Trump’s dominance of GOP field has America bracing for a toxic campaign

[EVENKEEL]

GOP debates coming up 23 Aug, so far it's 7 candidates who've qualified.

[Hanaguma]

30 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

GOP debates coming up 23 Aug, so far it's 7 candidates who've qualified.

Gonna be a blast! I am thinking Vivek will stir things up. The guy is scary smart and has innovative ideas. Hell, he was worth in excess of $10 million before he graduated from law school! I can see him tearing after DeSantis in particular

 

IMHO Trump is terrified to get on a stage with both Big Chris and Vivek gunning for him. Guarantee he doesn't show up for this one. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Did you particularly like this proposal?

"Ramaswamy argues that the United States should use the military to directly take on Mexican drug cartels and “end the fentanyl epidemic in this country." He has furthermore stated "We can do it to Bin Laden, we can do it to Soleimani, we can do it to the Mexican drug cartels south of the border."[33]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy_2024_presidential_campaign#:~:text=Vivek Ramaswamy%2C an entrepreneur and,J.D. from Yale Law School.

Yes.

[placeholder]

49 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes.

Say what you will about America's recent wars, at least they were far from our borders so massive and prolonged  blowback was impossible for its opponents to accomplish. Can you imagine what the retaliation of enemies who share a very long border would look like? You think American citizens will cheer this incursion even if it means they'll be getting blown up in return? And for what? How can anyone be so fatuous like Ramaswamy  as to believe that drugs are a supply side problem? Any drug. But fentanyl most of all, given how much power it packs into such a very small package. This idea is nuts. Anyone who believes otherwise has learned nothing from the past 50 years about what wars can and cannot accomplish.

Edited July 24, 2023 by placeholder

[Tug]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Gonna be a blast! I am thinking Vivek will stir things up. The guy is scary smart and has innovative ideas. Hell, he was worth in excess of $10 million before he graduated from law school! I can see him tearing after DeSantis in particular

 

IMHO Trump is terrified to get on a stage with both Big Chris and Vivek gunning for him. Guarantee he doesn't show up for this one. 

Is Donnie going to show up?I will watch it just to watch them all cowering in terror of hurting Donnie’s ever so fragile ego that beeing said it will be fun to watch Christie rip him a new one popcorn at the ready also starting a war with Mexico is a stupid idea besides most of the fentanyl comes from China it will be entertaining I’ll give ya that

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Did you particularly like this proposal?

"Ramaswamy argues that the United States should use the military to directly take on Mexican drug cartels and “end the fentanyl epidemic in this country." He has furthermore stated "We can do it to Bin Laden, we can do it to Soleimani, we can do it to the Mexican drug cartels south of the border."[33]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy_2024_presidential_campaign#:~:text=Vivek Ramaswamy%2C an entrepreneur and,J.D. from Yale Law School.

 

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes.

Let's see; you think it's a good idea to commit an act of war against one of our neighbors (one which has a far more legitimate grievance against us, we're providing the guns the cartels use to kill Mexicans) in order to prevent the importation of a drug easily smuggled into the US in any number of ways.

 

Does that sum it up?

[ozimoron]

Electoral support for both candidates runs a few points higher than their underlying favorability ratings. Specifically, 47% of American voters are likely to vote for Biden while 43% have a favorable opinion of him, and 40% are likely to vote for Trump while 36% have a favorable opinion of him.

 

 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4108696-poll-shows-biden-beating-trump-even-if-manchin-runs/

 

[ozimoron]

Joe Biden Carves Out Biggest Lead Over Donald Trump in Six Months: Polls

 

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-carves-out-biggest-lead-over-donald-trump-six-months-poll-1814537

[Yellowtail]

That says a lot more about Biden's presidency than Trump. 

[rudi49jr]

Meanwhile, the economy under Biden isn’t doing too shabby:

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/02/1179621886/jobs-employment-employers-labor-market-economy-recession-inflation
 

“Hiring surged last month as U.S. employers added 339,000 jobs, far above expectations, according to a report from the Labor Department on Friday.

The job gains for March and April were also stronger than previously reported. The April jobs figure was revised up by 41,000, while the March number was revised up by 52,000.

The strong jobs numbers indicate the U.S. jobs engine continues to chug along, with substantial hiring in business services, health care and hospitality.”

[metisdead]

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[placeholder]

8 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Meanwhile, the economy under Biden isn’t doing too shabby:

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/02/1179621886/jobs-employment-employers-labor-market-economy-recession-inflation
 

“Hiring surged last month as U.S. employers added 339,000 jobs, far above expectations, according to a report from the Labor Department on Friday.

The job gains for March and April were also stronger than previously reported. The April jobs figure was revised up by 41,000, while the March number was revised up by 52,000.

The strong jobs numbers indicate the U.S. jobs engine continues to chug along, with substantial hiring in business services, health care and hospitality.”

You don't understand. People don't care whether or not they have jobs when it comes to the economy. They don't care how easy it is to find them.  What they care about is....scratch that.

[ozimoron]

The juxtaposition of using taxpayer money to raid women’s health care while the country faces a raging opioid and fentanyl crisis does not exactly scream 'tough on crime.'"

 

What's more, Corley believes that following this road will inevitably lead Republicans to conclude that women who take abortion pills should be jailed for terminating their own pregnancies, which he said would simply be disastrous politics.

 

"Even a year ago, the idea that a woman would be sent to prison over abortion care would have been brushed off as sensationalist," he writes.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-abortion-2662334507/

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The juxtaposition of using taxpayer money to raid women’s health care while the country faces a raging opioid and fentanyl crisis does not exactly scream 'tough on crime.'"

 

What's more, Corley believes that following this road will inevitably lead Republicans to conclude that women who take abortion pills should be jailed for terminating their own pregnancies, which he said would simply be disastrous politics.

 

"Even a year ago, the idea that a woman would be sent to prison over abortion care would have been brushed off as sensationalist," he writes.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-abortion-2662334507/

No one wants an opinion pieces from Fox, yet you think an opinion piece from left leaning, progressive source will fly.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

No one wants an opinion pieces from Fox, yet you think an opinion piece from left leaning, progressive source will fly.

You don't believe this is the single biggest problem facing the GOP's election prospects?

[Jingthing]

On 7/23/2023 at 1:39 PM, Jingthing said:

What's next from maga fascist DeSantis?

That holocaust survivors learned useful skills?

You almost couldn't make up this slavery was good vocational training absurdity, but heck, it's real.

Personally I think DeSantis has lost the plot and now has no chance of being nominated.

So someone else who isn't maga could step in but probably not. 

Well it came from Fox News instead. If you can imagine it, they will go there!

 

'Ghouls': Fox News blasted for declaring Jews 'survived' the Holocaust by being 'useful' - Alternet.org

 

On the heels of Fox News hosts defending Florida GOP Governor Ron DeSantis‘ new education standards requiring children to be taught slavery was beneficial to slaves, one Fox News host is now saying Jews survived the Holocaust by being “useful.”

[jerrymahoney]

Ron DeSantis allies press for a campaign shake-up
There’s particular scrutiny around campaign manager Generra Peck and whether she’ll hang on to her position.

 

July 19, 2023, 7:40 AM +07
 

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The long knives are out for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ campaign manager amid a cash crunch and flagging poll numbers.

 

Generra Peck, DeSantis’ top aide, is “hanging by a thread,” said a DeSantis donor who is close to the campaign.

 

Some allies communicated themselves or through proxies that they want DeSantis to fire Peck or “layer” her — a less public demotion in which she would have to report to a new boss — according to two more DeSantis allies familiar with discussions around the campaign’s struggles.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ron-desantis-allies-press-campaign-shake-rcna95028

 

[Hanaguma]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well it came from Fox News instead. If you can imagine it, they will go there!

 

'Ghouls': Fox News blasted for declaring Jews 'survived' the Holocaust by being 'useful' - Alternet.org

 

On the heels of Fox News hosts defending Florida GOP Governor Ron DeSantis‘ new education standards requiring children to be taught slavery was beneficial to slaves, one Fox News host is now saying Jews survived the Holocaust by being “useful.”

Except that never happened. Sorry.

 

The FLA curriculum says that slaves learned things during their servitude that later in their life as free citizens were useful. Not that slavery itself was beneficial.  Please stop spreading lies.  Don't believe everything Kamala Harris tells you. 

[EVENKEEL]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well it came from Fox News instead. If you can imagine it, they will go there!

 

'Ghouls': Fox News blasted for declaring Jews 'survived' the Holocaust by being 'useful' - Alternet.org

 

On the heels of Fox News hosts defending Florida GOP Governor Ron DeSantis‘ new education standards requiring children to be taught slavery was beneficial to slaves, one Fox News host is now saying Jews survived the Holocaust by being “useful.”

This goes the way of the don't say gay bill which never says it. Educate yourself with who came up with the curriculum of slavery taught in Fla.

 

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/education/2023/07/25/william-b-allen-florida-black-history-curriculum-denounces-critics-kamala-harris/70461016007/

[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You don't believe this is the single biggest problem facing the GOP's election prospects?

What problem, an article filled with could be's and would be's isn't evidence. Just a dog whistle for the far left who want to believe the worst. Fear is a great seller.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Except that never happened. Sorry.

 

The FLA curriculum says that slaves learned things during their servitude that later in their life as free citizens were useful. Not that slavery itself was beneficial.  Please stop spreading lies.  Don't believe everything Kamala Harris tells you. 

Lies are all they have. 

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You don't believe this is the single biggest problem facing the GOP's election prospects?

I believe the single biggest problem facing the GOP's election prospects is disinformation. 

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The juxtaposition of using taxpayer money to raid women’s health care while the country faces a raging opioid and fentanyl crisis does not exactly scream 'tough on crime.'"

 

What's more, Corley believes that following this road will inevitably lead Republicans to conclude that women who take abortion pills should be jailed for terminating their own pregnancies, which he said would simply be disastrous politics.

 

"Even a year ago, the idea that a woman would be sent to prison over abortion care would have been brushed off as sensationalist," he writes.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-abortion-2662334507/

The left seems to get angry when the right calls it a baby rather than a fetus, but the left wants to call it "women's heath care" when they are talking about abortion. 

 

Carry on

 

 

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left seems to get angry when the right calls it a baby rather than a fetus, but the left wants to call it "women's heath care" when they are talking about abortion. 

 

Carry on

 

 

Total BS. Sorry, but you are so deluded about how Dems think it's actually concerning.

 

Consider this ad for Trump.

 

'Most alarming political ad': Pro-Trump activists release disturbing campaign message

 

https://www.rawstory.com/if-i-was-the-deep-state-pro-trump-activists-release-disturbing-campaign-ad-2662374482/

Edited July 26, 2023 by ozimoron

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Total BS. Sorry, but you are so deluded about how Dems think it's actually concerning.

 

Consider this ad for Trump.

 

'Most alarming political ad': Pro-Trump activists release disturbing campaign message

What I said was: The left seems to get angry when the right calls it a baby rather than a fetus, but the left wants to call it "women's health care" when they are talking about abortion.

 

What does your response have to do with what I said? And to be clear, I never accused Democrats of thinking. 

 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What I said was: The left seems to get angry when the right calls it a baby rather than a fetus, but the left wants to call it "women's health care" when they are talking about abortion.

 

What does your response have to do with what I said? And to be clear, I never accused Democrats of thinking.

You just made my ignore list. I'm done with time wasting trolls.

Edited July 26, 2023 by ozimoron

[rudi49jr]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I believe the single biggest problem facing the GOP's election prospects is disinformation. 

And guess who’s most likely to spread misinformation:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/14/we-found-the-one-group-of-americans-who-are-most-likely-to-spread-fake-news-526973

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

And guess who’s most likely to spread misinformation:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/14/we-found-the-one-group-of-americans-who-are-most-likely-to-spread-fake-news-526973

Not too surprising.  We should also take notice of not just who produces fake news, but who tends to believe it.  I recall reading an article about fake news trolls in Macedonia who had zero political leanings.  They produced fake news for money and in 2016, pushed stories that supported both Hillary and Trump.  But the fake news that helped Trump were much more likely to be believed and shared.  So that's where the money was and that's all they cared about.

[Yellowtail]

20 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You just made my ignore list. I'm done with time wasting trolls.

That's what I thought, thanks! 

[Yellowtail]

20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

And guess who’s most likely to spread misinformation:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/14/we-found-the-one-group-of-americans-who-are-most-likely-to-spread-fake-news-526973

I said nothing of misinformation, please try reading a little more slowly.