American man faces dilemma as Thai girlfriend’s parents demand 1 million baht dowry

[JBChiangRai]

16 hours ago, Drop the dead donkey said:

This post has received 12 pages of replies.

to be honest with you, it is just bait journalism.

Who cares about other people’s lives to this extent. 
I read the first page, and realise that the bait has been taken.

The bait is always taken…

 

My view is “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”

 

Thailand has different cultures and customs, accept and abide by them or don’t stay here.

 

It really is that simple.

[NextG]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

The bait is always taken…

 

My view is “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”

 

Thailand has different cultures and customs, accept and abide by them or don’t stay here.

 

It really is that simple.

What about the Thai people who don’t agree with them? Should they leave too?

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, NextG said:

What about the Thai people who don’t agree with them? Should they leave too?

Anyone can disagree, just as the bride’s parents can refuse the wedding.

[NextG]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

Anyone can disagree, just as the bride’s parents can refuse the wedding.

What does have that to do with my question?

[quake]

8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The bait is always taken…

 

My view is “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”

 

Thailand has different cultures and customs, accept and abide by them or don’t stay here.

 

It really is that simple.

Ok, upto you.

Don't forget to gargle with urine each morning and become bisexual. Romans,  ha ha.

 

The rest of your post is laughable as well. 

It's that simple. 

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, quake said:

Ok, upto you.

Don't forget to gargle with urine each morning and become bisexual. Romans,  ha ha.

 

The rest of your post is laughable as well. 

It's that simple. 

 

 

If I was in historic Rome, I would abide by their customs, they were less forgiving than Thai’s.

 

I don’t think gargling with urine was mandatory, or bisexuality, but hey, When in Rome…

[bignok]

Why get married to anyone poorer than you?

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, NextG said:

What does have that to do with my question?

Ok, prefix my answer with “No, “

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

Why get married to anyone poorer than you?

My father always said that it is as easy to marry a rich girl as a poor girl, so marry a rich girl.

 

But like all young people, I thought I knew better, but I was wrong.

[thecyclist]

15 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

How about at least one good picture of the bride—so we can help determine how much sinsod?

 

And a picture of the bridegroom. The attractiveness differential is needed for an exact determination of the price. 

 

16 hours ago, Drop the dead donkey said:

This post has received 12 pages of replies.

to be honest with you, it is just bait journalism.

Who cares about other people’s lives to this extent. 
I read the first page, and realise that the bait has been taken.

Of courses it has. Anything to do with sex and love in the farang/Siamese context always gets lots of impassioned replies, more even than the story of the squared faced godfather of CM screwing the Thai people over again.

[thecyclist]

9 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

My father always said that it is as easy to marry a rich girl as a poor girl, so marry a rich girl.

 

But like all young people, I thought I knew better, but I was wrong.

Your father was wrong. At least in this part of the world.,rich girls marry rich guys.

[NextG]

7 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Your father was wrong. At least in this part of the world.,rich girls marry rich guys.

I’m guessing his father wasn’t from ‘this part of the world’. 
But even here he wasn’t entirely wrong. 

[Reginald Prewster]

On 9/14/2023 at 11:10 AM, 1FinickyOne said:

The old line tradition was that each party designated a friend to negotiate the dowry and that way there was no conflict w/the family... 

The Bridesmoney (Dowry) was a negotiation in front of our dinner and a beer after a day sugar cane harvest... 

No special event or announced with drums and trumpets.. 

 

2002 I asked my wife to pay the respect to father (widow) and we had from day one a tight bond because he was former Thai Reconnaisance and I was German Seal. 

Within one year he was my father and I his only son..

Luckily, money was never standing between us.

 

[bignok]

20 hours ago, Straight8 said:

2 chances of that happening now.

 

Bride thinks it reasonable, she aint providing anymore vag until he stumps up 1 mill

1m other ladies. Sin sot is a scam.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, transam said:

Where there we have it, you just want a leg over, wherever it is.....????

Why else would we want to marry a young woman that can't relate to our life experience or have a discussion about things we like, which do not pertain 100% to food.

Edited September 15, 2023 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

42 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

And a picture of the bridegroom. The attractiveness differential is needed for an exact determination of the price. 

He is the one paying, so he does not need to be attractive. If she paid him to do the shuffle with her then it would be different.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Anyone can disagree, just as the bride’s parents can refuse the wedding.

If she is of age to be independent then she decides if they get married or not. Don't need parental permission except for minors.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

The bait is always taken…

 

My view is “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”

 

Thailand has different cultures and customs, accept and abide by them or don’t stay here.

 

It really is that simple.

Rubbish. They want our money. Money negates customs, unless one wishes to abide by them. Sin sod is a custom that is not essential to observe.

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If she is of age to be independent then she decides if they get married or not. Don't need parental permission except for minors.

True legally, but in reality almost all Thais will abide by their parents. If they don’t it would ring alarm bells with me.

 

Legally & culturally, parents can do no wrong. Parents can sue children but not vice-versa.

[JBChiangRai]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Rubbish. They want our money. Money negates customs, unless one wishes to abide by them. Sin sod is a custom that is not essential to observe.

Money does not negate customs.

 

You can’t have a typical Thai wedding and pick and choose which customs you will observe.

 

The bride’s parents lose face if no sinsod.  They would probably rather borrow the money to show the guests (telling them you paid) rather than suffer the ignominy of admitting you paid no sinsod.

 

A lot of parents will give it to the bride after the wedding.

 

Another cultural point to bear in mind “YOU” pay for the wedding.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The average American wedding, including all expenses such as the rings, ceremony and reception, comes in at a whopping $33,900! 

 

Same human trafficking???

IMO anyone paying that much for a wedding ( the bride's parents? ) must be loaded or stupid.

Couple promising to God to live till death parts- lies lies lies in 50% of marriages.

[1FinickyOne]

46 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

The Bridesmoney (Dowry) was a negotiation in front of our dinner and a beer after a day sugar cane harvest... 

No special event or announced with drums and trumpets.. 

 

2002 I asked my wife to pay the respect to father (widow) and we had from day one a tight bond because he was former Thai Reconnaisance and I was German Seal. 

Within one year he was my father and I his only son..

Luckily, money was never standing between us.

 

I also have a good relationship with the father for over 20 years now... and i never really thought about it, I guess it began when I gave him 2x the dowry he asked for... he is a very nice man. 

[quake]

29 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Legally & culturally, parents can do no wrong. Parents can sue children but not vice-versa.

So mum stabs and kills her 24 year old daughter.

that's legal, according to you. 

 

[JBChiangRai]

16 minutes ago, quake said:

So mum stabs and kills her 24 year old daughter.

that's legal, according to you. 

 

Don’t be an idiot

[TigerandDog]

Tell them 100k baht ONLY and it MUST be refunded in full as they don't need it and it's only for show for those attending the wedding. If they don't agree then there's no wedding to be had and that the 2 of you will just live together.

[quake]

39 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Don’t be an idiot

Ah name calling now. because your wrong. what a laugh.

The go home post,  before. even more funny.

What a card you are. 

 

[quake]

2 hours ago, Reginald Prewster said:

 he was former Thai Reconnaisance and I was German Seal. 

Was that you,  I was talking to in pattaya last week

at that gogo bar on beach road.

[Straight8]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

1m other ladies. Sin sot is a scam.

I agree, but a bit too late for this chaps, it's basically set. It's all on their terms now, especially since the bride agrees the 1 million baht Sinsod is reasonable.

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The cost of an average American wedding does not include a purchase price for the bride, it's just a party.

No, payment is deferred until the divorce.

[dunroaming]

On 9/13/2023 at 1:16 PM, BritManToo said:

Easy answer is just live together, no marriage.

I lived together with my Thai wife for nearly two years before we got married.  Then we went to the local government office in Hang Dong on a Monday morning, joined the queue, signed the relevant paperwork and then went food shopping at Tesco Lotus.  No fuss and no temple ceremony.  That was all suggested by my wife.  No sinsod asked for or paid.  My wife's family are comfortably off  and respected their daughters decision to do it that way.

 

It was explained to me at the time that if I had been Thai then it would have been much more of an event and sinsod would have been paid (which would have been immediately returned after the ceremony).  And the sinsod is shown on the day.  That is what happened with both of my wife's sisters.  This was twenty four years ago now but by some miracle she still puts up with me  even today