Would you ever marry a bar girl? If so, why?

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Mortal sin ..........no chance of heaven for you.

Everyone sins. That's why Jesus sacrificed himself to save us, to give us a chance to repent before we die. God knows our hearts, and our actions are because we chose to do whatever we want. Some don't care about consequences, some are afraid of them, but still do bad things. I know I'm going to heaven when I die, because I have a good heart, and believe in God no matter what <deleted> happens in my life. I don't use women, and always have wanted a relationship with a woman. I've made bad choices based on attraction, and live to regret it, especially here. The older you get, the closer you are to passing. I've been a bodybuilder for 50 years, but am not near in the shape I was when I was 50. Still lean strong and fast, but my joints hurt all the time because I overworked them. I've been humbled for quite awhile now, and hate  what goes on in this world, and question God all the time, but when you consider you only live to 85 years or so, that's nothing compared to forever. I know you don't believe,or at least you say you don't, so you may just blow this off, but your kids want to know you. That's a fact. If you don't care, then nothing can be done, but if you make the first move, you might be surprised what happens. Your daughter came to Chiang Mai. There's a reason she did. That was your chance, but there's always a chance unless you simply don't care. Again, why give so much care for this one here and nothing for the other ones? They aren't your ex wife. they are individuals, and damaged. Up to you to help them before you go.

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I know I'm going to heaven when I die, because I have a good heart, and believe in God no matter what <deleted> happens in my life.

God doesn't care about your 'good heart', although your divorcing 3 mentally ill women seems to suggest not that good, remember your oath before God .... sickness and health, etc.

God cares about you following his rules, although I'm hoping for a bit of wiggle room on my divorce as I opposed it and was divorced against my consent.

 

Anyway back on topic,

Jesus seemed OK with having a hooker as a bestie.

If that was good enough for Jesus, why not marry a bar girl.

[fredwiggy]

It's not having a good heart. God knows your heart, meaning what you really feel. In sickness and in health doesn't mean their cheating, abusing, kidnapping your child, addiction to painkillers and the behavior from it, but having a disease they're suffering from. Narcissism isn't really curable, even if they want it to happen. Why are you hoping for some wiggle room if you don't believe in God anyway?

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's not having a good heart. God knows your heart, meaning what you really feel. In sickness and in health doesn't mean their cheating, abusing, kidnapping your child, addiction to painkillers and the behavior from it, but having a disease they're suffering from. Narcissism isn't really curable, even if they want it to happen. Why are you hoping for some wiggle room if you don't believe in God anyway?

Deathbed confession, just in case.

Which is totally allowable if you've managed to avoid 'mortal sins'.

 

PS. wedding vows, no mention of a free pass for incurable illness (as far as I can see).

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Deathbed confession, just in case.

Which is totally allowable if you've managed to avoid 'mortal sins'.

 

PS. wedding vows, no mention of a free pass for incurable illness (as far as I can see).

I did say repent. I know what I've done isn't what he intended. That's why I'm still trying my best to be a good partner, hoping the present one is the one. I like the idea of marriage, and do what I'm supposed to. Maybe I should have stayed with the one wife I had. She died last year from a heart attack, and I'm positive the medication she was on for many years before I met her was to blame. This one in Thailand is a narcissist, abusive, a liar and a cheat. She did things that would have landed her in jail in the US, or gotten her killed by someone less restrained.  And do you know when you're going to pass? No one does, and always assume it might be tomorrow instead of today. I think about it all the time, especially seeing all these actors and musicians from my time period passing daily.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 8/5/2023 at 8:15 AM, bob smith said:

Would you ever marry a bar girl

World wide, across the planet all females are bar girls, bloody stupid if they're not.

 

I've encouraged my daughter's to be gold diggers. 

Find a wealthy guy. 

 

 

Look at the Thailand bar girls, for God's sake, what beautiful, attractive woman would want an old, fat, smelly, man inside and on top of them. 

A beautiful woman needs rewarding, she needs to be well remunerated.

 

I miss being back at school, school girls so stupid, due to pier pressure they get involved with boys, get a boyfriend and start having sex, giving it away for free, school boys getting it for NOTHING, wish I was back at school, free sex. 

 

[bob smith]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I've encouraged my daughter's to be gold diggers. 

In that case, you are a bad father.

 

Sorry to say.

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, bob smith said:

In that case, you are a bad father.

 

Sorry to say.

Explain, give your reason, I've opened up, gave my thoughts 

[bob smith]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Explain 

its not for me to explain. You should already know yourself.

[SAFETY FIRST]

6 minutes ago, bob smith said:

its not for me to explain. You should already know yourself.

Oh, OK, your antagonizing me. 

 

BTW, you should be sorry for calling me a bad father, you don't know me, you know nothing about me. 

 

If I knew you I would get you to talk with my children, they would educate you. 

 

Lots of people in this world, full of talk but nothing to back it up, full of hot air and worthless chat 

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

World wide, across the planet all females are bar girls, bloody stupid if they're not.

 

I've encouraged my daughter's to be gold diggers. 

For God's sake, what beautiful, attractive woman would want an old, fat, smelly, man inside and on top of them. 

A beautiful woman needs rewarding, she needs to be well remunerated.

 

I miss being back at school, school girls so stupid, due to pier pressure they get involved with boys, get a boyfriend and start having sex, giving it away for free, school boys getting it for NOTHING, wish I was back at school, free sex. 

 

Do you not realize there are millions of women who are gold diggers that have old,smelly, fat men inside them every day? Teaching a woman to be independent and about the actions of men is the best thing a father can do. Then the girl can find a man that wants her for her, not her money, and she, being independent, doesn't have to settle with the before mentioned kind, but with a man that's like minded, and looks at her as a partner and not an object to be inside. School girls give it away for many reasons, mainly to be like their other clueless peers, or not having a father that at least tries to teach their daughters how boys are. Not that they'll listen because a lot of girls feel the need to fit in. Some smart ones go to higher education, not wasting their time with boys, who not only don't understand how to please a girl, but to stay when and if a child is made. Teaching your children to be gold diggers, users, is teaching them to give their bodies to only the rich, who largely think they are entitled, and are more likely to look for outside attention.

[SAFETY FIRST]

13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Do you not realize there are millions of women who are gold diggers that have old,smelly, fat men inside them every day? Teaching a woman to be independent and about the actions of men is the best thing a father can do. Then the girl can find a man that wants her for her, not her money, and she, being independent, doesn't have to settle with the before mentioned kind, but with a man that's like minded, and looks at her as a partner and not an object to be inside. School girls give it away for many reasons, mainly to be like their other clueless peers, or not having a father that at least tries to teach their daughters how boys are. Not that they'll listen because a lot of girls feel the need to fit in. Some smart ones go to higher education, not wasting their time with boys, who not only don't understand how to please a girl, but to stay when and if a child is made. Teaching your children to be gold diggers, users, is teaching them to give their bodies to only the rich, who largely think they are entitled, and are more likely to look for outside attention.

I've got many friends, balding, overweight, uneducated guys who are always complaining about gold diggers. 

 

I enjoy watching the pretty girl ignoring average Joe, she's beautiful, why settle for a guy, no money, no looks, no personality. 

 

I'm outnumbered here, I'd say many members here are how I described above, old, fat, smelly, no looks, no money or personality. 

 

These type, bloody losers guys, no ambition in life, not bothered trying to improve their looks, by losing weight, getting fit, they just whing and moan. 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Mortal sin ..........no chance of heaven for you.

Using condoms/contraception also a mortal sin, "thou shall not kill".

 

So that's two 'mortal sins' you've confessed to on this page of this thread.

Sins are sins, all are meant to cause pain. One might be worse than others, but all are sins. Using contraceptions are a way of not bringing children into this world you don't want to raise. Sex happens because we are animals that think we need it. Using birth control is a necessity if you don't have the financial means or desire to be responsible for the children you make.

[fredwiggy]

17 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I've got many friends, balding, overweight, uneducated guys who are always complaining about gold diggers. 

 

I enjoy watching the pretty girl ignoring average Joe, she's beautiful, why settle for a guy, no money, no looks, no personality. 

 

I'm outnumbered here, I'd say many members here are how I described above 

The average Joe just might be the one a normal woman needs. Everyone needs money, but it's not necessary to be rich to have a good marriage. Looks are what first attracts a normal non gold digger woman. Cash and assets are what attracts a gold digger, meaning she will sleep with anyone who has enough money to buy her "things". Things which all wear out, break and not last. Only a stupid girl goes for just money. Yes, they might have more of those "things" than her friends, and many people, but does she have a trustworthy, loving, non abusive, non cheating, non addicted partner to take care of her? No, she has someone who will buy her things to feed her user ego, and she'll never be happy with things. No one is, unless they also have a good partner that will always be there when those things wear out and can't be replaced someday.                                                  A good personality can come from any income level, but finding one with a good personality is still hard.                                    As far as thinking you know what kind of people are on this forum, only guesses can be made. No matter what anyone says here, you still don't know them. If they are consistently replying the same way, you can assume they are that way in real life, but still only assume. Granted,most retirees are older men, but not all are bald, which means nothing, as many women like bald men. They might be fat, but most people of retiree age have extra fat when they get older. Some have been fat all their lives. Some get lazier and add weight from inactivity.Some are like me, who have maintained a lean body all their lives. As far as uneducated, that's another thing you can't tell from replies, unless they are consistently wrong, which a normal person wouldn't do intentionally.                                  I don't care at all about gold diggers. I wouldn't go with one even if I was a millionaire. Money doesn't buy what I've been looking for. Character isn't bought, it's the way people already are. People that whine about how their life is because they don't take care of themselves have only themselves to blame. A man can be fat and still be a good, loving man. A man can be fit and be an <deleted>. Character again, is what makes a normal woman attracted, along with humor, attention to detail and being a good listener.

[bob smith]

27 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Lots of people in this world, full of talk but nothing to back it up, full of hot air and worthless chat 

You talking about yourself then?

 

Judging by your ramblings here I think you fit your own description perfectly! 

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, bob smith said:

You talking about yourself there?

 

Judging by your ramblings here I think you fit your own description perfectly! 

No second prizes. 

 

You can't defend your criticism but you keep offending other members. 

 

Like I said, worthless chat from you 

[bob smith]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Like I said, worthless chat from you

You've lost the plot dude.

 

Jog on.

[fredwiggy]

28 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, OK, your antagonizing me. 

 

BTW, you should be sorry for calling me a bad father, you don't know me, you know nothing about me. 

 

If I knew you I would get you to talk with my children, they would educate you. 

 

Lots of people in this world, full of talk but nothing to back it up, full of hot air and worthless chat 

You may not be a bad father, but teaching your daughters to be gold diggers is bad behavior on your part.

[SAFETY FIRST]

Just now, bob smith said:

You've lost the plot dude.

 

Jog on.

Oh well, another fake poster, not willing to discuss, you just want to be hostile and antagonize 

[bob smith]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh well, another fake poster, not willing to discuss, you just want to be hostile and antagonize 

Playing the victim much??

 

You are awfully sensitive. 

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh well, another fake poster, not willing to discuss, you just want to be hostile and antagonize 

Another thing that's true. You can teach your daughters all about men, how they all want just sex, and finding a good one that will stay is almost impossible, that you must find one that is working, has a good future lined up, that went to college etc etc. Fact remains, you can't tell another person who to be attracted to. it isn't a choice. They can love their dads more than anything, know what he says is true, but still fall for a drug addicted, non employed, abusive dickhead that only looks at them as meat. They have to learn by themselves, and sometimes that means the hard way.

[bob smith]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Another thing that's true. You can teach your daughters all about men, how they all want just sex, and finding a good one that will stay is almost impossible, that you must find one that is working, has a good future lined up, that went to college etc etc. Fact remains, you can't tell another person who to be attracted to. it isn't a choice. They can love their dads more than anything, know what he says is true, but still fall for a drug addicted, non employed, abusive dickhead that only looks at them as meat. They have to learn by themselves, and sometimes that means the hard way.

Good post Fred. You seem rather enlightened which is sadly quite the novelty around these parts..

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Another thing that's true. You can teach your daughters all about men, how they all want just sex, and finding a good one that will stay is almost impossible, that you must find one that is working, has a good future lined up, that went to college etc etc. Fact remains, you can't tell another person who to be attracted to. it isn't a choice. They can love their dads more than anything, know what he says is true, but still fall for a drug addicted, non employed, abusive dickhead that only looks at them as meat. They have to learn by themselves, and sometimes that means the hard way.

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Good post Fred. You seem rather enlightened which is sadly quite the novelty around these parts

Like I said earlier, I'm OUT NUMBERED. 

 

Too many loser guys here moaning, not being accountable, just whinging and whining 

[bob smith]

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Too many loser guys here moaning, not being accountable, just whinging and whining 

YOU are the one who is antagonizing. YOU are the one who is being abusive. 

 

Take a long, hard look in the mirror.

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Good post Fred. You seem rather enlightened which is sadly quite the novelty around these parts..

Been there. I have one daughter who went through a few older boyfriends that used her to rob others. I constantly told her these older men were just using her, that they didn't care about her at all, but she wouldn't listen. She finally got caught and spent some time. When she got out, she found a good guy. A man who was married before, to a drug addicted (to this day) wife, and he received custody after the divorce and her being busted. He is a hard worker, in AC, and is pretty laid back, different to the abusive morons she wasted her time with. I asked her why she didn't say they were abusive to her. She told me she knew I would find them and beat them down (actually worse). Other children I raised found better partners, or at least ones that didn't intentionally hurt them, and they are doing well in life. I had primary custody of all of my children besides one.

[SAFETY FIRST]

My loser, fat, balding, smelly, no personality friends reply with the same hostility and anger when we have the same conversation. 

 

I reckon it's a mental health issue, lonely guys, average Joe's, can't get the pretty girls 

[bob smith]

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

My loser, fat, balding, smelly friends reply with the same hostility and anger when we have the same conversation. 

Friends? You mean you actually have some?

 

Judging by your attitude i'm guessing it would be like pulling teeth being in your presence.. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Friends? You mean you actually have some?

 

Judging by your attitude i'm guessing it would be like pulling teeth being in your presence.. 

Mate, I call a spade a spade.

Not a fake molecule in me. 

 

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Mate, I call a spade a spade, not a fake molecule in me. 

So do I.

 

And you didn't like it when I did...

 

You can give it but you can't take it, right?

[fredwiggy]

13 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Like I said earlier, I'm OUT NUMBERED. 

 

Too many loser guys here moaning, not being accountable, just whinging and whining 

I'm not sure who it is you're referring to. Some here have said it's not a good idea to marry a bar girl, with intelligent replies, and others have said it's okay, and if they are happy, that's fine. We can't be the ones who judge them because we don't live with these girls. There are normal women who come from good families that take advantage of men and are greedy, a lot because they think there is a standard way of living they need to conform to, a lot because of media or peer pressure. They think it's okay to use men, although deep down that's not the way they were raised. Then there are bar girls that only did it for a very short time, and were hoping to find a prince to sweep them off their feet and give them a future, and they found it. Then there are those that have been with many men, and will never look at their partner as anything but a more permanent john. Everyone has to live with their choices. I've made some bad ones based on attraction that have hurt me and gotten me stuck in a place I don't want to be, at least for the time being. Only thing you can do is move on.