Couple Given Life In Jail For Torturing Toddler To Death, Seriously Injuring His Sister

[webfact]

 

A WOMAN and her new husband who had tortured one toddler to death and seriously injured the other were given life in jail yesterday (Aug. 30), Amarin TV said.

 

The small boy, Phi Phi, was just two years and one month old when he died on May 26, 2022, after being severely tortured while her sister, Chao Kha, was badly injured on August 1, 2022 when she was just three years and four months old.

 

Ms. Natthornwit Na Pattani, 27, the biological mother of the two children, and Mr. Tinnakorn Kamonsilp, 29, the stepfather, were charged with murder by torture and brutality and attempted murder with their death sentence being commuted to life imprisonment after confession.

 

In Chao Kha’s case there was a rape charge as well.

 

by TNR Staff 

The mother of the two toddlers being questioned. Photo: Amarin TV

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/08/30/couple-given-life-in-jail-for-torturing-toddler-to-death-seriously-injuring-his-sister/

 

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[Artisi]

Wrong outcome, should have had the oxygen supply turned-off. 

[neeray]

Let's hope that they stay locked up FOR LIFE.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Ms. Natthornwit Na Pattani, 27, the biological mother of the two children, and Mr. Tinnakorn Kamonsilp, 29, the stepfather, were charged with murder by torture and brutality and attempted murder with their death sentence being commuted to life imprisonment after confession.

Should have been a back room injection.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Should have been a back room injection.

Good job for Joe Ferrari, keep his hand-in. 

[swm59nj]

They should have went for the death sentence 

[Andre0720]

Christopher Hitchens:

'' There are people who only think about themselves. And there are people who get pleasure from being unpleasant to other people, and inflicting cruelty on them. The first group we call sociopathic, and the second group we call the psychopathic. And they occur in nature and in society. My only problem is with those who all think that they were made in the image of God."

 

So it appears that there are gradients to these two conditions. And this gradient goes from 'being able to be accepted as part of society', to 'needed to be removed from society'.

This here is a case of the latter.

[Captain Monday]

I don’t believe the death penalty should be used in my country but there are some people who DESERVE to be executed. Starting with those who let their kids bake to death in cars while they go to gamble and drink. 

[sikishrory]

These sorts of stories. Inhuman and cruel, seem to appear way to often

[Ratman]

Should be lights out for the both of them     

On 8/31/2023 at 2:29 AM, webfact said:

 

A WOMAN and her new husband who had tortured one toddler to death and seriously injured the other were given life in jail yesterday (Aug. 30), Amarin TV said.

 

The small boy, Phi Phi, was just two years and one month old when he died on May 26, 2022, after being severely tortured while her sister, Chao Kha, was badly injured on August 1, 2022 when she was just three years and four months old.

 

Ms. Natthornwit Na Pattani, 27, the biological mother of the two children, and Mr. Tinnakorn Kamonsilp, 29, the stepfather, were charged with murder by torture and brutality and attempted murder with their death sentence being commuted to life imprisonment after confession.

 

In Chao Kha’s case there was a rape charge as well.

 

by TNR Staff 

The mother of the two toddlers being questioned. Photo: Amarin TV

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/08/30/couple-given-life-in-jail-for-torturing-toddler-to-death-seriously-injuring-his-sister/

 

-- THAI NEWSROOM 2023-08-31

 

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[Sydebolle]

Whatever the do-gooders and tree huggers opinion; the death sentence would have served society much better than feeding these two monsters for the rest of their lives. 

It must be the objective of society's gate keepers to ensure the safety. Rid the society from such terrible monsters - once and for good. You will not make anything unhappen but those two would never ever create trouble again and the taxpayer would be not unhappy too! 

[djayz]

It's difficult to believe that in this day and age, such people still exist. 

What the f*** was wrong with the mother that she allowed this to happen to her own flesh and blood?! 

 

[Cake Monster]

A very fitting sentence for these Animals

Specially if all the other Prisoners are made fully aware of their Heinous Act towards small defenseless Children

May they suffer, and rot in Hell

[ross163103]

Just put them to death, someone who commits a crime like this will never be reformed......and deserves to die. 

[shunter]

Perhaps time to borrow and revive that old Chinese custom of ''Death by a thousand cuts'' for these two pieces of human excrement. A wonderful experience for them to experience the pain and suffering that they inflicted upon defenceless toddlers... 

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Christopher Hitchens:

'' There are people who only think about themselves. And there are people who get pleasure from being unpleasant to other people, and inflicting cruelty on them. The first group we call sociopathic, and the second group we call the psychopathic. And they occur in nature and in society. My only problem is with those who all think that they were made in the image of God."

 

So it appears that there are gradients to these two conditions. And this gradient goes from 'being able to be accepted as part of society', to 'needed to be removed from society'.

This here is a case of the latter.

"My only problem is with those who all think that they were made in the image of God."

 

In other words these folks believe that their existence, regardless of what they do, is sanctioned by god. 

 

My view is that there is no god, not any god, and religion does a lot more harm than good.

 

I'm guessing many posters saw the recent article;

- There is no proof at all that Jesus every existed.

- There is no proof at all of virgin birth.

- There is no proof at all that Jesus died on a cross.

- There is no proof at all that Jesus died and came back to life 3 days later.

 

I am not a believer and I never wil be. My small 'brush' with religion is as follows:

 

- Went to rookie camp for compulsory national service (Vietnam war era).

- Marched into the camp chapel for the talk by the chaplain (Church of England).

- Had been at rookie camp nearly 3 months never even knew there was a chapel or a chaplain on the site. No signage anywhere telling soldiers / reruits that the chapel and Chaplain existed.

- Chaplain starts the lecture for my group (two training sergeants standing at the side of the chapel). Chaplain goes on and on about how god and Jesus will protect us from harm.

Chaplain goes on and on about how he is our friend and tells repeatedly that we are welcome to ask questions at any time.

A few recruits did ask questions but got fluffy answers.

I stood up to attention and when invited to speak said "Please chaplain sir I have never understood where the bible came from, who made it into a book?

- The chplain was furious, and he just abused me about my ignorance and about being very disrespectful to god and to Jesus and to the chaplain himself.

- Chaplain then tells the 2 training sergeants to immediately march me to the camp commanders office and tell the commander the chaplain requests this recruit be punished.

So much for all questions welcome  / chaplain is your friend etc.

- I got matched into the camp commanders office and the 2 sergeants spoke. I wasn't allowed to speak.

- 5 minutes later I has assigned to additional early morning kitchen duties for the rest of my time at that camp (about 3 weeks from memory), plus a note put on my army records about being insubordinate.

- I has previosuly had no belief in religion, now even less.

 

- The one redeeming factor, for me, about eligion was that many times during our training, especially at the final event of the day in jungle training, end of long marches and runs etc, there was always a short wheel base Land Rover with a Salvation Army officer, a very big urn of hot sweet tea and big trays of freshly cut sandwiches. The Salvos guy never preached, he did always ask if any soldiers had any mail to send home (often true because it was difficult to get to the army post office) and he would take the letters and post them. And he would quietly ask "Does anybody need to write a letter home, I can help you?" Several times young recruits did come forward. The Salvos guy had several prepared simple letters saying "I'm OK, hope everybody at home is well, etc., etc". And he would give the soldier a clean piece of paper, a pen and an envelope and ask the soldier to rewite the letter and add more. And in some cases the Salvos guy would quietly talk with the senior training office to make a plan for a recruit who had problems to meet the Salvos guy pivately for an hour after the days activities all completed. I'm aware this happened several times and the soldier involved telling a few buddies that the Salvos officer had been very helpful and in some cases there was a plan for the soldier to meet the Salvos guy every week. And in some cases the Salvos man had realised there was a very serious issue at hand, in one case the solider was quickly honourably dismissed from service and went home to his troubled family. 

 

 

 

[kingstonkid]

4 hours ago, swm59nj said:

They should have went for the death sentence 

Death sentence might have already been given.

 

Not sure about the man but I can not see the women greeting her with open arms.

 

In Canada they have separate wings be ause lifers love these people especially if they are cute

[scorecard]

Just now, kingstonkid said:

Death sentence might have already been given.

 

Not sure about the man but I can not see the women greeting her with open arms.

 

In Canada they have separate wings be ause lifers love these people especially if they are cute

They were both sentenced to death but that was commuted to life imprisonment because they confessed to their crimes. 

[scorecard]

Just now, scorecard said:

They were both sentenced to death but that was commuted to life imprisonment because they confessed to their crimes. 

Now wait for some do gooder to try to get their sentences commuted to 5 years or whatever. 

[JCauto]

3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Whatever the do-gooders and tree huggers opinion; the death sentence would have served society much better than feeding these two monsters for the rest of their lives. 

It must be the objective of society's gate keepers to ensure the safety. Rid the society from such terrible monsters - once and for good. You will not make anything unhappen but those two would never ever create trouble again and the taxpayer would be not unhappy too! 

It's a pity that you can't point to any reasonable evidence that the Death Sentence is either a deterrent, saves any costs to society or otherwise is beneficial compared to life sentences without chance of parole. Much better to just go off on a rant against lefties whom you dislike (again without any evidence) rather than present any cogent arguments.

To explain - a life sentence without parole means these two have zero chance of ever doing this again. Not having the Death Sentence means not having endless appeals and therefore lower costs to the public even with the costs of incarceration (at least in the developed world, not sure about Thailand). A supposed Buddhist society should certainly not be choosing to execute prisoners, something fundamentally and explicitly against the credo of the state religion.

[bannork]

The man will not survive long in a Thai jail, as it should be.

[Confuscious]

4 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Whatever the do-gooders and tree huggers opinion; the death sentence would have served society much better than feeding these two monsters for the rest of their lives. 

It must be the objective of society's gate keepers to ensure the safety. Rid the society from such terrible monsters - once and for good. You will not make anything unhappen but those two would never ever create trouble again and the taxpayer would be not unhappy too! 

Give them the Chinese death penalty.
Spend their organs and anything that can save other people to hospitals where they can serve humanity, whilst they are still alive, a last time before they die.

[Taboo2]

I hope they have a "good time" in prison.

 

 

[Artisi]

3 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

I hope they have a "good time" in prison.

 

 

24/7

[WHansen]

9 hours ago, Artisi said:

Wrong outcome, should have had the oxygen supply turned-off. 

I could help with a nitrogen purge of his cell

[Sydebolle]

3 hours ago, JCauto said:

It's a pity that you can't point to any reasonable evidence that the Death Sentence is either a deterrent, saves any costs to society or otherwise is beneficial compared to life sentences without chance of parole. Much better to just go off on a rant against lefties whom you dislike (again without any evidence) rather than present any cogent arguments.

To explain - a life sentence without parole means these two have zero chance of ever doing this again. Not having the Death Sentence means not having endless appeals and therefore lower costs to the public even with the costs of incarceration (at least in the developed world, not sure about Thailand). A supposed Buddhist society should certainly not be choosing to execute prisoners, something fundamentally and explicitly against the credo of the state religion.

Well, what does it cost the taxpayer to keep these two monsters alive for a month - considering their relative young life? 
Who guarantees that they will get to reason and never ever do such a thing again? 

There are three reasons for death penalty; rape, murder as a guardian (be it old people or young children) and drug dealers. 

You do not make these crimes "unhappen" but they will never ever be committed by the same people. 

Life sentence, no parole, limitations of 25 years etc. etc. etc. - Fact is, that there is hardly anyone serving the full "life" sentence and I wonder, how big the "repetition" case is. After X years in the slammer they had enough time to build up even more evil and hatred. 

We might have to agree to disagree on this! 

[kingstonkid]

3 hours ago, JCauto said:

It's a pity that you can't point to any reasonable evidence that the Death Sentence is either a deterrent, saves any costs to society or otherwise is beneficial compared to life sentences without chance of parole. Much better to just go off on a rant against lefties whom you dislike (again without any evidence) rather than present any cogent arguments.

To explain - a life sentence without parole means these two have zero chance of ever doing this again. Not having the Death Sentence means not having endless appeals and therefore lower costs to the public even with the costs of incarceration (at least in the developed world, not sure about Thailand). A supposed Buddhist society should certainly not be choosing to execute prisoners, something fundamentally and explicitly against the credo of the state religion.

The death penalty save money only in that the cost of inprisonmnet is lower as he is not there for meals and looking after as long.

 

Personally I have always been a proponent of people that commit these crimes being jailed. With the provision that they are jailed in the Gen pop.  That way they really do HARD TIME.

 

Back when coke was sold in a glass bottle only they were a favourite toy for lifers that wanted to enertain themselves with child molestors or Pedophiles.  

[JCauto]

3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Well, what does it cost the taxpayer to keep these two monsters alive for a month - considering their relative young life? 
Who guarantees that they will get to reason and never ever do such a thing again? 

There are three reasons for death penalty; rape, murder as a guardian (be it old people or young children) and drug dealers. 

You do not make these crimes "unhappen" but they will never ever be committed by the same people. 

Life sentence, no parole, limitations of 25 years etc. etc. etc. - Fact is, that there is hardly anyone serving the full "life" sentence and I wonder, how big the "repetition" case is. After X years in the slammer they had enough time to build up even more evil and hatred. 

We might have to agree to disagree on this! 

So no response to the issues raised - that it is always more expensive to try to prosecute people with the death sentence due to the endless appeals and process that is rightfully in place for when the State takes a measure so extreme, that there are often miscarriages of justice particularly when there are disadvantaged groups who are being accused (I failed to mention that before), that sentences of life without parole have extraordinarily low cases of people escaping and re-committing crimes and by definition they're not eligible for parole so can't do so otherwise, that the Buddhist nature of Thailand means the death penalty is contrary to the basic morales and principles held by the majority of the population, etc.

You won't find justice in quickly convicting and killing people who are accused - this has been shown over and over again to be a slippery slope. Sure, seems a no-brainer for scumbags like these. But once you make state-sanctioned death quick and easy, you can bet your life that it will be misused as has happened repeatedly in the USA for example.

[JCauto]

3 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

The death penalty save money only in that the cost of inprisonmnet is lower as he is not there for meals and looking after as long.

 

Personally I have always been a proponent of people that commit these crimes being jailed. With the provision that they are jailed in the Gen pop.  That way they really do HARD TIME.

 

Back when coke was sold in a glass bottle only they were a favourite toy for lifers that wanted to enertain themselves with child molestors or Pedophiles.  

This is incorrect. The cost of imprisonment within the general prison population is relatively low compared to the cost for the courts to convict for the death penalty (much more difficult and drawn out process), the costs to the courts for the appeals processes to play out (necessary with such a strong penalty that cannot be revoked) and the costs for the special quarters required for the condemned (Death Row is way more expensive than general pop). Just put them in the general population, where their costs are the same as others and their stay will likely be...short and unpleasant due to prisoner justice.

So we're in agreement sort of, convict them and put them in the general population where their costs are lower and their lifespan is measured in non-solitary prison yard visits.

[Cardinalblue1958]

13 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Whatever the do-gooders and tree huggers opinion; the death sentence would have served society much better than feeding these two monsters for the rest of their lives. 

It must be the objective of society's gate keepers to ensure the safety. Rid the society from such terrible monsters - once and for good. You will not make anything unhappen but those two would never ever create trouble again and the taxpayer would be not unhappy too! 

You have a problem with tree huggers?