Social Media Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Amid blistering heatwaves, July is "virtually certain" to be the world's warmest month on record, say scientists. So hot has the month been to date that researchers are confident the 2019 record will be broken, even with several days to go. UN chief Antonio Guterres said the planet is entering an "era of global boiling". Scientists agree the extra heat is mainly linked to fossil fuel use. US President Joe Biden described climate change as an "existential threat" and that no one "can deny the impact of climate change anymore". Some experts believe that July might well be the warmest month in the past 120,000 years. Will the Gulf Stream really collapse by 2025? Greta Thunberg fined over Swedish climate protest July heat near 'impossible' without climate change FULL STORY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 The facts debunk this report as false... the 1930's were far hotter... the 1970's were far cooler... 5 1 3 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: The facts debunk this report as false... the 1930's were far hotter... the 1970's were far cooler... You should take your case to NASA, they disagree, but then they have science behind them. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/global-temperatures 2 2 2 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: The facts debunk this report as false... the 1930's were far hotter... the 1970's were far cooler... Rules of the forum require that you back up any factual claims to a credible source. I'll be waiting but I won't hold my breath 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Wasn't that hot in Chiang Mai this year, about normal IMHO. Only turned aircon on once. My Electricity bill for July = 43 units 176bht. Edited July 28, 2023 by BritManToo 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RPCVguy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Planetary wide temperature averages have basically run between 14ºC and 16ºC through the Interglacial peaks of the last 800,000 years of Ice Ages. They also look to have remained below 18ºC for the last 5.3 million years. Those broad scale planetary average can be viewed in this first graph, taken from the latest paper by James Hansen (and 16 other climate scientists.) See: PipelinePaper.2023.07.05.pdf This should add concerns to the way Earth neared 17ºC in the La Nina to neutral year of 2022, and have now spent nearly all of July 2023 ABOVE 17ºC. We are rapidly leaving the Holocene conditions that life on Earth has currently evolved to be supported by.https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/ _________________________________ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Believe it or not . up to you But read it anyway. Too much get blamed on the modern way of life , Scaring people. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/hasnt-earth-warmed-and-cooled-naturally-throughout-history 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, digger70 said: Believe it or not . up to you But read it anyway. Too much get blamed on the modern way of life , Scaring people. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/hasnt-earth-warmed-and-cooled-naturally-throughout-history What is it about you denialists of the existence human-caused warming that seems to make you incapable of understanding that the issue isn't change per se, but rather the accelerated rate of change.? 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharp Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 The fact they relocated many monitors to ground level from the previous 2 meter minimum height tells u everything about this BS!! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 Same people in the UK moaning about Climate change and high temperatures are probably the same people moaning about paying too much for gas as its too cold ! 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sharp said: The fact they relocated many monitors to ground level from the previous 2 meter minimum height tells u everything about this BS!! It doesn't tell us where you got that story. Source please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Waiting on the world’s top polluter (to the north) to make the first substantial move….. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 hours ago, placeholder said: What is it about you denialists of the existence human-caused warming that seems to make you incapable of understanding that the issue isn't change per se, but rather the accelerated rate of change.? I can only speak for myself, but there are so many parameters that need to change if anyone REALLY wants to slow down the changes. The main factor is a population of 8 billion people and rising. The next factor is the consumption strategy of capitalism - buy as much as you can (and take loans if you can't afford it) so the economy can grow. Another stupid scheme was the selling of carbon rights which made some people very rich and contributed nothing to the reduction of co2. So all these articles and facts have no real effect on the situation 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LukKrueng Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Social Media said: Some experts believe that July might well be the warmest month in the past 120,000 years. I'm pretty sure I've read on other sources 120 years, not 120k years. Who has any records from 120k years ago? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, LukKrueng said: I'm pretty sure I've read on other sources 120 years, not 120k years. Who has any records from 120k years ago? Science not your thing then. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Same people in the UK moaning about Climate change and high temperatures are probably the same people moaning about paying too much for gas as its too cold ! But then again they might not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, heybruce said: It doesn't tell us where you got that story. Source please. Don't hold your breath while waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, LukKrueng said: I'm pretty sure I've read on other sources 120 years, not 120k years. Who has any records from 120k years ago? Those who have the ice cores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, gamb00ler said: Those who have the ice cores. 15 hours ago, LukKrueng said: I'm pretty sure I've read on other sources 120 years, not 120k years. Who has any records from 120k years ago? https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/ Edited July 29, 2023 by gamb00ler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 22 hours ago, placeholder said: What is it about you denialists of the existence human-caused warming that seems to make you incapable of understanding that the issue isn't change per se, but rather the accelerated rate of change.? What is it about you that you don't understand that there's no proof as yet that the global warming is accelerated by the course of man. Some say it is others say it's not . You can believe what you like just don't say that people are incapable of understanding some things. I can say same but you wouldn't like it Do You? Have a nice day and be Quiet. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 A few May’s ago, 2019? 10 days in a row 43 degrees Celsius. This July was pleasant in comparison 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Sharp said: The fact they relocated many monitors to ground level from the previous 2 meter minimum height tells u everything about this BS!! And not to at airports surrounded by asphalt and concrete ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, digger70 said: What is it about you that you don't understand that there's no proof as yet that the global warming is accelerated by the course of man. Some say it is others say it's not . You can believe what you like just don't say that people are incapable of understanding some things. I can say same but you wouldn't like it Do You? Have a nice day and be Quiet. Who says it isn't being accelerated by "man" and what are their qualifications? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, novacova said: And not to at airports surrounded by asphalt and concrete ???? What evidence or sources do you have that show the temperature measurements are not correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novacova Posted July 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 8:31 AM, Skipalongcassidy said: The facts debunk this report as false... the 1930's were far hotter... the 1970's were far cooler... How dare you say such things, don’t you know it will incite hysterical hissy fits of the greenywokiet@rdzies where the belief of solar cycles have no place in that reality and where only skewed political science can exist! 3 2 1 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, digger70 said: What is it about you that you don't understand that there's no proof as yet that the global warming is accelerated by the course of man. Some say it is others say it's not . You can believe what you like just don't say that people are incapable of understanding some things. I can say same but you wouldn't like it Do You? Have a nice day and be Quiet. Not only no proof its happening ............. but no proof it would be a bad thing, and no proof it could be changed. But why the alarmists would attack us for our beliefs (+ or -) is not understandable, as there's nothing you or I could do to change anything that the global elites choose to do. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, heybruce said: What evidence or sources do you have that show the temperature measurements are not correct? What evidence source do you have that shows temperature measurements are not affected by asphalt and concrete? Good grief, get off it already ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, novacova said: What evidence source do you have that shows temperature measurements are not affected by asphalt and concrete? Good grief, get off it already ???? You were the one that brought asphalt and concrete, where did you get that info from that they are included when taking Global temperatures? Where do global temperature data come from? Modern observations mostly come from weather stations, weather balloons, radars, ships and buoys, and satellites. https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/35/where-do-global-temperature-data-come-from/ Explainer: How do scientists measure global temperature? To get a complete picture of Earth’s temperature, scientists combine measurements from the air above land and the ocean surface collected by ships, buoys and sometimes satellites, too. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-do-scientists-measure-global-temperature/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, digger70 said: What is it about you that you don't understand that there's no proof as yet that the global warming is accelerated by the course of man. Some say it is others say it's not . You can believe what you like just don't say that people are incapable of understanding some things. I can say same but you wouldn't like it Do You? Have a nice day and be Quiet. Even now, you don't acknowledge that it's about rate of change. Instead you deflect by offering the blatantly false assertion that there's no proof etc.. The overwhelming consensus of climatologists is that your claim is nonsense. So why is it that you can't see the difference between change and rate of change? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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