Social Media Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 When asked about the prospects for recovering those onboard, Rear Admiral John Mauger warned "it is an incredibly unforgiving environment on the seafloor" - but underwater robots will continue their search. The five men onboard the missing Titan sub died after the vessel suffered a "catastrophic implosion". Rear Admiral John Mauger - who led the search - confirmed that a remotely operated vehicle had discovered the nose cone of the lost submersible about 487m (1,600ft) from the bow of the Titanic on the seafloor. Further debris was found nearby, with Rear Admiral Mauger adding: "In consultation with experts from within unified command, the debris is consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. "On behalf of US Coast Guard and entire unified command, I offer deepest condolences to the families. I can only imagine what this has been like for them, and I hope this discovery provides some solace during this difficult time." Tributes paid to Titan passengers - latest updates More on this story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post stevenl Posted June 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2023 They're dead on the seafloor at 4000 meters. Please don't spend any effort and money on this. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, stevenl said: They're dead on the seafloor at 4000 meters. Please don't spend any effort and money on this. Oh I donno as long as the estate foots the bill it’s ok by me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tug said: Oh I donno as long as the estate foots the bill it’s ok by me I don't think any estate foots the bill. But it's about more than money. What's the point, except showing off capabilities? Leave them be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted June 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, stevenl said: I don't think any estate foots the bill. But it's about more than money. What's the point, except showing off capabilities? Leave them be Actually, they have spent millions already getting the very specialised equipment to the search area. Sending them home now isn't going to save much money and they might as well spend the time practicing/testing to see if they could actually retrieve the craft using existing tech which is currently an unanswered question should the craft have been found intact. Besides, if they don't retrieve the craft then maybe some enterprising company will start selling tours in future so that wealthy tourists can gawp at the wreckage of the OceanGate Titan. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted June 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2023 some experts on CNN were pointing out this morning that there won't be any remains beyond stray cells and such to recover... no bodies, bones etc. Same probably goes for main bits of the sub. The instantaneous smashing is something we can't imagine. "I've lost two friends in the most horrific way," says search expert David Mearns. It was over so quickly they didn't know what hit them. They may have known the craft was going to break up, hearing creaks and such (per James Cameron), but when it imploded, it was faster than a finger snap. I'd much prefer that to slowly running out of oxygen, which is what most of the pundits thought was going to happen 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 The sudden implosion would’ve compressed and ignited the oxygen, incinerating those inside into ash in a matter of milliseconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, James105 said: Actually, they have spent millions already getting the very specialised equipment to the search area. Sending them home now isn't going to save much money and they might as well spend the time practicing/testing to see if they could actually retrieve the craft using existing tech which is currently an unanswered question should the craft have been found intact. Besides, if they don't retrieve the craft then maybe some enterprising company will start selling tours in future so that wealthy tourists can gawp at the wreckage of the OceanGate Titan. There is no craft left to recover...it disintegrated. Likewise with the people...disintegrated, there will be no bodies or body parts! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I heard one expert, early on in the search, explain the immense pressures at that depth as the equivalent of being beneath an Empire State building made of lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Edited June 23, 2023 by LennyW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 RIP. Well they died doing something they wanted to do. What don't understand is why a submersible vessel goes to a very deep remote part of the ocean without a support ship and without a contactable SOS system. My first thoughts were the Titan got crushed at such depth after numerous previous trips surely it had to be deteriorating over time being exposed to such enormous pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I wonder if their life insurance policies will pay out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, stevenl said: They're dead on the seafloor at 4000 meters. Please don't spend any effort and money on this. If they were your family is that how you would ben thinking? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I do understand the spirit of adventure, and the willingness to take reasonable risks. But, paying big money, to be put in a titanium can, and go somewhere, where the water pressure is enough to crush anything, is beyond bizarre. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I wonder if their life insurance policies will pay out. Why? Wanna start GoFundMe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Almer said: If they were your family is that how you would ben thinking? Yes, why the question? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I wonder if their life insurance policies will pay out. I was wondering the same. I guess it would depend on how they filled out the application. 'pilot of a submersible going to 4000 meters deep' sounds different from 'manager of a tour company '. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 you are 'dead' only after you have been pronounced so by a legal medical practitioner who then issues a Life Extinct Certificate..up until that time, you are 'believed to have died'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 That sucks! But going out thot way was infinitely better than running out of oxygen over the course of 96 hours! R.I.P! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: RIP. Well they died doing something they wanted to do. What don't understand is why a submersible vessel goes to a very deep remote part of the ocean without a support ship and without a contactable SOS system. My first thoughts were the Titan got crushed at such depth after numerous previous trips surely it had to be deteriorating over time being exposed to such enormous pressure. According to previous reports the hull had numerous strain gauges intended to signal defects in the structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Yes, why the question? Just wanted to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Almer said: If they were your family is that how you would ben thinking? YES. Absolutely. Dead is dead. Nothing to be done now. Not like it's unknown what happened to them. Consider it an honorable burial at sea. The Final Frontier on Earth...or whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said: According to previous reports the hull had numerous strain gauges intended to signal defects in the structure. Yeah heard today they reported a problem at 3000 ft and were going to abort the dive and then it went silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Almer said: If they were your family is that how you would ben thinking? If it's the families who are paying millions and millions, then ok. Otherwise, it's public money (at least in the case of the Navy) spent for nothing because they will not find any retrievable body or parts of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, stevenl said: They're dead on the seafloor at 4000 meters. Please don't spend any effort and money on this. I think you will find the families will cover any costs involved. The father and son are quite local to us. They live in a mansion in Surbiton and the father was a billionaire and one of the richest men in Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 So 5 wealthy tourists get crushed on a money burning dumb quest for bragging rights at their country clubs all out search planes subs ships world wide fascination…….how many little kids just got drowned like rats off Greece?the disparity is astounding and sad sorry got no empathy for the rich tourists perhaps for their families but them ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 As low at that vessel went, there are some who even go lower: Conservatives Are Now Blaming The Titanic Sub Tragedy On 'Wokeness' As the U.S. and Canadian governments shelled out funds in the rescue and recovery effort, the media reported on a series of safety concerns that most likely led to the sub going missing. But conservatives had another theory. Could the sub have disappeared because OceanGate’s CEO went “woke”? https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/conservatives-now-blaming-titanic-sub-211749391.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Kwasaki said: RIP. Well they died doing something they wanted to do. Apparently, not all of them: 19-year-old Titan passenger was ‘terrified’ before trip, his aunt says In the days before the Titan vessel went into the ocean off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada, the 19-year-old university student accompanying his father on the expedition expressed hesitation about going, his aunt said in an interview Thursday. Azmeh Dawood — the older sister of Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood — told NBC News that her nephew, Suleman, informed a relative that he "wasn't very up for it" and felt "terrified" about the trip to explore the wreckage of the Titanic. But the 19-year-old ended up going aboard OceanGate's 22-foot submersible because the trip fell over Father's Day weekend and he was eager to please his dad, who was passionate about the lore of the Titanic, according to Azmeh. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/titanic-submersible-shahwood-suleman-family-tragedy-rcna90678 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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