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Getting permission for a long term stay for my 95 year old parent.

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How does that work? I'm assuming that I'm going to have to provide some proof of means  to pay for medical care since I suspect the Thai govt doesn't want to end up being stuck with the burden of medical expenses.

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  • Perhaps the 20-year Elite visa is not the best option...

  • The web page to which you have given a link is of little use because it uses "visa" and "extension or stay" interchangeably to mean the same thing. Quite useless, really.

  • You need to check your facts. A non-o marriage or a non-o retirement visa is for one year and can be renewed indefinitely (as long as you meet the requirements). Neither marriage nor retirement visa

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He can obtain a non O retirement in home country. (best to provide that detail) 

Having entered Thailand with that visa he would receive a 90 day stamp.

He will need a Thai bank account.

That Non O visa would/should enable him to open a bank account.

He can then deposit 800k in that bank and be given a 12 month extension.

 

Having stated all of that he would be best off at 95 to have an agent do all of the above.

No funds in bank required.

However does need a Thai bank account. (agents can do that also) 

Going this route he could even enter visa exempt or tourist visa.

Immigration will not impose any "extra requirements" due to age..

No requirement for insurance for a Non O retirement and subsequent extension.

 

It would also help if you indicate where your father plans to live in Thailand..

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

2 hours ago, jippytum said:

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

I'm not sure I understand Jipputum. I came in on a non-O visa 8 years ago. (I had a Thai wife if that makes a difference) After 90 days I extended for a year based on retirement. I have extended each year afterwards based on retirement. Are you referring to something else?

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2 hours ago, jippytum said:

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

Of course you can, I have a non O issued  by the Royal Thai Embassy in London on the 10th May 2018

There is a visa known as a 'Dependent's Visa' and as far as I can tell there's no financial requirements. That would make sense of course as the applicant is dependent on someone else. Parent on son in your case. 

have a look at this web site.

 

https://magnacarta.co.th/home/thailand-corporate-business/visa-services/thailand-dependent-visa/

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3 hours ago, jippytum said:

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

Sorry should have read none O visa extension in your home country

You’ll have to get a 1-year visa & do yearly renewals. 

If he has the funds (selling everything back home perhaps) he could get an Elite Visa. God bless him if he lives to renew it. :wai:

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3 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

If he has the funds (selling everything back home perhaps) he could get an Elite Visa. God bless him if he lives to renew it. :wai:

Perhaps the 20-year Elite visa is not the best option...

5 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Perhaps the 20-year Elite visa is not the best option...

Hence the last statement. It would, however lessen the requirements for trips to the IO and the need for annual spending. :wai:

4 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Hence the last statement. It would, however lessen the requirements for trips to the IO and the need for annual spending. :wai:

Just sometimes people I have on ignore I opt to read their post.

Maybe I was wrong.

 

So I read your previous 2 posts suggesting PE visa for 95 year old.

Get real ...most foolish suggestion 

 

22 hours ago, placeholder said:

How does that work? I'm assuming that I'm going to have to provide some proof of means  to pay for medical care since I suspect the Thai govt doesn't want to end up being stuck with the burden of medical expenses.

 

Knowing what type of one-year extension of stay, if any, you have would help in giving you useful advice.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

11 hours ago, jippytum said:

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

You can in the United States, I presume the same in many other countries. It only gives you the initial 90 day permission to stay on entry.

13 hours ago, jippytum said:

You can not obtain an non o incorrectly referred to as a  retirement visa in your home country. 

 

Well, the official name would probably be be "Non-immigrant visa category O for the purpose of travelling to Thailand for the reason of retirement". Calling it a "retirement visa" would seem an acceptable and comprehensible abbreviation.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

10 hours ago, jippytum said:

Sorry should have read none O visa extension in your home country

 

There is no "none O visa extension in your home country"

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

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11 hours ago, Moonlover said:

There is a visa known as a 'Dependent's Visa' and as far as I can tell there's no financial requirements. That would make sense of course as the applicant is dependent on someone else. Parent on son in your case. 

have a look at this web site.

 

https://magnacarta.co.th/home/thailand-corporate-business/visa-services/thailand-dependent-visa/

 

The web page to which you have given a link is of little use because it uses "visa" and "extension or stay" interchangeably to mean the same thing. Quite useless, really.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

10 hours ago, CecilM said:

You’ll have to get a 1-year visa & do yearly renewals. 

 

A "1-year visa", ie a visa for travel to Thailand within one year from its date of issue, would have to be a multiple-entry non-O visa, which the OP's father does not need.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

2 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

The web page to which you have given a link is of little use because it uses "visa" and "extension or stay" interchangeably to mean the same thing. Quite useless, really.

Do you have any, more helpful suggestions for the O/P?

4 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

A "1-year visa", ie a visa for travel to Thailand within one year from its date of issue, would have to be a multiple-entry non-O visa, which the OP's father does not need.

Not entirely true. A Retirement visa is also one year. 
There is no long term visa for Thailand (at least none that applies to the OP).

1 hour ago, CecilM said:

Not entirely true. A Retirement visa is also one year. 
There is no long term visa for Thailand (at least none that applies to the OP).

There is no such thing as a Retirement Visa.

49 minutes ago, Lite Beer said:

There is no such thing as a Retirement Visa.

Of course there is.

Retirement Visa.

Marriage Visa.

Both are one-year Non-O visas. 

46 minutes ago, CecilM said:

Of course there is.

Retirement Visa.

Marriage Visa.

Both are one-year Non-O visas. 

A Multi Entry Non O Visa is valid for 12 months from date of issue and gives multiple stays of up to 90 days each entry.

A maximum of 15 months stay can be obtained if used correctly.

This Visa can be obtained for a multitude of reasons including Marriage to a Thai National or Retirement if over 50.

 

4 hours ago, CecilM said:

Not entirely true. A Retirement visa is also one year. 
There is no long term visa for Thailand (at least none that applies to the OP).

The Non O-A (long stay) visa is the only visa that can somewhat accurately be described as a one-year retirement visa. It is most definitely not recommended for the OP.

 

The Non O visa as a dependant (giving an initial 90-day stay) followed by a one year extension of the initial permission to stay at immigration, followed by annual extensions has already been suggested and seems appropriate. Assuming visits to the Immigration office are to be avoided, and the elderly parent will not be in a care home, it might be worth employing an agent to simplify matters (though a relative should be able to arrange matters at most immigration offices without an agent's help).

 

While (currently) no health insurance is required, it is prudent to have plans for how medical expenses will be managed. Most forms of medical treatment will not be provided without proof of the ability to pay.

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4 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

A Multi Entry Non O Visa is valid for 12 months from date of issue and gives multiple stays of up to 90 days each entry.

A maximum of 15 months stay can be obtained if used correctly.

This Visa can be obtained for a multitude of reasons including Marriage to a Thai National or Retirement if over 50.

 

You need to check your facts. A non-o marriage or a non-o retirement visa is for one year and can be renewed indefinitely (as long as you meet the requirements).
Neither marriage nor retirement visa have anything to do with non-o multiple entries, each for 90 days.

 

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15 minutes ago, CecilM said:

You need to check your facts. A non-o marriage or a non-o retirement visa is for one year and can be renewed indefinitely (as long as you meet the requirements).
Neither marriage nor retirement visa have anything to do with non-o multiple entries, each for 90 days.

The usual confusion between visas and permissions to stay, sigh! It is pointless to expect people to generally use the correct terminology, but posts like the above are especially irritating. You cannot renew a "visa", only apply for a new one. A single entry Non O visa provides a 90-day permission to stay. A multiple entry Non O visa allows unlimited 90-day permissions to stay on each entry up until the expiry date of the visa (one year after the date of issue). Extensions of your permission to stay (which are not visas) are available for many purposes. Those for marriage and for retirement are for one year each time.

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I just want to thank everyone for chiming in here - even those who may have got it wrong. This has been extremely useful.

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