Pita ordered to suspend doing his duties as an MP

[bamnutsak]

4 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Phuethai and Anutin are not a big enough majority. 

Yes. They are. With 165 (from 250) Senators.

 

 

[Tom H]

2 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Yes. They are. With 165 (from 250) Senators.

 

 

even more than 165….

[bamnutsak]

1 minute ago, Tom H said:

even more than 165….

That is the minimum I think? Approximately.

 

141 (PTP) + 71 (BJT) = 212

 

375 needed

 

so a minimum of 163 Senators needed. That will be easy I think. There are 249 Senators I think. 

 

 

[transam]

I dare not say what l want to say, but at least the voters know 100% what they are dealing with....????

[khunpa]

Well, just as expected. Back to figuring out what I should order on Grab… maybe a “Pita Sandwich”…

 

Good luck, Thailand! Did anyone really believe they would just let him take the power?

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by khunpa

[kingstonkid]

7 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Yes. They are. With 165 (from 250) Senators.

 

 

To get a person named PM, maybe but what can they do in the house once they get it and will Anutin play second fiddle gain.  The challenge is not getting your person as PM it is about getting your party in power and being able to stay in power.  PT dropping MFP opens them up to be the loyal opposition and would hurt them n the long run.  Siding with Anutin is almost as bad as siding with the military.

 

 

[WHansen]

36 minutes ago, JayBird said:

I missed the explanation of why he did not get rid of those shares before running.

 

Could someone clue me in there

Reading the daily papers helps

[Tom H]

15 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Phuethai and Anutin are not a big enough majority.  Once all the smoke settles and the government has gotten settled If they join together I would expect a vote of NO confidence by MFP or whatever the party name is.

 

Any joining with Anutin would hurt the PT considerably.  The only way for PT to survive at all is to stay with the coalition as it stands and make nice with MFP. 

 

You must count to 375 and Pheu Thai plus Bhumjaithai and some smallers plus 250-13 S are over 375. Even in parliament they are not „minor“. 

 

Thats the problem of many people. Counting.

[sammieuk1]

The collapse of a country is neigh man the shipping containers ????

[tomacht8]

Soon embassies will issue warnings to tourists not to be in public places in Bangkok.  Tricked out the will of 2/3 of the Thai population. Now this can end badly.

[kingstonkid]

11 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Yes. They are. With 165 (from 250) Senators.

 

 

Againthe issue is ot becoming PM or party in power it is about can you govern when the MFP has more seats and will be looking for a chance to vote NO CONFIDENCE.  Also can they then expect their followers that hate the military to vote for them in the next election.

[IamNoone88]

27 minutes ago, Snig27 said:

Do you really think that's the reason? That's at best very naive. In 2006 it was a cooking show. In 2014 it was a minor shift of an official years before. 

These are all establishment excuses for judicial coups. 

Its the current law in place and it got leverage. Could have been avoided.

[Dialemco]

Money talks he has been elected on a manifesto unacceptable to the establishment.

[onthedarkside]

Off topic troll post reported and removed along with a reply. This topic is not about Biden or any US politics

[Callmeishmael]

38 minutes ago, JayBird said:

I missed the explanation of why he did not get rid of those shares before running.

 

Could someone clue me in there

I may be wrong, so maybe someone can correct this, but I believe that shares in a company that has been delisted (no longer traded on the stock market) cannot be traded or sold.  He can give someone the shares, but until the transaction is officially recorded, he is still considered to be the legal owner.

[IamNoone88]

22 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

do u really think that, come on, they would have found something else, it was a losing situation from the moment he start to put forward his intentions of making changes.... the "old" crocs here don't like and will not allow changes as it would have hurt their pockets/status, asian mentality it's complete different then westerner, here the main concern it's me and me, myself and I, the rest, country/people, it's not important

He gave it to them on a silver plate. I like the guy but he threw it away on defunct shares that he knowlingly held ... even after the previous guy was cancelled for the very same thing.

[anchadian]

Now the happy clown:

1/2) Phalang Pracharath member Ruangkrai Leekitwattana said Weds at parliament it's time for Pita to leave parliament as the Constitutional Court has suspended Pita from his duty as PM pending the ruling on whether he lacks qualifications to be an MP due to ITV shareholding.

(2/2) Ruangkrai was the person who initiated the petition which first went to the Election Commission

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1681556493160824834

[Hamus Yaigh]

It doesn't matter about the shares in a worthless company he didn't even buy but were a hand me down. It could have been anything. There's more to it than that. The dinosaurs will always stop him until the dinosaurs become extinct.

[Tom H]

9 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

That is the minimum I think? Approximately.

 

141 (PTP) + 71 (BJT) = 212

 

375 needed

 

so a minimum of 163 Senators needed. That will be easy I think. There are 249 Senators I think. 

 

 

That was clear for the strategists since months.

You are 100% right.

 

 

[khunpeer]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

 

Pita ordered to suspend doing his duties as an MP temporarily, as Charter Court accepts Election Commission’s petition seeking verification of Pita’s status vis a vis his iTV shareholding.

 

Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/breaking-news/

 

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why am I not surprised! how convenient is this ruling, just on this day!

let PheuThai do their thing until next election and then come back, better prepared!

[kingstonkid]

3 minutes ago, Tom H said:

You must count to 375 and Pheu Thai plus Bhumjaithai and some smallers plus 250-13 S are over 375. Even in parliament they are not „minor“. 

 

Thats the problem of many people. Counting.

PT and BJT have only 212 (141+71) seats in the house 

 

MFP has 151  dems 25 utn 36 PPP 40 total of 252 votes

 

Therefore while the PT may have a Prime minister they still do not have the full power as a majority government.  

If you consider that one of the unspoken goals is to get Thaksin home then that becomes a non starter.

 

Parties have to consider the big picture.  The senate can not save you in the house if you do not have the support of the house.  

[Tom H]

12 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

To get a person named PM, maybe but what can they do in the house once they get it and will Anutin play second fiddle gain.  The challenge is not getting your person as PM it is about getting your party in power and being able to stay in power.  PT dropping MFP opens them up to be the loyal opposition and would hurt them n the long run.  Siding with Anutin is almost as bad as siding with the military.

 

 

They find other parties representing 25 M voters who are against a change in chapter 112 for example. Even a minority government is possible and can be managed with dekrets similar C-times.

 

I see a majority apart from MF.

 

And PheuThai even get the ticket to bring someone home. PheuThai wont go on streets.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Tom H

[bradiston]

47 minutes ago, JayBird said:

I missed the explanation of why he did not get rid of those shares before running.

 

Could someone clue me in there

Badly advised is my only guess.

[Kaopad999]

31 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

it's complete different then westerner, here the main concern it's me and me, myself and I, the rest, country/people, it's not important

Yup that is the mentality of the Thai

[BarraMarra]

Any protests will be put down quickly there was never going to be a fair Election and anyone who thought there would only have to look at what happened to Thaksin and anyone wanting Democracy. Your threatened your family is threatened and you have to leave the Country. Funny that the day before a vote one of the main pretenders is silenced.

[kingstonkid]

5 minutes ago, Tom H said:

They find other parties representing 25 M voters who are against a change in chapter 112 for example. And PheuThai even get the ticket to bring someone home. PheuThai wont go on streets.

The only way they can be saved is by the military parties.  Not a good move when the next election happens also any coalition that includes the MFP is going to scare the money people so it is gong to be interesting.  Most of the military hate tthaksin as well remember it was them that charged him.

 

Art 112 is a red herring it is everything else that they wanted to do with the draft, the budget for the military and taxation.  That is the reason that they are against the MFP.  Amendments to Art 112 would never have passed in the House and the Senate could have made mincemeat out of it.  The problem with MFP is the military and old money power brokers were going to lose power.

Edited July 19, 2023 by kingstonkid

[bradiston]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Now the happy clown:

1/2) Phalang Pracharath member Ruangkrai Leekitwattana said Weds at parliament it's time for Pita to leave parliament as the Constitutional Court has suspended Pita from his duty as PM pending the ruling on whether he lacks qualifications to be an MP due to ITV shareholding.

(2/2) Ruangkrai was the person who initiated the petition which first went to the Election Commission

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1681556493160824834

He's wrong, of course. Pita can still stand as PM. The Pheu Thai leader stopped Pita leaving the chamber, to advise him he didn't need to leave. Nothing like a common enemy to unite people. If ever there was a 5th columnist, he is right up there.

[billd766]

49 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

once again Thailand lost any bit credibility left with the international community and would become the laughing stock

But they still have friends in Myanmar, Russia, China and perhaps N Korea.

[Callmeishmael]

This is the opportunity that PT has been waiting for.   After shedding a few crocodile tears they will form a new coalition.   I bet it will be PT + BJT + PPP and maybe Prayuth's party, though just those first 3 will give them a slim majority in Parliament.

[anchadian]