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On 5/6/2023 at 9:31 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

I always found that to be quite unethical .

They are charging you money per ejaculation .

The reason for an ejaculation is to reproduce Children 

You are paying per ejaculation .

What about fun?

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On 5/6/2023 at 6:06 PM, Goodboybkk said:

How common is one night stand especially in urban areas with a non prostitute for free?

As rare as rocking horse s**t..

nothing is free in Thailand, certainly not kitty.

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Have you naysayers actually tried to socialize with the local gals outside of the P4P venues/sois/adult entertainment areas.

 

You may be surprised, or not.  

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women get horny so hows your luck, i have never had probs with widows and divorcees wanting a jump .one of them a teacher died      of AIDS and i didnt catch it lucky for me ... mrs daeng an attractive teacher went to her grave 15 years ago with aids and her boy friend too

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You can have a one night stand anywhere .  It has to do with the individuals.  Not the country. 

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4 hours ago, swm59nj said:

You can have a one night stand anywhere .  It has to do with the individuals.  Not the country. 

Yes you can if target 3/10

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12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Have you naysayers actually tried to socialize with the local gals outside of the P4P venues/sois/adult entertainment areas.

 

You may be surprised, or not.  

They've tried to socialise with me, but all too fat/ugly/old for me to be interested.

I want to pick and choose from the 'spinners'.

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Well, the wife and I have a seemingly endless series of one-night stands, so around here they're pretty common.

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16 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, giving Females bits of paper and they allow you to put your body parts inside their body parts seems a bit strange to me 

You're joking right?  I don't indulge in P4P that much these days (and not because I don't want to) but I can tell you this much - you will give P4P females far less bits of paper than you will give to a wife or girlfriend.  For some guys, wives and girlfriends literally cost them everything!

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One night stand is ok if you sleep alone. A second night stand would be handy if you sleep with someone else. It's more pleasing to the eye if there's a night stand either side of the bed.

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I allowed a Thai lady to stay with me for three months what a nightmare it turned out to be now I just do one night stands or sometimes a weekend stay if she has to travel .I use sites like Tinder don’t bother with bar girls as the fine is 500 baht to take them out of the bar . One thing I have learned is you can take the girl out of the bar or massage shop but you can’t take the bar or massage shop out of the girl  ( when I say massage shop I refer to happy ending shops ) I tend to use Tinder at the time of writing I have 64 interested ladies however what I have noticed is since Covid a lot of the women who worked the bars and massage shops turned to the likes of Tinder to ply there trade if I was in Europe I would meet a lady take her out and spoil her and maybe cook breakfast in the morning for her I might even give her a financial gift as we say our farewell    she leaves happily as do I indeed some of them I might meet up with again it’s no different here in Thailand , a lot of Thai woman are not looking for a long term relationship.they are happy to be spoilt and treated with some respect for the night the ones I’ve dated all say that Thai men are useless they lack charm and are easily annoyed . 

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3 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

You're joking right?  I don't indulge in P4P that much these days (and not because I don't want to) but I can tell you this much - you will give P4P females far less bits of paper than you will give to a wife or girlfriend.  For some guys, wives and girlfriends literally cost them everything!

Many Females work these days , sometimes earning more money than the male and they pay their way in a relationship . Other guys who stay married do not lose everything or anything at all actually, to their partner  .

   So, get a partner who can pay their way or don't get divorced 

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30 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Many Females work these days , sometimes earning more money than the male and they pay their way in a relationship .

I've never seen that in any country.

The guy always ends up paying the significant expenses (car/house/utils).

The gal usually spends her earnings on herself.

 

My Thai cycling pal (retired schoolteacher age 64) has a Thai gf age 56.

Dinner and companionship is all he is prepared to risk, she wants him to move in and pay for everything, but he says he's not paying a woman of that age for sex when he can have a 20+yo for much less.

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4 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

You're joking right?  I don't indulge in P4P that much these days (and not because I don't want to) but I can tell you this much - you will give P4P females far less bits of paper than you will give to a wife or girlfriend.  For some guys, wives and girlfriends literally cost them everything!

Agree 100%, the guys that say different have either never had a LTR with a woman, or are living in denial.

Although I have seen a few guys living in a sexless relationship where the woman pays a significant share of expenses.

 

Briffault's Law

The female of the species controls all access to sex, where she gains no benefit, he receives no sex.

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6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Many Females work these days , sometimes earning more money than the male and they pay their way in a relationship . Other guys who stay married do not lose everything or anything at all actually, to their partner  .

   So, get a partner who can pay their way or don't get divorced 

Both agree and disagree.  I've been divorced more times than I care to mention and putting it in perspective, I've lost very little - in the divorce that is.  However, if I tot up how much I spent during the relationships, that would be a completely different story. That is especially the case in a marriage to an Asian woman where the culture itself expects the male to provide (pay) everything.

 

I've been in a marriage where my wife (Thai) earned more than me and as Britman says, she considered that her earnings were hers - to the extent that she tried to hide what she had and saved up a small fortune whilst I paid 80% of the cost of living.  We'd had our problems and always got through them but when I found out about her financial situation and how she'd been duping me - I ended the relationship on the spot.

 

These days, I'm in a relationship but we do not live together - even when I'm in Thailand, we each have our own houses and that's the way its going to stay.  I know very well (from experience) that if I were to take things further, it would end up costing me a fortune. As a bonus, when I want a little 'extra' - I'm able to do so. I doubt many will admit to it but I believe most guys would like to have a little 'extra' from time to time.  When I do, its P4P all the way - I know the cost of that from the outset and its drama free.

 

No divorce to worry about, nobody trying to take my house, car or anything else I've worked for.  I should have done this years ago but at least I've finally seen the light.

 

I am sure there will be relationships where the female has paid the Lion's share but they, I am certain, will be very few and far between.

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On 5/6/2023 at 6:58 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

I do think that you are exaggerating somewhat .

My opinion is neither "extreme right wing " or "prudish"

Paying to ejaculate just sits uneasy with me , like paying girls to put your knob inside them , just seems a bit odd.

   Do carry on though, don't mind my opinion and continue to do what you want , I just prefer not to participate , 

You'll be paying anyway, one way or the other.

 

Some ways are less overt of course.

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6 minutes ago, wolf81 said:

You'll be paying anyone, one way or the other.

 

Some ways are less overt of course.

Really depends and as always ...

... Choose wisely

 

Yes, companionship does cost, unless you are the one being supported financially.

 

Take sex & emotional attachment out of the equation, and as a single parent, courting, living with, and marrying #4 ???? on paper, damn good investment:

... tutor for daughter

... maid/housekeeper

... gardener/groundskeeper

... translator

... personal shopper

... cook

... tailor

... hotel reservationist/negotiator 

... handy person, she can; solder, weld, plumb, operate hand tools

 

All for the price of providing a roof over head, bed to share & transport...

... all of which I had anyway.  Additional cost, feed & clothe, which she makes hers own and my clothing anyway.

 

Best added plus, now I can invest in land & RE, results...

... living in TH 'rent free' for over 20 yrs

 

OK, I'm at her beckon call as her sex toy ...

... the things I have to put up with, it's degrading.

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On 5/10/2023 at 10:59 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Many Females work these days , sometimes earning more money than the male and they pay their way in a relationship . Other guys who stay married do not lose everything or anything at all actually, to their partner  .

   So, get a partner who can pay their way or don't get divorced 

No woman wants a man who can't earn/provide more than her.

That's just the way it works.

 

I have 2 educated adult daughters (age 37 and 25), both with no men in their lives, because the men need to have more money/income/prospects/education for them to find the men worthy.

 

You have no LTR but insist on telling those of us (with experience) how it is.

Yes, it's possible to get a free one, but unless you have 'more', they won't stick around.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

No woman wants a man who can't earn/provide more than her.

That's just the way it works.

 

 

100% agree.

I will say from my own experience here, and observation of others, that Thai women mostly stick to their side of the bargain, when support is provided.

No doubt that will change if Western family law gets a foothold in Thailand.

Domestic violence is now epidemic in Australia, and I am pretty sure said laws are a major contributor.

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On 5/12/2023 at 10:32 AM, KhunLA said:

Really depends and as always ...

... Choose wisely

 

Yes, companionship does cost, unless you are the one being supported financially.

 

Take sex & emotional attachment out of the equation, and as a single parent, courting, living with, and marrying #4 ???? on paper, damn good investment:

... tutor for daughter

... maid/housekeeper

... gardener/groundskeeper

... translator

... personal shopper

... cook

... tailor

... hotel reservationist/negotiator 

... handy person, she can; solder, weld, plumb, operate hand tools

 

All for the price of providing a roof over head, bed to share & transport...

... all of which I had anyway.  Additional cost, feed & clothe, which she makes hers own and my clothing anyway.

 

Best added plus, now I can invest in land & RE, results...

... living in TH 'rent free' for over 20 yrs

 

OK, I'm at her beckon call as her sex toy ...

... the things I have to put up with, it's degrading.

All means nothing if she isn't attractive. Not saying yours isn't but I've met guys describing situations like this and I wouldn't do it.

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2 hours ago, sidjameson said:

All means nothing if she isn't attractive. Not saying yours isn't but I've met guys describing situations like this and I wouldn't do it.

Sounding a wee bit shallow to me.   

 

So if you met a person who made you laugh, and held an intelligent conversation, a best friend, you're saying you'd pass on her/him/it, if not meeting the 'trophy wife/partner' requirement.

 

hmm ... 

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13 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Sounding a wee bit shallow to me.   

 

So if you met a person who made you laugh, and held an intelligent conversation, a best friend, you're saying you'd pass on her/him/it, if not meeting the 'trophy wife/partner' requirement.

 

hmm ... 

Yes. They'd be a great friend. 

Wish it was different but I require physical attraction.

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19 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Sounding a wee bit shallow to me.   

 

So if you met a person who made you laugh, and held an intelligent conversation, a best friend, you're saying you'd pass on her/him/it, if not meeting the 'trophy wife/partner' requirement.

 

hmm ... 

Would you have picked your current if you weren't a single dad?

I accept that being in love with your daughter makes a rational choice of partner more acceptable.

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28 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

Would you have picked your current if you weren't a single dad?

I accept that being in love with your daughter makes a rational choice of partner more acceptable.

Yes, my status was irrelevant, daughter having a mother figure just a plus.  We'd be together whether I was single or single parent.  That she accepts my daughter, simply added value to her character.  Many wouldn't consider it.

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