate empire for her three Thai children now beyond the reach of authorities and law enforcement despite her arrest. by Carla Boonkong & Pranee O' Connor Deputy National Police Chief raises a red flag as he advises that unless the flow of Chinese criminality into Thailand which has been ongoing for decades is turned off, the country’s foreign tourism is at risk and also, in a very real sense, its national security due to the use of surrogate children and other devices by Chinese criminal masterminds to subvert Thai laws. This week he revealed that much of what he is learning is coming from China’s state police who are assisting authorities in Thailand. He warned that many Chinese tourists are already being put in fear of travelling to Thailand due to powerful online messaging at home warning of the dangers in the kingdom. Amid a sharp rise in crime linked to Chinese nationals in Thailand with almost daily reports of abductions or dramatic cases, the country’s favourite policeman ‘Big Joke’ or General Surachate Hakparn has warned that an end must be brought about to the movement of shady and corrupt Chinese criminal elements in Thailand who for the last two decades have been settling here as they take flight from stronger law and order measures imposed by Beijing. The deputy national police chief also highlighted the case of a Chinese woman who arrived here 35 years ago and set up an extensive transnational criminal empire engaged in providing surrogate Thai children to Chinese nationals. He outlined how the woman has amassed a fortune of billions of baht which Thai authorities cannot reach as she, in a move which General Surachate is convinced must have been planned from the outset, made sure all the assets were tied up in bona fide business concerns owned by her three Thai children who are strictly engaged in honest and legitimate commercial enterprises in the country including a well regarded Thai insurance company with over ฿600 million a year in income. Thailand’s leading policeman, Deputy National Police Chief General Surachate Hakparn or ‘Big Joke’ this week warned that it was critically important to the country’s tourism prospects to wipe out illegality which has spread into Thailand from China because of a crackdown against illegal activities in the middle kingdom over the last two decades. Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/04/19/chinese-criminal-matriarch-navaporn-phakiatsakul-built-an-empire/ -- © Copyright Thai Examiner 2023-04-20 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 2 2 5 3
Popular Post ezzra Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 Please tell us again what was the Chinese government's warning to their citizens about being carful of criminal elements rife in Thailand again? 2 2 1 3
Popular Post ukrules Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 Thailand is on the list of 'Nine forbidden countries' for the Chinese. Google it - "china nine forbidden countries" - it's a rabbit hole. Certain news stories are now making a little more sense with hindsight - like that fake diplomat driving around in a police car. I wonder if he was somehow related to these illegal police stations in some way. 5 1
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 Please tell me that Thailand is finally waking up to the Chinese intent or was it just a blink of an eye ................... 5 1 1
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: the country’s favourite policeman ‘Big Joke’ or General Surachate Hakparn has warned that an end must be brought about to the movement of shady and corrupt Chinese criminal elements in Thailand who for the last two decades have been settling here as they take flight from stronger law and order In order to achieve that an end must be brought about to the aiding and abetting from corrupt Thai officials. 5 1 4
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: Please tell me that Thailand is finally waking up to the Chinese intent or was it just a blink of an eye ................... They're waking up to the realisation that they've been beaten at their own game. 5 4 1 2
Popular Post SABloke Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: made sure all the assets were tied up in bona fide business concerns Isn't pumping illegally generated income into a "bona fide" business known as money laundering? Or is that not a crime in Thailand? Also, let's be honest: Joke is not the country's favourite policeman, he's simply the least hated of the lot. 4 1 2
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 Maybe they should start with a good internet and computersystem.... We found out yesterday that there is a lot to improve. Partly because they are too lazy to work, and partly because the system doesn't work..No wonder that criminals can't be found. I think it is the same for immigration too.... After 17 years living in Thailand immigration can't see where I live or something and my office have no idea too because we have to give them the information time after time.... 5 2 1
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted April 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2023 Attention BJ the flow of Russian and Saudi criminality will be begin in earnest with the recent slobbering and the stampede for dollar from even more unsavory sources the country is wide open to corruption and full of corrupted to facilitate ???? 5 2 1
Popular Post jingjai9 Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 Thai authorities seem to be paying the price for ignoring the rise of the Chinese mafia over the last two decades. Part of this is no doubt due to corruption, but another part is simply ignoring a problem that will one day blow up in their faces. This is similar to The US presidential administrations in the 70s simply ignoring or underestimating the increasing power, influence and wealth of the drug cartels in South America. It seems as though the Chinese criminals in Thailand have amassed so much wealth over the decades they can open their wallets and ask government officials to name their price. It would seem to me if Thai children who have gained wealth from the proceeds of ill begotten funds, should be forced to give it up regardless of their parents' nationalities. It is not clean money, is it? 4 1
Popular Post NextG Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 It seems that they have abandoned the attempt to block the mention of Chinese and China, due to the sheer amount of criminality involved. 4 1
Popular Post ignore it Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 Hmm. Like this hasn't been going on for the last 100+ years or so... 2 1 3
Popular Post gearbox Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Please tell me that Thailand is finally waking up to the Chinese intent or was it just a blink of an eye ................... Waking up to what? This is a criminal case and as the OP says: "This week he revealed that much of what he is learning is coming from China’s state police who are assisting authorities in Thailand." It is actually the Chinese helping them to sort this out. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, gearbox said: Waking up to what? This is a criminal case and as the OP says: "This week he revealed that much of what he is learning is coming from China’s state police who are assisting authorities in Thailand." It is actually the Chinese helping them to sort this out. The CCP only help themselves, they are also very good at propoganda so don't believe everything you read - Just saying !!!! 3 3
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 7 hours ago, webfact said: the flow of Chinese criminality into Thailand which has been ongoing for decades And who forced the government and authorities having to acknowledge it in the first place and then having to focus on this? Chuwit, a private citizen with an online platform, relentlessly shoved it down their throats until they had to reluctantly swallow. And now they are making out as if they had been on the ball from the very beginning... 3 1 1
seajae Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 and these chinese criminals are the prefered tourist the thai govt want to be here and make it easier for them to do so, really have to wonder what they are getting out of it to push them for being the best people to visit the country 1
Popular Post Will B Good Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 Thai politicians, army generals and senior ranking RTP have built safe empires and fortunes for themselves and their children.......she's not really done anything different. 3 3
PremiumLane Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 8 hours ago, webfact said: The deputy national police chief also highlighted the case of a Chinese woman who arrived here 35 years ago and set up an extensive transnational criminal empire engaged in providing surrogate Thai children to Chinese nationals. He outlined how the woman has amassed a fortune of billions of baht which Thai authorities cannot reach as she, in a move which General Surachate is convinced must have been planned from the outset, made sure all the assets were tied up in bona fide business concerns owned by her three Thai children who are strictly engaged in honest and legitimate commercial enterprises in the country including a well regarded Thai insurance company with over ฿600 million a year in income. So she is now a Thai citizen, her kids are Thai and they have legitimate businesses... how is this a Chinese plot? 2 1
John Drake Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 Quote while the victim, who has bizarrely arrested himself for assault on Sunday in Hua Hin, ended up being detained by Immigration Police after officers found he was wanted for fraud by the Chinese police. He assaulted himself? I guess anything is possible. Maybe Thailand also about to find out that there are cultures that tend to follow rules and laws without much coercion, and there are others that have self interested criminality as the be all, end all. Of late, Thailand has snubbed the former and pandered to the latter. 1
Liverpool Lou Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 7 hours ago, SABloke said: Isn't pumping illegally generated income into a "bona fide" business known as money laundering? Or is that not a crime in Thailand? That's why he clearly stated that the money laundering aspect is being investigated. 1
Liverpool Lou Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, seajae said: and these chinese criminals are the prefered tourist the thai govt want to be here and make it easier for them to do so Where has any of that been stated? Which Thai agency has said that "Chinese tourists are preferred", that they are "the best people to visit the country" and that their entry to Thailand is being made easier? Is requiring them to have visas making their entry easier?
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, PremiumLane said: So she is now a Thai citizen, her kids are Thai and they have legitimate businesses... how is this a Chinese plot? "...how is this a Chinese plot?" By her also being Chinese! And possibly having obtained her Thai citizenship nefariously. 2 1
Mavideol Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, webfact said: Chinese criminality into Thailand which has been ongoing for decades is turned off, everybody knows, nothing new, the only way to solve that is to once and for all remove corruption from their DNA.... that guy who grabbed power back in 2014 promised to hunt down corruption unfortunately it appears it went the other way around, it increased.... go straight up to the top of the pyramid and things will start to change, currently wasting time and energy chasing the lower ranks/bottom of the pyramid
SirHonkersTheFirst Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 The Chinese are a savvy bunch. Not the nicest, but very savvy. And they thrive on chaos and corruption, which is abundant in many, many countries (including their own). Now in Vietnam, and those Vietnamese that say they hate China are the ones that haven't been offered a healthy lump of coffee money by their neighbours just yet. 1
PremiumLane Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: "...how is this a Chinese plot?" By her also being Chinese! And possibly having obtained her Thai citizenship nefariously. She also could have just come here and got married and it wasn't a "Chinese plot" - I mean we are talking the Thai plod here 1
cncltd1973 Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 20 hours ago, PremiumLane said: So she is now a Thai citizen, her kids are Thai and they have legitimate businesses... how is this a Chinese plot? apparently when 2 Chinese people make a baby and pass it through a thai womb, it magically becomes thai. that's a convenient loophole for a Chinese couple to have a Chinese child and launder the money through, which makes the gains legal because the child is technically thai(?). not sure why laundering is legal here and they don't just seize all the businesses bought with dirty money. they found the money trail but claim the money is safe and out of reach, one can only assume money laundering isn't prosecuted if you are thai...
jonclark Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 20 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: "...how is this a Chinese plot?" By her also being Chinese! And possibly having obtained her Thai citizenship nefariously. Odd one this as China doesn't allow duel citizenship so if she holds Thai citizenship she cannot be Chinese. China actively forbids this and does not recognize those with dual citizenship as being Chinese. You need to choose either Chinese or Thai (from a CCP point of view) . She may have been born in China to Chinese parents but she isn't from a Chinese legal standpoint Chinese, as she has effectively cut herself off from that by holding Thai citizenship.
djayz Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 What's that saying again? ???? You've made your bed, now lie in it.
proton Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, cncltd1973 said: apparently when 2 Chinese people make a baby and pass it through a thai womb, it magically becomes thai. that's a convenient loophole for a Chinese couple to have a Chinese child and launder the money through, which makes the gains legal because the child is technically thai(?). not sure why laundering is legal here and they don't just seize all the businesses bought with dirty money. they found the money trail but claim the money is safe and out of reach, one can only assume money laundering isn't prosecuted if you are thai... Our Chinese neighbour gets a visa by claiming one of her kids is Thai, got a Thai mans name on the birth document. She's married and lives with the Chinese father, who works illegally. Several Chinese national families round us, they are all up to something dodgy, all managed to buy houses and other assets, working illegally or on dodgy visas. One claimed to have bought a Thai ID for 200k several years ago. Crafty lot who stick close together. 1
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