31% of Thais eye battery electric vehicles as next car choice

[snoop1130]

 

A recent survey by Deloitte Thailand revealed that 31% of Thai consumers are likely to opt for a battery electric vehicle (BEV) as their next car, the highest percentage in Southeast Asia. Despite this, internal combustion engine vehicles continue to be the preferred choice in the region.

 

The survey, conducted between September and October last year, focused on consumer behaviour in the automotive industry, particularly in relation to the growing electric vehicle (EV) trend. Over 6,000 consumers from Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam, and Singapore participated in the study, including around 1,000 Thai respondents.

 

Chodok Panyavaranant, Deloitte Thailand’s clients and market manager, stated that Thais are expected to base their next vehicle purchase on product quality, vehicle features, and brand image. He also noted that demand for EVs is increasing across the region as consumers seek to reduce fuel expenses.

 

By Alex Morgan

Top photo caption: Electric vehicle on display at IMPACT Challenger, Muang Thong Thani, Image via Facebook, Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd.

 

Full Story: https://thethaiger.com/news/business/31-of-thais-eye-battery-electric-vehicles-as-next-car-choice

 

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[dinsdale]

31% LOL. How about "Almost One Third". Doesn't matter though just more numbers and more predictions. Which reminds me the wet season has to start in the next 3 days.

[Pedrogaz]

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

[zzaa09]

10 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

Actually, almost difficult to fathom anywhere.

All talk, yet nothing practiced.

 

Consider The Big Green Lie. 

[proton]

Was at central yesterday, they just installed 8 charging points, but for Teslas only, not for any other make. Only ever seen one Tesla in the area so don''t know why they did this when they have other makes in the car park.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

Was at central yesterday, they just installed 8 charging points, but for Teslas only, not for any other make. Only ever seen one Tesla in the area so don''t know why they did this when they have other makes in the car park.

Because Tesla’s are considered hi-so and the Chinese variants are not and thus do not register in the myopic juvenile minds of those making such decisions. 

 

 

[Enoon]

3 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

 

You are absolutely correct.

 

None of this is happening.

 

It can't be.......really.......it can't

 

 

 

 

[BenStark]

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He also noted that demand for EVs is increasing across the region as consumers seek to reduce fuel expenses.

It will be many years before they have recovered the extra they pay for the car in reduced fuel expenses.

 

The same BS propaganda about my electricity is free because I have solar panels.

 

Well yeah, as soon as they have recovered the cost of the installation after 10 years, and it all still works as promised.

Edited May 24, 2023 by BenStark

[zzaa09]

31%

Sure. 

 

 

 

Who makes this stuff up?

[bluejets]

And...just like in Aus, where or what are they going to use to charge the ruddy things?

Julian Islet showed last month how he visited over 70 recharge stations and ALL but one were not working........????

Cost is prohibitive for many Aussies , how the hell are Thai going to handle that?

 

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

31% LOL. How about "Almost One Third". Doesn't matter though just more numbers and more predictions. Which reminds me the wet season has to start in the next 3 days.

Got their eye on one, I had my eye on a racing bike when I was a lad, my ole man said good, keep your eye on it because you'll never get yer ar$e on it.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht

They are popular perhaps as people are hearing of the high acceleration and torque they can produce, so they can race off at traffic lights much better than the pickup truck they were considering! The fact it will be stuck immobile with a dead battery 5 km off has yet to be considered.. a couple of chop sticks a bit of wire should take care of it as the driver goes drinking for 3 or 4 hours. 

[quake]

11 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

You can't go saying that, the world wants to give you jail time for that. 

 

I'm right with you mate, way to many lies being told on both sides to care anymore.

bring back plastic bags at stores, and keep up the burning of sugar cane, as the government won't pay you the difference in cost 

Right second coffee time. 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by quake

[Vampyteuthis]

Funny, I never heard a single young person say let them die. Almost all of them sacrificed 2 years of their development so the weak could carry on moaning. 

[arithai12]

13 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

I think they were saying more or less the same things
when motor vehicles were first introduced on the streets
in place of horse carts.

I see a lot of EV cars around, perhaps people are not
so idiotic as you seem to think and they have made their
choice based on their own priorities and needs?

 

[Peterphuket]

14 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

People are indoctrinated for the opposite, but I agree with you 100%.

See also all the reactions against you.

Edited May 25, 2023 by Peterphuket

[KhunLA]

14 hours ago, proton said:

Was at central yesterday, they just installed 8 charging points, but for Teslas only, not for any other make. Only ever seen one Tesla in the area so don''t know why they did this when they have other makes in the car park.

it's a work in progress ...

... a different mall, along Central Rama 2/hwy #35, caters to all

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by KhunLA

[JonnyF]

I have a Camry Hybrid but I wouldn't go full electric yet. The range is too short (it's a 600km round trip to my farm), charging too difficult (I spend weekdays at my condo in Bangkok - no charging devices there) and I am not convinced they are actually good for the environment given the resources required to build them and to produce the electricity to charge them.

 

My next 4 wheeled vehicle will be a truck and I'll be going Diesel. I have nothing against electric vehicles per se but I think the current technology is best suited to smaller vehicles like mountain bikes or scooters. I have an electric mountain bike which I use to ride to the MRT station and it's great for that purpose (short city trips) but the limited range and charging time means that is all I use it for.

 

I quite fancy a Stark Varg or a Sur Ron Ultra Bee for playing around at the farm, but again I wouldn't be selling my ICE dirt bikes.

 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

10 hours ago, BenStark said:

It will be many years before they have recovered the extra they pay for the car in reduced fuel expenses.

 

The same BS propaganda about my electricity is free because I have solar panels.

 

Well yeah, as soon as they have recovered the cost of the installation after 10 years, and it all still works as promised.

And yet, the Neta V comes in cheaper than all entry level Toyota & Mazda cars, so nothing to recover.

 

I charge my EV with 'excess' solar, so no added cost to our system to charge the EV.  IF paying for energy via grid, its <฿230 @ ฿5/kWh for 360 kms vs ฿900 for ICE version @ ฿35/L

[Stargeezr]

If you are in a flood zone, do not own an EV.  They are not very good on handling water on the battery and

connections. Fires can be the result.  When they catch fire, it is not very easy to put out as well.

 I will not be going electric until everything is in order. Charging stations all over, and the batteries 

have to be cheaper. Oh do you know that EVs are very heavy and the maintenance is high because of torque 

issues and worn out parts. Do not let teens drive these EVs for sure. Just my two cents worth of advice.

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

If you are in a flood zone, do not own an EV.  They are not very good on handling water on the battery and

connections. Fires can be the result.  When they catch fire, it is not very easy to put out as well.

 I will not be going electric until everything is in order. Charging stations all over, and the batteries 

have to be cheaper. Oh do you know that EVs are very heavy and the maintenance is high because of torque 

issues and worn out parts. Do not let teens drive these EVs for sure. Just my two cents worth of advice.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by KhunLA

[h90]

15 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Idiots. EV are a dead end. Inefficient due to carrying Hughe battery load around all the time. A dead end because the batteries (like internet speeds) are 'up to'...range is up to 200 km on a charge....batteries last up to 7 years (or maybe only 3 years) then you need a half million baht exchange. who will buy a 3 year old EV car when the battery might give up at any moment....the buyer will have to give a warranty...and the buyer would be a fool to accept a warranty from a private seller. A dead end because what is going to happen to all the toxic dead batteries.....yes I'm sure that in Thailand they will all be perfectly recycled....or a cheaper alternative, fly tipped on waste land with risk to water supplies. Another dead end...cost of electricity and the number of stations with charging facilities in the next few years.

Forget it....buy an ICE, preferably a diesel. Forget this EV and environmental rubbish.

That is all not true anymore...in general people report that the batteries mostly hold well and don't die after a few years...but in the heat in Thailand it might be different.

Batteries are still getting better. If they can gain another 10-20% in capacity/weight than it is a winner and they are per definition more efficient. And recycling shouldn't be a problem as well. If you load them with the solar panels from your house you almost drive for free. Cost of electricity is a political thing....if Thailand buys some nuclear power plants than EV are great.....if not than electric is too high.
The only big problem I see is as higher the energy density as more they tend to explode and that in Europe...how about a 15 year old battery which was all the time in the Thai heat and moisture. Are the becoming bombs?

 

[h90]

13 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

If you are in a flood zone, do not own an EV.  They are not very good on handling water on the battery and

connections. Fires can be the result.  When they catch fire, it is not very easy to put out as well.

 I will not be going electric until everything is in order. Charging stations all over, and the batteries 

have to be cheaper. Oh do you know that EVs are very heavy and the maintenance is high because of torque 

issues and worn out parts. Do not let teens drive these EVs for sure. Just my two cents worth of advice.

unless it is complete waterproof I would not use it in Thailand anyway....alone the moisture and the heat

[alien365]

31% is lower than I expected. I already made the decision 6 months ago to buy a new diesel, so I won't be buying another car for at least 10 years. I'll reassess the situation then.

 

My main concern from all these electric vehicles is that electricity prices will go through the roof as the government increase tax, making up for the loss of tax collection from fuel. My electric bill at home is already way too expensive over the last couple of months in comparison to previous years. 

[Gweiloman]

3 minutes ago, alien365 said:

31% is lower than I expected. I already made the decision 6 months ago to buy a new diesel, so I won't be buying another car for at least 10 years. I'll reassess the situation then.

 

My main concern from all these electric vehicles is that electricity prices will go through the roof as the government increase tax, making up for the loss of tax collection from fuel. My electric bill at home is already way too expensive over the last couple of months in comparison to previous years. 

Yes, electric bills tend to fluctuate with consumption. Strange that…

[KhunLA]

22 minutes ago, h90 said:

unless it is complete waterproof I would not use it in Thailand anyway....alone the moisture and the heat

Our EV battery is rated at IP69K  ... is that good enough for TH?

... that was rhetorical ... don't bother

 

"IP69K means a product is completely dustproof and can withstand washdown at pressures of 80 to 100 bar/1,160 to 1,450 PSI, in phases of 14 to 16 l/min, and at temperatures up to 176°F/80°C."

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, alien365 said:

31% is lower than I expected. I already made the decision 6 months ago to buy a new diesel, so I won't be buying another car for at least 10 years. I'll reassess the situation then.

 

My main concern from all these electric vehicles is that electricity prices will go through the roof as the government increase tax, making up for the loss of tax collection from fuel. My electric bill at home is already way too expensive over the last couple of months in comparison to previous years. 

Electric has gone up about 20%, if that, since I've been here/23 yrs.

Petrol has more than doubled, from ฿14 to ฿35 ... hmm

 

Has only gone up, with the increase of fossil fuels.

[MrMojoRisin]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Too darned right... we oldies were of little importance to the youngsters, with their 'let them die' or 'isolate themselves' attitude during the Covid pandemic.... ..I am buying a new diesel truck!

We’ve seen this before many times. Oldies are scared of change and are always amongst the last to come around.

 

[Gweiloman]

What I find stranger is that people who don’t own an EV or hasn’t even driven one can assert authoritatively about the little (or nothing) they know about the driving and ownership experience of EVs.

 

A common example is how they always focus erroneously on the number of charging stations available. An EV owner knows that this is a non-issue. 

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, Peterphuket said:

People are indoctrinated for the opposite, but I agree with you 100%.

See also all the reactions against you.

Indoctrinated?

How about embracing of change and considerate to the environment and future generations even if it is at the cost of some temporary inconvenience as the technology matures.

 

Selfishness, on the other hand, best describes….