How much does a Retirement Home cost in Thailand?

[kiteman9]

4 hours ago, pomchop said:

How long is a piece of string?

AHH Dollar three eighty

[Dene16]

26 minutes ago, honcho said:

Im from NZ its free there too, free to be on a waiting list for months or years.. better pay in Thailand than die waiting in nz or uk

Hip replacements(UK) 5 years ago were normally diagnosed and completed within 3 months.

This was probably due to the fact that most were elderly patient's and they obviously need some comfort and mobility in their few lasting years. I should also mention that if needed it is extremely painful

The waiting list is now 2 years+ of pain and being immobile.

Only option is 9/12k UK pounds to have it done by the same surgeons privately in the same hospital 

 

[ezzra]

4 hours ago, still kicking said:

Health care for Farangs? What a heap of BS I get it free in my country, who writes that nonsense?

I think you missed the whole point of the OP just to show how clever you are.

[Lacessit]

39 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

And you are not correct about that either! Read the 2nd page of a TM7

 

'APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION IN PERSON WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF HANDICAPPED PATIENTS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES'

 

I was once refused a visa extension by Chiang Mai Immigration, when I had a medical certificate, and was forced to do a border bounce instead.

So who decides who is handicapped and disabled?

Show me where staff of a retirement home can enable an able-bodied retiree to evade the in person requirement, or is this another corruption example?

Edited August 14, 2023 by Lacessit

[XJPSX]

2 hours ago, Moonlover said:

The article is about care homes, not health care! Have you ever looked into the cost of care homes in your (precious) home country?

Put mum and dad in a home 3 years ago. $800k deposit for each of them and $54.00 per day each.

Thats in Australia…and they both don’t stop whinging how crap the food is and all staff (and chef) are Indian.

 

[Bundooman]

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

a LOT

And then you are faced with, "Medical Insurance claim denied, Pre-existing condition". 

Or some other, vague, trumped up excuse.

Then, try getting justice from the authorities. Costly to pursue, I would imagine. 

Good luck with that and you still have your medical problem, untreated and even more expensive!

I doubt there is a good affordable Medical insurance scheme for most people here.

Let alone those over 70s.

[jaideedave]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Ageing is an inevitable part of our life cycle. And as you reach your golden years, planning for retirement becomes increasingly important. If you have set your sights on spending your retirement in Thailand, understanding the cost of a retirement home should be a priority. The beauty of Thailand extends beyond gorgeous landscapes and rich culture; it also offers a range of high-quality elderly care options.

 

Below, we’ve broken down the various costs associated with your potential future home – retirement

 

Why choose to retire in Thailand?

 

PHOTO: By gpointstudio via Freepik

Choosing to retire in Thailand is a decision favoured by many retirees around the world, and it’s easy to see why. For many, the low cost of living is a clear draw. Your money will go much further in Thailand compared to other (Western) countries such as the US and UK, allowing for a more comfortable lifestyle.

 

Combined with a high quality of life illuminated by friendly locals and pleasant weather, it becomes the more attractive option. The welcoming environment is such that you can live comfortably even without being fluent in the local language, although basic Thai can certainly enhance the experience.

Healthcare, an important consideration for anyone retiring, in Thailand is highly regarded worldwide. Receiving top-notch medical treatment at a cost significantly lower than in your home country makes it an appealing prospect. 

 

There’s also a myriad of retirement homes spread across the country, providing you with a choice of locations. Whether it’s the bustling streets of Bangkok or the tranquil shores of Phuket, you have the freedom to choose a retirement home that best suits your needs and preferences. These retirement homes also have a team of English-speaking staff ready to ensure your stay is comfortable and hassle-free.

 

In essence, the warmth and simplicity of Thailand’s charm, notably decent healthcare, more affordable living costs, and the friendliness of its people make it a first-class retirement destination. Here, you’re not just retiring; you’re embracing a lifestyle that is better for your health, wallet, and spirit.

 

by Thaiger 

TOP PHOTO: By Lifestylememory via Freepik

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/guides/retire-in-thailand/how-much-does-a-retirement-home-cost-in-thailand

 

-- © Copyright Thaiger 2023-08-14

 

- Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here.

Assisted Living in Thailand My thoughts.

"Retired and Living the dream" this YT vlogger ran this article recently..have a look

[Henryford]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How much does a Retirement Home cost in Thailand?

 

IMO anyone that buys a home to retire in in LOS is barking, but if they want to buy a place they may come to dislike and can't sell, up to them.

 

Plenty of rentals at cheaper rates than they would pay back home.

Yes pay rent for 30 years and have nothing to show for it, must be barking.

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO anyone that buys a home to retire in in LOS is barking, but if they want to buy a place they may come to dislike and can't sell, up to them.

Like many other things in this  life, you have to do the homework, pay your money and take the chance.

I am on the outskirts of Chonburi, built in 2009 for 900K, probably spent about 300K on upkeep over the years, doesn't owe me anything.

 

[brianthainess]

5 hours ago, freedomnow said:

Is the top photo the care home owners...?

 

Laughing all the way to the bank....

 

$$$$$$$$$.

Maybe all stoned 

[jacko45k]

36 minutes ago, Dene16 said:

The waiting list is now 2 years+ of pain and being immobile.

Only option is 9/12k UK pounds to have it done by the same surgeons privately in the same hospital 

My sister, recovering now, waited about 7-8 months. 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The beauty of Thailand extends beyond gorgeous landscapes and rich culture; it also offers a range of high-quality elderly care options.

 

[JoePai]

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

How much do you pay for health insurance in Thailand if you are over 75 please tell me 

195k Baht/year - full cover

[jaideedave]

1 hour ago, honcho said:

Im from NZ its free there too, free to be on a waiting list for months or years.. better pay in Thailand than die waiting in nz or uk

Same situation in Canada I hear, 1 year wait to see a specialist...but it's not free because the various and many taxes are very high.

[rwill]

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

Health care for Farangs? What a heap of BS I get it free in my country, who writes that nonsense?

And how much more do you pay in taxes for your 'free' medical care?  Even if we made doctors indentured servants we would still have to feed and house them.  Plus the costs of utilities for hospitals, cost for supplies, etc.  Someone has to pay for it.

[brianthainess]

3 hours ago, DjSilver said:

This is just a big BS ????

This is just one big Advertisement IMO

[sandyf]

42 minutes ago, Dene16 said:

The waiting list is now 2 years+ of pain and being immobile.

Only option is 9/12k UK pounds to have it done by the same surgeons privately in the same hospital 

Quite.  A friend of mine was  told a few months back it would be over 2  years  and he decided to pay the 12k to have it done.

Another friend has had both done in the last couple of years and only waited months. He had both done on NHS but carried out in a private hospital, it's a real shxxshow.

[Tropposurfer]

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

How much do you pay for health insurance in Thailand if you are over 75 please tell me 

At 67.5 I pay $7K a year for 5 star cover and I love it ????. It won't increase more than a few thousand over the next 10 to 20 years given the mean average of increases in insurance over the years.

 

I consider, as time goes by and I/we age that at say 80, paying 9K AUD or maybe a bit more no problem and I am glad to pay my premium each year for what it gives me e.g free glasses, free dental, chiropractic, osteopath, surgery, all medicines, skin cancer treatments etc WITH BNH Bumungrad type quality care, without any refusals, no matter how many I have of these. I'm a happy chappy.

 

I get the very best of care I have ever had in my entire life, and apart from the USA it covers me across the globe so no travel insurance is ever needed ... no added expense.

 

My premiums are not indexed to age, and, last until death. Any increase in premiums are indexed to industry increases due to such things as cost of service provision etc. This is, often, with the biggest and safest underwriters, standard accepted practice and 'normal'.

 

Consider the aging process and the increasing need for mobility support as just one indice of effective care, add to that the lower cost of Thai aged-care compared to western costs and it makes good sense. 

 

I believe Malaysia has some beautiful private aged-care facilities too. I will check some out next golf trip south.

 

I come from a home-country 'free' healthcare system (some have commented about this).

To compare such a free-system of aged care with a privately selected aged care facility is vastly different to the bare-bones healthcare for aged people in my country. And I mean bare-bones!

I daresay in LOS for falangs who pay for 'private' facility care this would be nicer than mid level, certainly to lower level Oz care by comparison.

Why? Simply because the Thai people have a capacity for gentleness, and loving that makes the hardened and cynical care workers in Oz pale by comparison and their running costs are far far lower.

 

I will do some research after reading this article and visit some private facilities here in our travels and maybe report back to my fellows. 

 

As a comparative aside It is sad to say but the public health aged-care system in Australia is and has been in serious trouble for some decades due to inactivity and indifference from successive Federal governments. 

Even the private systems (and their is a turgid industry in Oz providing such care) the 'care provision'  situation is strained.

Post Covid it seems to have got into even more dire straights e.g. alarming concerns re staffing levels. Lots of reports of people being neglected due to this and providers just not funding the facilities with enough cash as one cause.

 

Attend an Emergency Department at any city hospital in Australia except for a few remote location base hospitals with say a broken arm and you might wait 6 or 8 hours to be seen (I reflect a friends experience of a few months back). Let alone doing so as an elderly person is frankly hell on wheels!

 

I daresay, and it aint' rocket science to see that the more one pays the better the care one gets.

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Tropposurfer

[watchcat]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

And you are not correct about that either! Read the 2nd page of a TM7

 

'APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION IN PERSON WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF HANDICAPPED PATIENTS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES'

 

Does this mean that 'agents' are not needed? They will not like this, neither would the IO.

[Enzian]

I stopped reading with "pleasant weather".

[pomchop]

Like hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of articles posted online every day it is basically click bait where somebody who may or may not have ever set foot in thailand or know anything at all about whatever subject they write other than from what they read online..

 

.they apparently get a few cents per click....i love the ones that have some outrageous line like....Why you should never eat an apple...or How to retire in Thailand on $500 a month...and then u click through thirty pics etc and they never even mention an apple or thailand...i guess they get a few cents for every page u click on though...the answer is i rarely if ever click on these type stories as i am pretty sure it will be a load of BS...

 

or the you tube videos with headlines like "trump shot and killed" and then u click on video and not a single word related to the BS headline..but i guess they fool a lot of people into clicking on the video and that counts as a view or whatever....bunch of snake oil salespeople 

[simon43]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

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I understand there is a retirement facility off the 118 north of Chiang Mai, 90,000 baht/month. Beyond the financial reach of most retirees.

I researched retirement facilities in Thailand.  Prices for a very decent facility start from 17,000 THB/month.  This was a facility which caters mainly to Thais, but happily accepts foreigners.  Being able to speak some Thai and happy with Thai food would help!  Of course that price was room and food and general care, no specialist services provided at that price, but ideal for a 'frail but healthy' person.

[dingdongrb]

1 hour ago, kiteman9 said:

AHH Dollar three eighty

I think you meant to say, tree fiddy....

[Tarteso]

And marihuana is legal.

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Tarteso

[dingdongrb]

6 hours ago, pomchop said:

How long is a piece of string?

About this long:

[newnative]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I did read the full article, which covers both retirement homes, and retirement outside said homes in Thailand. I was referring to the latter.

There are no free lunches. Such a service would be added to the bill.

AFAIK no foreigner is excused from attending Immigration in person for retirement extensions.

I understand there is a retirement facility off the 118 north of Chiang Mai, 90,000 baht/month. Beyond the financial reach of most retirees.

    I don't think 90,000 baht a month would be 'beyond the financial reach of most retirees.'  Some, yes, but not most.  That works out to a yearly cost of around $31,000 American dollars.   My job was low-paying but with my pension and SS I easily make more than that a year.  The median 2022 retirement income for American retirees was $47,620, so most could also easily afford $31,000, as well.

    Where I, and other USA 'median income retirees', would run into difficulty, would be paying for a decent retirement home in the US.  My mother was in one and the last year she was alive, 2019, it cost $70,000 a year; it would be more now, nearly 4 years later.   If I ever need to go into a retirement home, I'm better off being here than in the US.

[dingdongrb]

57 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Like many other things in this  life, you have to do the homework, pay your money and take the chance.

I am on the outskirts of Chonburi, built in 2009 for 900K, probably spent about 300K on upkeep over the years, doesn't owe me anything.

 

Either that house knows how to time travel or you need to learn how to set the date/time stamp on your camera.

[Lacessit]

27 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said:

At 67.5 I pay $7K a year for 5 star cover and I love it ????. It won't increase more than a few thousand over the next 10 to 20 years given the mean average of increases in insurance over the years.

 

I consider, as time goes by and I/we age that at say 80, paying 9K AUD or maybe a bit more no problem and I am glad to pay my premium each year for what it gives me e.g free glasses, free dental, chiropractic, osteopath, surgery, all medicines, skin cancer treatments etc WITH BNH Bumungrad type quality care, without any refusals, no matter how many I have of these. I'm a happy chappy.

 

I get the very best of care I have ever had in my entire life, and apart from the USA it covers me across the globe so no travel insurance is ever needed ... no added expense.

 

My premiums are not indexed to age, and, last until death. Any increase in premiums are indexed to industry increases due to such things as cost of service provision etc. This is, often, with the biggest and safest underwriters, standard accepted practice and 'normal'.

 

Consider the aging process and the increasing need for mobility support as just one indice of effective care, add to that the lower cost of Thai aged-care compared to western costs and it makes good sense. 

 

I believe Malaysia has some beautiful private aged-care facilities too. I will check some out next golf trip south.

 

I come from a home-country 'free' healthcare system (some have commented about this).

To compare such a free-system of aged care with a privately selected aged care facility is vastly different to the bare-bones healthcare for aged people in my country. And I mean bare-bones!

I daresay in LOS for falangs who pay for 'private' facility care this would be nicer than mid level, certainly to lower level Oz care by comparison.

Why? Simply because the Thai people have a capacity for gentleness, and loving that makes the hardened and cynical care workers in Oz pale by comparison and their running costs are far far lower.

 

I will do some research after reading this article and visit some private facilities here in our travels and maybe report back to my fellows. 

 

As a comparative aside It is sad to say but the public health aged-care system in Australia is and has been in serious trouble for some decades due to inactivity and indifference from successive Federal governments. 

Even the private systems (and their is a turgid industry in Oz providing such care) the 'care provision'  situation is strained.

Post Covid it seems to have got into even more dire straights e.g. alarming concerns re staffing levels. Lots of reports of people being neglected due to this and providers just not funding the facilities with enough cash as one cause.

 

Attend an Emergency Department at any city hospital in Australia except for a few remote location base hospitals with say a broken arm and you might wait 6 or 8 hours to be seen (I reflect a friends experience of a few months back). Let alone doing so as an elderly person is frankly hell on wheels!

 

I daresay, and it aint' rocket science to see that the more one pays the better the care one gets.

 

AFAIK in Thailand, the options appear to be:

 

1/ Have a Thai girlfriend or wife to take care.

 

2/ Hire a carer. I understand nurses are compulsorily retired from government hospitals at age 45. The going rate is 10K - 15K baht/month.

 

3/ Mid-tier aged care facility, there's one somewhere in Hang Dong costing 45K baht/month.

 

4/ Top care, north on the 118 from Chiang Mai. 90K baht/month.

 

I'd sooner shoot myself than go into aged care in Australia. There's a Royal Commission supporting my point of view. As for hospitals, unless one has private health care, it's a 12 - 18 month wait for any surgery that is not classed as an emergency.

[1happykamper]

Geeeeez. So many comments from people who obviously can't comprehend English or never read the article. 555 555

[dingdongrb]

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

'Assisted living' is the term often used in the US.

That is true but I have always called it a 'Nursing Home'.