30 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said:

Don't ya just love the screamers about injustice. The US and almost all States have on their books and have for centuries ... speedy trial statutes.

 

This is no surprise at all. The faux outrage is because:

1. Trump is on trial in a State legislature, not a Federal one that he cannot (by anyone) be pardoned for.
2. The GOP MAGA party refuses to acknowledge that Trump is on trial in Georgia because a jury of 12 random citizens there saw the evidences presented by the prosecution and could see clear enough that there was a case to answer to and so Trump was indicted.
3. The GOP MAGA party/cult is hoping, by delaying as much as they can, for some divine (evil dark actually) miracle come election day that they will sweep all sanity and truth before them and can if this black-miracle happens simply disobey and nullify through whatever means they deem necessary the prosecution and any convictions that may have been handed down against Trump and any of the MAGA crowd.
4. When we see the evidences in open court which will be the case in Georgia, because cameras are allowed and commonly used for the public to see trials, what Fani Willis has reported as being the core of the indictments it will be clear for all (the entire world) to see what the truth is.

Not that any of this will matter to those who have handed over their lives, wills, souls, and sanity to a madman and the evil, extreme alt-rightist, neo-Nazi, Klan, despotism that is now the GOP and MAGA.

 

The history of this pernicious white-supremacist evil has always existed in the USA. The body-politic of fascism in American history and in the political zeitgeist of todays America is plain and real to see. If you cannot see this then you are sick, yes sick.

 

If anyone denies the turgidity of the US neo-Nazism in todays American society, its poster-boy Trump, and the deliberate calculated ingress and infection of the body politic and culture of America today and is crying-out that the Justice Department is persecuting good hearted 'patriotic Americans' then they themselves harbour racist, white -supremacy in themselves.

 

Yes I'm talking directly to you ????

 

Regarding point #1, the defendant will try to have the case moved to Federal court. The main advantage will be a less Black jury pool, since the case will still be tried under Georgia law and any pardon application would have to go through the Georgia pardons board.

"Lawfare."  Put it in your dictionary as it now the New Normal.

Obama appointed judge - surprise !!!

 

In all honesty I do not think it will happen, it will now go to some appeals court and likely the supreme court first.

 

This judge should be fired immediately - like him or loathe him there is no way a person can get a fair trial in a Den state, with a Dem judge, on a prosecution bought by a Dem state representative. Bit like saying a black man wold get a fair trial in a KKK hickville town that had no blacks on the just and a judge with a Rebel flag behind him !

 

Besides, If i was Trump atturney and it goes ahead, I would declare ALL the 12 million documents defence material and read through everyone with the jury - judge could not complain as it would cause mistrial

25 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Obama appointed judge - surprise !!!

 

In all honesty I do not think it will happen, it will now go to some appeals court and likely the supreme court first.

 

This judge should be fired immediately - like him or loathe him there is no way a person can get a fair trial in a Den state, with a Dem judge, on a prosecution bought by a Dem state representative. Bit like saying a black man wold get a fair trial in a KKK hickville town that had no blacks on the just and a judge with a Rebel flag behind him !

 

Besides, If i was Trump atturney and it goes ahead, I would declare ALL the 12 million documents defence material and read through everyone with the jury - judge could not complain as it would cause mistrial

As is usual, Trump’s fan base can barely string a coherent sentence together. 

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Take the blinkers off. That judge gave a white guy 5 years jail for protesting. In Oz he gets a month.

 

Umh, we need to know a little bit more to make sense of your comment: what did he do to get 5 years jail, what did he do in Australia (presumably that is what you mean by Oz, unless you are talking of a magic land at the end of a yellow brick road) to get a month jail, if they are different people, and different offences, then to what extent are they comparable?

 

If you can't or won't explain that then at least point us at the links to allow us ( if we are interested) to read ourselves. Googling  5 years jail in US, 1 month in Australia  doesn't throw up anything.

5 hours ago, bignok said:

She is friends with Obamas. Donated money. Even when she was young and smiling she had bad eyes. Their is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes

That would make an epic opening argument when the appeal is heard by the Supreme Court. Hard not to conclude that brave hard done by Donnie is as pure as Stormy Daniels, and as abused as her knicker elastic, after hearing that one!

34 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Obama appointed judge - surprise !!!

 

In all honesty I do not think it will happen, it will now go to some appeals court and likely the supreme court first.

 

This judge should be fired immediately - like him or loathe him there is no way a person can get a fair trial in a Den state, with a Dem judge, on a prosecution bought by a Dem state representative. Bit like saying a black man wold get a fair trial in a KKK hickville town that had no blacks on the just and a judge with a Rebel flag behind him !

 

Besides, If i was Trump atturney and it goes ahead, I would declare ALL the 12 million documents defence material and read through everyone with the jury - judge could not complain as it would cause mistrial

Come on up to the 21st century. All the documents are digitized with search capabilities on all the key phrases.

 

As to the rest of your post . . . pleeeeeeeeeeeeze.

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

"bad eyes"? Really. Your comment is absolutely not deranged in any way whatsoever. An absolutely rational and unbiased appraisal of the judge. Truly a model of thoughtfulness.

She is on record, lamenting the fact Trump was not in Jail. She could not be more bias!

6 hours ago, bignok said:

Can always tell a person by their face.

I assume you are referring to trump's silly mugshot, where the bloated and out of shape butterball pretended he was some sort of fighter?

27 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

Umh, we need to know a little bit more to make sense of your comment: what did he do to get 5 years jail, what did he do in Australia (presumably that is what you mean by Oz, unless you are talking of a magic land at the end of a yellow brick road) to get a month jail, if they are different people, and different offences, then to what extent are they comparable?

 

If you can't or won't explain that then at least point us at the links to allow us ( if we are interested) to read ourselves. Googling  5 years jail in US, 1 month in Australia  doesn't throw up anything.

If you read her prior comments you would already know she is unfit the hold the case. She would be removed already in the uk/oz for making some inappropriate prior comments which are prejudicial

55 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Obama appointed judge - surprise !!!

 

In all honesty I do not think it will happen, it will now go to some appeals court and likely the supreme court first.

 

This judge should be fired immediately - like him or loathe him there is no way a person can get a fair trial in a Den state, with a Dem judge, on a prosecution bought by a Dem state representative. Bit like saying a black man wold get a fair trial in a KKK hickville town that had no blacks on the just and a judge with a Rebel flag behind him !

 

Besides, If i was Trump atturney and it goes ahead, I would declare ALL the 12 million documents defence material and read through everyone with the jury - judge could not complain as it would cause mistrial

You mean trump-appointed judge cannon in the stolen classified documents case, right?

 

The only way trumpers will be happy if the judge is jeanine pirro and the jury is made up of the Freedumb Cockups in the US House.

2 hours ago, bignok said:

She's a nasty piece of work

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66383603

 

Tougher than any judge

Smirks like a serial killer

 

Clear power kick she gets.

 

Given these comments this judge should be removed asap

 

"Nonetheless, she has previously expressed frustration that people who had knowingly lied to Mr Trump's supporters had avoided charges.

"You have made a very good point," she said during one sentencing hearing in 2021, "that the people who exhorted you and encouraged you and rallied you to go and take action and to fight have not been charged".

 

She has a clear agenda and is not independent and grossly prejudiced.

 

She wouldnt last a week in the UK or Oz. Out on her fat ass.

14 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

She is on record, lamenting the fact Trump was not in Jail. She could not be more bias!

Of course you can source this claim with a link.........

18 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

She is on record, lamenting the fact Trump was not in Jail. She could not be more bias!

That's what Trump says. Can you link to a quote of what she exactly said?

1 hour ago, fdimike said:

Do you honestly know what you're talking about???

I don't think that he does know what he is talking about,

 

However he certainly believes what he says.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Of course you can source this claim with a link.........

https://www.easternprogress.com/in-her-jan-6-courtroom-judge-who-will-hear-trumps-case-is-the-pot-calling/article_a7cf3c2f-bb75-54aa-8b45-819a1e92492d.html

 

Before sentencing Christine Priola, a Trump supporter from Ohio who pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, to 15 months in jail, Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison. “[The] people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty, to one man – not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant, not to the ideals of this country, and not to the principles of democracy,” Chutkan said on Oct. 28, 2022. “It's a blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day." (Emphasis added.)

1 minute ago, CharlieKo said:

https://www.easternprogress.com/in-her-jan-6-courtroom-judge-who-will-hear-trumps-case-is-the-pot-calling/article_a7cf3c2f-bb75-54aa-8b45-819a1e92492d.html

 

Before sentencing Christine Priola, a Trump supporter from Ohio who pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, to 15 months in jail, Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison. “[The] people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty, to one man – not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant, not to the ideals of this country, and not to the principles of democracy,” Chutkan said on Oct. 28, 2022. “It's a blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day." (Emphasis added.)

Grounds for immediate removal in the UK or Oz.

 

Is the US totally corrupt or what?

12 minutes ago, bignok said:

If you read her prior comments you would already know she is unfit the hold the case. She would be removed already in the uk/oz for making some inappropriate prior comments which are prejudicial

So you can't cite, or give a link, to the specific cases of 5 years in US and 1 month in Australia then?

 

I mean fair enough if you can't, or won't,  but it does rather colour your whole argument doesn't it!

2 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

https://www.easternprogress.com/in-her-jan-6-courtroom-judge-who-will-hear-trumps-case-is-the-pot-calling/article_a7cf3c2f-bb75-54aa-8b45-819a1e92492d.html

 

Before sentencing Christine Priola, a Trump supporter from Ohio who pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, to 15 months in jail, Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison. “[The] people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty, to one man – not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant, not to the ideals of this country, and not to the principles of democracy,” Chutkan said on Oct. 28, 2022. “It's a blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day." (Emphasis added.)

What was inaccurate in what she said?

12 minutes ago, bignok said:

Given these comments this judge should be removed asap

 

"Nonetheless, she has previously expressed frustration that people who had knowingly lied to Mr Trump's supporters had avoided charges.

"You have made a very good point," she said during one sentencing hearing in 2021, "that the people who exhorted you and encouraged you and rallied you to go and take action and to fight have not been charged".

 

She has a clear agenda and is not independent and grossly prejudiced.

 

She wouldnt last a week in the UK or Oz. Out on her fat ass.

Grossly prejudiced against sedition.  Probably prejudiced against illegal acts in general.  Would you prefer a judge who ignores the law?

1 minute ago, candide said:

What was inaccurate in what she said?

It shows she is not fit to judge the case because she is bias. Certainly didn't say anything was inaccurate. Obviously you think Trump should be in Jail. Well that is your opinion, right or wrong! 

5 minutes ago, candide said:

What was inaccurate in what she said?

1 biased

2 inappropriate

3 prejudicial

4 grounds for dismissal

 

She would get booted in a real country

7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

So you can't cite, or give a link, to the specific cases of 5 years in US and 1 month in Australia then?

 

I mean fair enough if you can't, or won't,  but it does rather colour your whole argument doesn't it!

If you can't find a protestor that got 5 years too I rest my case.

8 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

https://www.easternprogress.com/in-her-jan-6-courtroom-judge-who-will-hear-trumps-case-is-the-pot-calling/article_a7cf3c2f-bb75-54aa-8b45-819a1e92492d.html

 

Before sentencing Christine Priola, a Trump supporter from Ohio who pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, to 15 months in jail, Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison. “[The] people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty, to one man – not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant, not to the ideals of this country, and not to the principles of democracy,” Chutkan said on Oct. 28, 2022. “It's a blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day." (Emphasis added.)

Isn't that the same sentiment raised by many judges?

 

“I see the videotapes. I see the footage of the flags and the signs that people were carrying and the hats that they were wearing, and the garb,” Chutkan said. “And the people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant; not to the ideals of this county and not to the principles of democracy. It’s blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day.”

Chutkan’s sentiments have been common among judges who have sentenced Jan. 6 rioters. Several have expressed discomfort over punishing rioters — who had been deluged with lies about the election by Trump and steered to the Capitol with a warning that their country was being stolen and their livelihoods were in danger — while those who misled them have faced no consequences.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/trump-inflammatory-comments-judge-chutkan-00111041

 

 

The added opinion that "Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison" is made up nonsense.

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The added opinion that "Chutkan appeared to lament the fact Trump was not yet in prison" is made up nonsense.

So when it doesn't fit your narrative, It's made up nonsense. I wonder how many posters are interested in a fair Trail. Rather than pre judging a guilty verdict?

1 minute ago, CharlieKo said:

So when it doesn't fit your narrative, It's made up nonsense. I wonder how many posters are interested in a fair Trail. Rather than pre judging a guilty verdict?

Not my narrative, I quoted what the judge said who is not the only judge to make similar remarks when sentencing rioters from Jan 6th and left out the opinion piece promoted by Trump and his followers which is indeed nonsense.

2 hours ago, bignok said:

Your bias is on show

Bias? Latest news: Mark Meadows FOLDS on the stand in Georgia and implicates Trump. 

Seems he hung himself.

 

20 minutes ago, bignok said:

If you can't find a protestor that got 5 years too I rest my case.

Not so fast! lol

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-man-gets-5-years-assault-capitol-riot-longest-sentence-n1286249

 

WASHINGTON — A Florida man was sentenced Friday to just over five years in prison for assaulting police officers during the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

23 minutes ago, bignok said:

If you can't find a protestor that got 5 years too I rest my case.

Actually some Jan 6th protestors have received far larger sentences by other judges, are those judges biased to?

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

I don't think so. He's required to face a jury of his peers, but it's not a jury until all have been selected and sworn in.

And after being vetted by both Prosecution and Defense attorneys.