6 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

According to his sister ...

81 are Hells Angels. Outlaws are their rivals (AFAIK).

Seems odd that they were working together.

81 as a club is definitely a supporter club of the Hells Angels, but they’re not HA club members. 

Curious that the Thaiger news report here seems to make no mention of the previously reported detail that this Pakistani suspect supposedly had obtained Thai citizenship....  (Sure like to hear the story behind that one...)

 

Meanwhile, for an "innocent" guy, the full news report also contains this pretty incriminating detail:

 

"According to ThaiRath, the owner of a tool shop in Pattaya visited Nong Prue Police Station and reported that Brinkmann and Uddin visited his shop on July 7 and bought an electric saw which was expensive because it worked very quietly."

 

If the Pakistani guy didn't know Olaf was going to kill and dismember the victim, what exactly did he think they were buying the expensive saw for???

 

Gruesome dealings...I hate all this kind of news.

Time for dancing dog videos.

36 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said:

The Article States:

"Shortly thereafter, Uddin’s family, including his father, mother, and older brother, arrived at the police station to meet with him before he was temporarily imprisoned."

 

(How Does That Make Any Sense When You Are Dealing With A Murder Suspect Who Was Clearly Attempting To Flee The Country)(?)

Nothing in that quote does not make sense. What part of it can you not make sense of?

16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Curious that the Thaiger news report here seems to make no mention of the previously reported detail that this Pakistani suspect supposedly had obtained Thai citizenship....  (Sure like to hear the story behind that one...)

Why?  Are Pakistanis a banned nationality when it comes to applying for Thai citizenship? 

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why?  Are Pakistanis a banned nationality when it comes to applying for Thai citizenship? 

Because the official legal requirements for a foreigner to obtain Thai citizenship include:

 

– A person must have lived in Thailand for approximately 5 years and hold their PR permit.
– Individuals must be above the age of 17.
– One should have shown knowledge of the Thai language.
– A person must have not created any offense and have no criminal record.
– A person has Thailand’s work permit.
– One must be able to sing the National Anthem of Thailand.
One must qualify for the test and have to attain 50 points.
One should have to submit all the official documents attached with the application form and specific fees.

 

Do you really think this guy actually could/did meet all those requirements?

 

https://ceoworld.biz/2022/04/11/how-to-obtain-citizenship-in-thailand/

 

I'm really waiting to hear this guy sing the Thai national anthem in Thai language....

 

 

 

Give it up lou you're flogging a dead horse with this citizenship crack, the threads about the family going en masse to clear their Son.

13 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm really waiting to hear this guy sing the Thai national anthem in Thai language....

 

 

 

Maybe part of Thailand's sizeable South Asian community, which is not only of Indian origin. The whole family seem to be quite comfortable dealing with the police and media, possibly in Thai? They say the German woman first contacted them over a business deal so you'd think they're well-established in Thailand.  

2 hours ago, bignok said:

I would too if innocent. You can't trust the system.

I am innocent and i am still here.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Give it up lou you're flogging a dead horse with this citizenship crack, the threads about the family going en masse to clear their Son.

I have nothing against Pakistanis.... I'd be saying the same thing for almost any foreigner nationality, since for most, it's VERY difficult to obtain Thai citizenship, at least, thru normal legal means. And as members here have attested, can often take years to accomplish.

 

BTW, the accused Pakistani here can't be "cleared" by his family.... He'll be cleared, or convicted, by the evidence against him at trial.

 

Thing is they will give their innocence stories and then the CCTV images will incriminate them and so will be caught lying such as Pakistani 

Innocent.Yeah right.

 

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why?  Are Pakistanis a banned nationality when it comes to applying for Thai citizenship? 

Because the official legal requirements for a foreigner to obtain Thai citizenship include:

 

– A person must have lived in Thailand for approximately 5 years and hold their PR permit.
– Individuals must be above the age of 17.
– One should have shown knowledge of the Thai language.
– A person must have not created any offense and have no criminal record.
– A person has Thailand’s work permit.
– One must be able to sing the National Anthem of Thailand.
One must qualify for the test and have to attain 50 points.
One should have to submit all the official documents attached with the application form and specific fees.

 

Do you really think this guy actually could/did meet all those requirements?

I've no idea because I do not know him, and neither do you.   Rationally, what makes you think that someone of whom you know nothing, who has been described by Thai authorities as a Thai citizen, couldn't meet the requirements to be one?

On 7/13/2023 at 9:28 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

Nothing in that quote does not make sense. What part of it can you not make sense of?

Cannot Make Sense Of An Accused Murderer Allowed To Meet With Anyone

& Shortly Thereafter He Came Out With His 'Ignorance & Innocence Plea'

On 7/13/2023 at 8:54 PM, bignok said:

Yes it does.

...I Beg To Differ...An Accused Murderer ...By Law...Has No Right To Meet With Anyone Besides His Lawyer...

1 hour ago, SOTIRIOS said:

On 7/13/2023 at 9:28 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

Nothing in that quote does not make sense. What part of it can you not make sense of?

Cannot Make Sense Of An Accused Murderer Allowed To Meet With Anyone

Why does it "not make sense" that his family was allowed to see him?