Popular Post webfact Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 The Royal Thai Navy’s H.T.M.S. Chang, a China-built amphibious landing and submarine escort, enters Thai waters, April 14, 2023. [Handout Royal Thai Navy] by Nontarat Phaicharoen Bangkok is prepared to accept a modified ship engine to power a submarine China is building for the Royal Thai Navy provided Beijing guarantees the engine is safe, the Thai Navy commander said this week. Thailand’s purchase of the 13.5 billion baht (U.S. $369 million) Yuan-class submarine ran into trouble because the Chinese state-owned submarine developer was unable to buy a German-built diesel submarine engine, due to a European Union arms embargo on Beijing. The Chinese Navy would have until June to guarantee the modified ship engine’s safety, said Thai Navy Commander Adm. Choengchai Chomchoengpaet following talks in Beijing in mid-April. “We have three conditions to consider – the engine must be safe. Second, the Chinese navy must guarantee this engine for the Thai navy. And third, there must be compensation for the delay due to the engine change,” Choengchai said at an event in Chon Buri province on Tuesday. “These are the important conditions in a decision on whether the contract would go on or be canceled,” he said. Full story: https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/thai/thailand-chinese-submarine-04262023135545.html -- © Copyright Benar News 2023-04-28 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Celsius Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 Oh, this is still not resolved? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 What a complete and utter farce......although it's good to know, if you are lying 300m down on the seabed with no engines, that the engines are still under warranty. 3 4 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, webfact said: We have three conditions to consider – the engine must be safe. Second, the Chinese navy must guarantee this engine for the Thai navy. Exactly what does this mean - Reading this in its current form it means absolutely nothing .. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, webfact said: Bangkok is prepared to accept a modified ship engine to power a submarine China is building for the Royal Thai Navy provided Beijing guarantees the engine is safe, the Thai Navy commander said this week. Ought to take them just about long enough to walk across the room and stamp the contract "Sold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Will B Good said: What a complete and utter farce......although it's good to know, if you are lying 300m down on the seabed with no engines, that the engines are still under warranty. I think that the people trousering money from this deal, while possibly even holding a Naval or military rank, will never set sail on any of the vessels they are purchasing from China. 6 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, Will B Good said: What a complete and utter farce......although it's good to know, if you are lying 300m down on the seabed with no engines, that the engines are still under warranty. Average depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 58 m. ???? 3 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Exactly what does this mean - Reading this in its current form it means absolutely nothing .. It probably will be but with a big discount - there is not much choice. It seems that the CHD engine is the Chinese "equivalent" of the originally specified MTU. Edited April 28, 2023 by Pink Mist Oversized Font corrected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJ2U Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just order a submarine with the right engine. Who's going to buy Rolls-Royce with a modified engine. Nobody in there right mind. Idiots. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 Has any reporter asked the Defence Ministry why Thailand needs a submarine? 2 2 1 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Just order a submarine with the right engine. Who's going to buy Rolls-Royce with a modified engine. Nobody in there right mind. Idiots. agree ...... it's unconscionable that people in high level positions as they are have suggested doing this. It reminds me of the old days of working in the bush and when something breaks down the bush mechanic takes over .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bundooman Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 The new, desperately needed assault ship has now arrived and is to be berthed inboard of Aircraft Carrier Chakri, currently sitting permanently alongside the jetty after one sea trial many years ago. Later this year the new submarine will also arrive to be berthed outboard of the Chakri. On Children's day, these mighty warships will spring into action, over-awing the boys and girls with the might and power of the Thai Royal Navy, (quayside only). Meanwhile, overhead, the heart-stopping thunder of fighter jet engines as the massed squadrons of the Thai Royal Air-force fly over this tremendous Naval task force, soon to be in action, against the ........... Who is the enemy? Oh yes, the Thai population! (I almost forgot, silly me). As the echoes of this massive air display involving two jet fighters fade away, all the little children, yes folks, even the grown-up little children will drift off home in a state of wonderment and happiness, safe in the knowledge that the Thai Armed Forces are ready, alert (?) and prepared to put down their enemies. Then it's back to the Laundry lines slung across deck, just as they were in 1964 when I first arrived in Thailand and we steamed up the Chao Phraya River for 10 days shore leave in Bangkok. The entire Thai Navy appeared to have done their laundry very early that morning, at 6:30 am. I'd probably see the same thing in 3 years time if I re-enacted that amazing Ceremonial 'entry into harbour' scene..... 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reigntax Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, nauseus said: It probably will be but with a big discount - there is not much choice. It seems that the CHD engine is the Chinese "equivalent" of the originally specified MTU. Yes it will be a copy but with extras… extra noise and rattles. It should make so much noise that even the Thai navy can’t lose it!!! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: Second, the Chinese navy must guarantee this engine for the Thai navy really?... that's a question, does Thailand would expect a denial from China, sure they will guarantee 555 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clarkey611 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: 13.5 billion baht Wow! That's nearly $5 a head for everyone in the country. Somebody is making money big time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzupnow Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 well safe or not safe the water around thailand is so clear and shallow they will always be able to hoist the thing up so why not another ridiculous tourist attaction 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beau thai Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Average depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 58 m. ???? so wont the submarines be so detectable at that level as to be useless?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Average depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 58 m. ???? Max depth 80m. Use would have to be in the Andaman Sea which has a total Thailand coastline of about 949km covering 6 provinces. Other than their tourist value, not much really of any military significance. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaideedave Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, beau thai said: so wont the submarines be so detectable at that level as to be useless?? I served 6 years aboard a diesel submarine in my younger days.I doubt our Cptn would even want to operate in the gulf unless we stayed on the surface. I do see on the news the USN has boomers in the Persian Gulf and its even less deep in areas. They could probably be spotted from a Cessna aircraft... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post stoner Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, jaideedave said: They could probably be spotted from a Cessna aircraft... they bought 2 of these for 8.9 billion already. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Max depth 80m. Use would have to be in the Andaman Sea which has a total Thailand coastline of about 949km covering 6 provinces. Other than their tourist value, not much really of any military significance. But could be useful in the event of war with India. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Celsius said: Oh, this is still not resolved? good things come to those who wait???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1804 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 What a complete joke, like thousands of comments on here, what on earth would Thailand want submarines for?? It would be very interesting to follow the payment trail! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Average depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 58 m. ???? Not too deep then for them to pipe out the Exhaust fumes to the surface from them old Sampan Engines that are to be fitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesmac Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Reigntax said: Yes it will be a copy but with extras… extra noise and rattles. It should make so much noise that even the Thai navy can’t lose it!!! Want a bet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, wazzupnow said: well safe or not safe the water around thailand is so clear and shallow they will always be able to hoist the thing up so why not another ridiculous tourist attaction It's only shallow on one side of Thailand. Not the side in which they will choose to operate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Average depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 58 m. ???? and you can't use diesel motors if you are submerged. 58 m is pathetic, you can't hide a sub in such shallow water, even WW2 technology would find you with no trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Well, just so you know, I’m not setting foot on this submarine ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, ozimoron said: It's only shallow on one side of Thailand. Not the side in which they will choose to operate. In which case, there is no choice............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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