Well now!

 

Did man walk on the moon? We are told they did. Seen them myself. All Americans know this to be true; naturally. How did they manage to get through the radiation zone; not once, but twice? It's a mystery to me.

 

Did Dr David Kelly kill himself? This was a man who could have brought the system crashing down. He not only knew there were no WMD. But, he knew that others knew there were none; when they were saying there were. Who sat Kelly up against the tree? Anyone seen the film; 'Killing Kelly'? It's another mystery.

 

Did a man with a long beard, living in a cave with no internet, mastermind the 9/11 destruction? It's always been a mystery to me.

 

The Titanic sank!! Or did it? Was it in fact the Olympic? Another mystery.

 

The Princess Di tragedy. I was in West Africa when the news broke. Unbelievable!!

 

A mafia hit man says he was hired to take the shot from the grassy knoll. Where are the files that should have been released in 2017? RIP JFK.

 

Many other mysteries. Are they only that because the media is complicit and fails to investigate?

 

Is what we know about important land-marks, in our history, actually true?

 

Recently read, that the two bombs dropped on Japan in 1945 were not nukes. And the Emperor knew! Wow!! That's one to get my teeth into.

 

Are we being played for fools? Or do we not believe the general/common/government narratives because it suits our way of thinking?

 

Let your life be a counter-friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn.

 

I'll kick this off by talking about one of my favourite mystery; The Titanic Hoax.

 

We have to follow the money on this. Big international players were involved, and thousands of navvies, as well as the poor hood-winked people that lost their lives. But there is more. The FED might not have come about if it had not been for the sinking.

 

I don't think it was the Titanic that sunk. And I certainly don't think it hit an  iceberg. In fact the whole thing was carefully planned. What for? Money, of course.

 

 

45 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Let your life be a counter-friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn.

 

This is indeed a mystery.

 

What does your post mean?

How about a more recent one... Covid19

Was it a natural occurrence, was it a Lab accident or was it deliberately released. 

 

Plandemic

Documentary series that shows the connections and conflicts of interest between the media, the medical industry, politics and the financial industry during the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12745644/

 

Part 1 - Dr. Judy Mikovits

Dr. Judy Mikovits, talks with documentary-maker Mikki Willis about her work and her allegations that she was discredited by the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927010/ 

 

Part 2 - Dr. David Martin

Guided by the work of Dr. David E. Martin, Plandemic II: Indoctornation, alleges a three decade-long money trail that leads directly to the key players behind the COVID 19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927074/

 

Part 3: The Great Awakening

Filmmaker Mikki Willis explores topics related to COVID-19, the World Economic Forum, and freedom of speech.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27930696/

 

 

41 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

How about a more recent one... Covid19

Was it a natural occurrence, was it a Lab accident or was it deliberately released. 

 

Plandemic

Documentary series that shows the connections and conflicts of interest between the media, the medical industry, politics and the financial industry during the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12745644/

 

Part 1 - Dr. Judy Mikovits

Dr. Judy Mikovits, talks with documentary-maker Mikki Willis about her work and her allegations that she was discredited by the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927010/ 

 

Part 2 - Dr. David Martin

Guided by the work of Dr. David E. Martin, Plandemic II: Indoctornation, alleges a three decade-long money trail that leads directly to the key players behind the COVID 19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927074/

 

Part 3: The Great Awakening

Filmmaker Mikki Willis explores topics related to COVID-19, the World Economic Forum, and freedom of speech.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27930696/

 

 

One of the most mysterious aspects of C-19, was the release of information to the Israel press about a coming pandemic that was gonna hit the world in 2020. In November 2019. Times of Israel had it on their front page.

 

Another one (mystery) that is not spoken about much, is the Dr Kary Mullis tragedy. He was consistently saying through the AIDS era that the PCR test should not be used as a diagnostic test. And he should know! Unfortunately died shortly before C-19 hit. The PCR test was the driving force behind the data of C-19.

1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

I'll kick this off by talking about one of my favourite mystery; The Titanic Hoax.

 

We have to follow the money on this. Big international players were involved, and thousands of navvies, as well as the poor hood-winked people that lost their lives. But there is more. The FED might not have come about if it had not been for the sinking.

 

I don't think it was the Titanic that sunk. And I certainly don't think it hit an  iceberg. In fact the whole thing was carefully planned. What for? Money, of course.

 

 

Just a bit more on the Titanic Hoax.

 

Three of the main opponents to the formation of the FED (of which Morgan was a central player) were on the fatal voyage. Morgan, the owner was also going to join them, but decided not to travel at the last moment; due to sickness.

 

Titanic sank in April 2012.

The Federal Reserve System (FED) came into being in December 1913.

 

 

18 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Just a bit more on the Titanic Hoax.

 

Three of the main opponents to the formation of the FED (of which Morgan was a central player) were on the fatal voyage. Morgan, the owner was also going to join them, but decided not to travel at the last moment; due to sickness.

 

Titanic sank in April 2012.

The Federal Reserve System (FED) came into being in December 1913.

 

 

Haven't there been artifacts recovered from the Titanic bearing the ship's name, like the ship's bell? Or are they faked as well?

 

24 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Haven't there been artifacts recovered from the Titanic bearing the ship's name? Or are they faked as well?

Indeed.

 

A couple of name-plates and other small items. They are real enough. They had to be, if the switch was to succeed in the first place.

 

Remember the Olympic had two accidents, one with a naval ship. It not only was beyond economic repair (for continual crossings), but there was no insurance dosh to be had. The ship made its way to Southampton, from Belfast, where it was decided that it had just one cross-Atlantic trip in her. This is where the Olympic turned into the Titanic.

 

It was the Olympic, masquerading at the Titanic, that 'was sunk ' in the Nth Atlantic. A nice insurance sum, was then paid out to the White Star Line; that was in effect JP Morgan himself.

 

India has just sent a ship to the moon.

 

However, the US did it - manned - back in 1969. Been a talking point ever since. Many ask why we have not ventured there again since the early 1970s.

 

We have been told the 'know-how' has been lost. Or, it has been done already; why do it again? Or, it's too expensive.

 

Considering that most of us have more technology on out laps, or in our hand, than they had back then, I'm wondering why we don't do regular trip there by now.

 

It's a mystery.

1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

Indeed.

 

A couple of name-plates and other small items. They are real enough. They had to be, if the switch was to succeed in the first place.

 

Remember the Olympic had two accidents, one with a naval ship. It not only was beyond economic repair (for continual crossings), but there was no insurance dosh to be had. The ship made its way to Southampton, from Belfast, where it was decided that it had just one cross-Atlantic trip in her. This is where the Olympic turned into the Titanic.

 

It was the Olympic, masquerading at the Titanic, that 'was sunk ' in the Nth Atlantic. A nice insurance sum, was then paid out to the White Star Line; that was in effect JP Morgan himself.

And the real Titanic became the Olympic, is that the story? Hard to believe that it could be kept a secret with probably hundreds of people involved in the deception. What kind of monster would sacrifice 1500 people just to make themselves even richer?

30 minutes ago, giddyup said:

And the real Titanic became the Olympic, is that the story? Hard to believe that it could be kept a secret with probably hundreds of people involved in the deception. What kind of monster would sacrifice 1500 people just to make themselves even richer?

That's about it.

 

I only became aware of the Titanic mystery, when I was researching the FED. The two are linked and cannot be separated/divorced.

 

The Titanic sinking had far wider implications than just another ship that had sunk. The ship was deliberately sunk. In an area that was not on its route and happened to be one of the deepest known (then) part of the Nth Atlantic.

 

There is a book that goes into the whole thing in great detail. I haven't read the book myself. But If I could get a copy I certainly would.

 

'''Titanic, the ship that never sank.''' by Robin Gardiner.

 

But returning to the topic title. Why was there so little media investigation? The lack of it turned it into a mystery.

 

The Titanic saga, led, indirectly along a winding trail to some of the most powerful men in the world, at that time, Including Rokefellers, Warburgs, Rothschilds, and directly to JP Morgan, as the main man behind White Line Shipping .

 

The FED is a huge deception story in itself. And even now shrouded in some mystery.

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5 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

How about a more recent one... Covid19

Was it a natural occurrence, was it a Lab accident or was it deliberately released. 

 

Plandemic

Documentary series that shows the connections and conflicts of interest between the media, the medical industry, politics and the financial industry during the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12745644/

 

Part 1 - Dr. Judy Mikovits

Dr. Judy Mikovits, talks with documentary-maker Mikki Willis about her work and her allegations that she was discredited by the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927010/ 

 

Part 2 - Dr. David Martin

Guided by the work of Dr. David E. Martin, Plandemic II: Indoctornation, alleges a three decade-long money trail that leads directly to the key players behind the COVID 19 pandemic.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12927074/

 

Part 3: The Great Awakening

Filmmaker Mikki Willis explores topics related to COVID-19, the World Economic Forum, and freedom of speech.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27930696/

 

 

TBH Mike, I'm not a great fan of Dr. Judy Mikovits. I have listened to her on many occasions. She sounds convincing enough. She crossed swords with Dr Fauci,; and come off worse. Has a lot of bitterness within her. For good reason; I should add.

 

No! The reason for my opposition, is that I simply do not agree with her on basic health issues.

 

 

And here another mystery..  I found it on Quora....

 

In 1561, in Nuremberg, a newspaper article of the time described how, at dawn on April 14 of that same year, a kind of aerial battle was witnessed in the sky. There were objects of different shapes, including crosses, globes, two lunar crescents, a black spear, and tubular objects from which several smaller round objects emerged and shot across the sky at dawn.

To this day, it remains a mystery, what were those objects that, at dawn, left the inhabitants of Nuremberg completely speechless.

The issue is that, it is known that it is not a text that can be interpreted in several ways, since in the newspaper, one can read how they literally describe the “battle”.

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

And here another mystery..  I found it on Quora....

 

In 1561, in Nuremberg, a newspaper article of the time described how, at dawn on April 14 of that same year, a kind of aerial battle was witnessed in the sky. There were objects of different shapes, including crosses, globes, two lunar crescents, a black spear, and tubular objects from which several smaller round objects emerged and shot across the sky at dawn.

To this day, it remains a mystery, what were those objects that, at dawn, left the inhabitants of Nuremberg completely speechless.

The issue is that, it is known that it is not a text that can be interpreted in several ways, since in the newspaper, one can read how they literally describe the “battle”.

I'll be looking at that one for sure.

Walking on the moon.

 

Sometime during 1961, POTUS Kennedy said that the Americans could have a man on the moon this decade. The  Apollo programme was soon underway. Kicked off with the tragic Apollo 1, and ended with Apollo 17. The bookies were offering 10.000 to 1. Some of me mates had a few bob on. Unfortunately, I didn't. I reasoned; might be a long wait to collect, but could have a punt? I was on me way to the betting shop, but I went to the pub instead. In truth, I never thought that anyone, in my lifetime, would walk on the moon. How wrong was I?

 

In 1969, on July 16th, Apollo 11 left with Buzz and Neil on board. A bit of jiggery-pokery after leaving Earths gravity, and the made there way to the moon; about 230,000 away. Landed on the moon at 8:17pm on 20 July 1969. It was fantastic. The world was watching. And the astronauts didn't disappoint. ''One small step,,,etc'' Soviets (then USSR) eat yer funny hats. Arrived back 8 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes after blast off.

 

Russia had been well in front in the space stakes. They had a number of firsts. But!! The Americans did the big one. First men to walk on the surface of the moon. Showed the world that the US had leap-frogged the Soviets with their technology.Also took minds off the Vietnam war for a while. But not for that long. The My Lai massacre reared its ugly head. A new mission, 5 months after the first, had another faultless trip.

 

And so the programme steamed ahead. Not always without hiccup. Apollo 13 turned back, and if it hadn't been for some handy duck-tape, and an article of clothing, the mission might have failed.

 

The last Apollo mission was in 1972. Twelve guys all told had walked on the moon's surface. Let's book our future flights I told the Mrs. But nothing since then.

 

Doubters were everywhere. Those that didn't believe that man even made it outside the Earth's pull, were all over the evidence. which was very scant to say the least. Mysteriously the 700 cartons of tapes and files on the complete Apollo programme went missing. Adding fuel to the doubter's doubts. All the original blueprints lost also. In fact everything! That was a real shame, 'cause although POTUS Johnson put them under lock and key, they are due to be released in 2026. Do hope they find them.

 

One of the biggest mysteries of all.

On 8/29/2023 at 3:38 PM, owl sees all said:

Walking on the moon.

 

Sometime during 1961, POTUS Kennedy said that the Americans could have a man on the moon this decade. The  Apollo programme was soon underway. Kicked off with the tragic Apollo 1, and ended with Apollo 17. The bookies were offering 10.000 to 1. Some of me mates had a few bob on. Unfortunately, I didn't. I reasoned; might be a long wait to collect, but could have a punt? I was on me way to the betting shop, but I went to the pub instead. In truth, I never thought that anyone, in my lifetime, would walk on the moon. How wrong was I?

 

In 1969, on July 16th, Apollo 11 left with Buzz and Neil on board. A bit of jiggery-pokery after leaving Earths gravity, and the made there way to the moon; about 230,000 away. Landed on the moon at 8:17pm on 20 July 1969. It was fantastic. The world was watching. And the astronauts didn't disappoint. ''One small step,,,etc'' Soviets (then USSR) eat yer funny hats. Arrived back 8 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes after blast off.

 

Russia had been well in front in the space stakes. They had a number of firsts. But!! The Americans did the big one. First men to walk on the surface of the moon. Showed the world that the US had leap-frogged the Soviets with their technology.Also took minds off the Vietnam war for a while. But not for that long. The My Lai massacre reared its ugly head. A new mission, 5 months after the first, had another faultless trip.

 

And so the programme steamed ahead. Not always without hiccup. Apollo 13 turned back, and if it hadn't been for some handy duck-tape, and an article of clothing, the mission might have failed.

 

The last Apollo mission was in 1972. Twelve guys all told had walked on the moon's surface. Let's book our future flights I told the Mrs. But nothing since then.

 

Doubters were everywhere. Those that didn't believe that man even made it outside the Earth's pull, were all over the evidence. which was very scant to say the least. Mysteriously the 700 cartons of tapes and files on the complete Apollo programme went missing. Adding fuel to the doubter's doubts. All the original blueprints lost also. In fact everything! That was a real shame, 'cause although POTUS Johnson put them under lock and key, they are due to be released in 2026. Do hope they find them.

 

One of the biggest mysteries of all.

I respect people's right to believe people actually landed on a planet located 400,000 km away from ours, then took off again from it, on a giant barbecue wrapped in tin foil. They have the absolute right to do so.

 

And Malaysian Airlines MH 370 is also a nonsense?  

This is the best documentary on the so-called "Moon landings".

 

https://rumble.com/v1zngha-american-moon-massimo-mazzucco-exposes-the-apollo-mission-hoax.html

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I respect people's right to believe people actually landed on a planet located 400,000 km away from ours, then took off again from it, on a giant barbecue wrapped in tin foil. They have the absolute right to do so.

 

You! You, doubter you! Did you not see the astronauts jumping and skipping and playing golf?

 

A couple of dodgy things with the Apollo programme worth mentioning. One is the radiation belt. Any astronauts wanting to travel out into space would have been subjected to it.

 

The 700 cartons of data have been lost. Not one or two boxes. No! The whole lot. Is that because modern technology would have shown it all to be farcical nonsense.

 

Plenty of strange, unexplained deaths of people involved in the Apollo missions.

 

For me, the biggest mystery, is how people can still believe that men walked on the moon. But hey! I'm only the messenger.

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I respect people's right to believe people actually landed on a planet located 400,000 km away from ours, then took off again from it, on a giant barbecue wrapped in tin foil. They have the absolute right to do so.

 

Yes but you say you're a "Flat-Earther and everything it entails." so no surprise really.

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes but you say you're a "Flat-Earther and everything it entails." so no surprise really.

Come on now Brian. There is no shame on saying that you DO believe men walked on the moon. Don't matter about other's viewpoints.

 

And, by the way, this flat-earth stuff seems to be gathering momentum.

I want to hear about the Jewish space lasers. They're the lineal descendants of the Jewish chunks of ice, the Icebergs, that sank the Titanic, right?

 

Where's MTG when you need her?

Good. Maybe it will fall off the edge and begone.

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On 8/28/2023 at 10:31 AM, owl sees all said:

The Titanic sank!!

But guess what, the swimming pool is still full of water! How's that! 

14 minutes ago, degrub said:

Good. Maybe it will fall off the edge and begone.

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Cool, I thought I was the only flat Earth believer!

 

15 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

They're the lineal descendants of the Jewish chunks of ice, the Icebergs, that sank the Titanic, right?

 

Goldberg, Steinberg, Iceberg, they're all the same to me!

18 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

I want to hear about the Jewish space lasers. They're the lineal descendants of the Jewish chunks of ice, the Icebergs, that sank the Titanic, right?

 

Where's MTG when you need her?

There were (allegedly) devices left on the moon's surface that NASA cold fire a lazer to, and get a signal back. I do think they did it too. I'll check on that.

The greatest mystery of this age is why so many morons follow Donald Trump? He makes America and Americans look stupid! Wake up America!

They are/were used to measure the distance from the earth to the moon.

 

vague memory, but i thought some large telescopes have been used to image the landing sites and equipment left behind. No question then about the done part. 

10 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

There were (allegedly) devices left on the moon's surface that NASA cold fire a lazer to, and get a signal back. I do think they did it too. I'll check on that.

Yes, they were some kind of reflective device and they were used to measure the distance from the earth to the moon with lasers. But Jewish and used to start fires in California?