Charter Court refuses to consider rejection of Pita’s renomination as PM

[snoop1130]

 

The Constitutional Court has unanimously refused to consider the Ombudsman’s petition seeking a ruling on the constitutionality of parliament’s decision to reject the renomination of Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat for prime minister.

 

The Court ruled that the three petitioners, two individuals who voted for Move Forward and another who was a Move Forward MP, were not the persons directly affected.

 

The ombudsmen asked the court to invalidate the parliamentary resolution that blocked the renomination of Pita, based on a meeting regulation that the same motion cannot be submitted twice in the same session.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/urgent-charter-court-rejects-to-consider-rejection-of-pitas-renomination-as-pm/

 

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[anchadian]

In other words therefore, the ombudsman's involvement proved useless.

 

[newnative]

     Terrible decision, with ridiculous reasoning.  If nothing else, the court should have made a ruling so the proper, legal proceeding is nailed down for future PM votes.   If that's there awful reasoning, Pita should submit it again, himself.

[rbkk]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The Court ruled that the three petitioners, two individuals who voted for Move Forward and another who was a Move Forward MP, were not the persons directly affected.

 “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” @1984

Edited August 16, 2023 by rbkk

[ikke1959]

So maybe be absent in the next voting for the PM is the best solution. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

In other words therefore, the ombudsman's involvement proved useless.

 

No real surprise there.

 

After all who appointed the CC in the first place? Not only that but who tore up the previous constitution and had a new constitution.

 

The minister for everything.

Edited August 16, 2023 by billd766
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[eisfeld]

What a bad reasoning. Of course an MP is directly affected if their leader is not allowed to become Prime Minister. And if anything it would be an important decision to clarify this point of contention. Are there so many more important questions to solve at this time than what is crucial for the countries leadership? Is this playing a technicalities game?

[Jeff the Chef]

TIT, I know but ffs, have they no shame.

[cleopatra2]

The ruling has very little effect.

Pita can be renominated as long as the renomination is not the same .

Thus if PT nominate their candidate then MF can nominate Pita because the resolution will be different from the previous.(Pita was the sole nominee, now the facts are different).

[eisfeld]

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

The ruling has very little effect.

Pita can be renominated as long as the renomination is not the same .

Thus if PT nominate their candidate then MF can nominate Pita because the resolution will be different from the previous.(Pita was the sole nominee, now the facts are different).

It does not address the constitutional question if the House can stipulate requirements for a PM to be put up for vote that are more restrictive than the rules that the Constitution stipulates. If the court was to rule that it did violate the Constitution then any interim vote for another candidate that might succeed could be contested and make the situation even messier. A very important question to clarify before further votes take place imho.

[eisfeld]

I think MFP need to change their legal advisors. They keep getting nailed on trivial technicalities that should have been avoided. They can't afford that when the stakes are so high.

[ikke1959]

2 hours ago, eisfeld said:

I think MFP need to change their legal advisors. They keep getting nailed on trivial technicalities that should have been avoided. They can't afford that when the stakes are so high.

It are not the legal advisors it are the not independent judges...A Civil PM they don't want just a a civil party to Govern... Judges are appointed by the junta and will do everything always in favor of them.. Ever seen that Mr Prayuth got a ruling against him?? Never..Thailand need changes so much 

[lordgrinz]

So PT may get more than one try at PM, or do they fizzle out after one try? Would have been nice if they at least answered the question brought before them, instead we get ambiguity. Amazing Thailand!

[eisfeld]

48 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

It are not the legal advisors it are the not independent judges...A Civil PM they don't want just a a civil party to Govern... Judges are appointed by the junta and will do everything always in favor of them.. Ever seen that Mr Prayuth got a ruling against him?? Never..Thailand need changes so much 

They can change their legal advisors. They can't change the judges. You gotta work with what you have. Even if they get stopped for other more dubious reasons. At least they don't trip on the easily avoidable stuff. It would increase the odds.

[seajae]

nothing new, the ones that give out the positions and the "cake boxes" will always get their way, once again we see the corruption in Thailand fully out in the open, last thing these people want is an honest government that will stop all their graft. The only way it will end is if the people stop voting for the BS parties that are only in it to get their snouts in the trough and vote for the only decent thai political party so they have the seats to win the PMs position

Edited August 16, 2023 by seajae

[Danny Australia]

No matter what Pita does or doesn't do/say, the establishment is rigged against him. Full stop

[webfact]

Court Denies Pita A Second Chance Of Being Named PM
By Thai Newsroom Reporters

 

Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat. Photo: Matichon. 

 

THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT today (Aug.16) dropped a petition seeking a court judgement as to whether Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat may be legally given a second chance of being named prime minister, thus automatically denying it.

 

The Constitutional Court judges reached an unanimous decision to waive up the case earlier filed by the Office of the Ombudsman, practically denying Pita the second chance of being named and voted prime minister following the May 14 election which has turned his Move Forward into the country’s No.1 largest elected party.

 

For the first time last month, Pita had been named head of a post-election government but failed to get adequate support from among MPs and senators.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/08/16/court-denies-pita-a-second-chance-of-being-named-pm/

 

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[webfact]

Pita Not Petitioning Charter Court On Second PM Nomination
by TNR Staff

 

Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat next to the Constitutional Court logo. Photo: Matichon

 

MOVE Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat said this afternoon (Aug. 16) he is not going to petition the Constitutional Court to rule whether he is legally allowed a second chance to be nominated prime minister pointing out this is a problem for Parliament to resolve, Matichon newspaper said.

 

The Ombudsman had sought a ruling on a House/Senate vote last month to deny him a second chance to be named and voted prime minister on grounds it violated Article 42 of House regulations.

 

However this court ruled today that the Ombudsman is not a person or entity directly involved or affected in this matter.

 

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Pita said Move Forward MP and party spokesman Rangsiman Rome had already submitted a motion to discuss this issue at the House/Senate meeting.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/08/16/pita-not-petitioning-charter-court-on-second-pm-nomination/

[still kicking]

What a banana republic 

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm.. around in circles we go (as usual)

[eisfeld]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

MOVE Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat said this afternoon (Aug. 16) he is not going to petition the Constitutional Court to rule whether he is legally allowed a second chance to be nominated prime minister pointing out this is a problem for Parliament to resolve

Uhm. The Constitutional Court told you that you need to petition them yourself. Why wouldn you forego this opportunity? Why would you think the Parliament will resolve the issue for you if it was the Parliament who created the issue for you in the first place?

 

I don't understand the strategy at play here. Anyone got an explanation?

[neeray]

It's time for a million of his voters to peacefully protest the rigging of the election outcome. 

[ikke1959]

There need to be new elections....The ITV shares of Pita, the mistakes by the EC,. the unwillingness of the CC they all ask for it.. Keep the streets empty and hold new elections... otherwise the people will come out and who knows what will happen.  

Edited August 16, 2023 by ikke1959

[sikishrory]

You: "Ahh excuse me waiter, my food has a hair in it!."

Waiter: "Oh no! Let me go get that sorted out for you right away!".....

.....

"Chef! There's a hair in the customers dish! Can you do another one?"

Chef: "Is it your meal? Are you affected? Get out of my kitchen, this has nothing to do with you".

 

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, anchadian said:

In other words therefore, the ombudsman's involvement proved useless.

 

An ombudsman duty is to remain impartial.. the CC is bought and paid for.

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, eisfeld said:

Is this playing a technicalities game?

Junta's rules.

[sammieuk1]

3 hours ago, still kicking said:

What a banana republic 

That's not fair some bananas are straight ????

[sammieuk1]

After the lord mayors show will come the Prawit in this case ????

[Andycoops]

Another fine example of corrupt junta appointed cronies foiling the will of the people to keep the guilty in power.

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

this court ruled today that the Ombudsman is not a person or entity directly involved or affected in this matter.

May I point out to the court that a renomination to the PM position does affect every single citizen and resident of this country, and that includes the Ombudsman.

 

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Constitutional Court has unanimously refused to consider seeking a ruling on the constitutionality 

May I suggest to the court to instead seek a ruling on its very own constitutionality. Would really like to read the result of a little soul-searching, or their excuses not to.

Edited August 16, 2023 by klauskunkel