1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

I disagree.

 

   I have the feeling that he has some psychological issues about being of a European Caucasian decent living on other peoples land and subconsciously feels guilty and taking Aborigines land , this guilt manifests  into support of the Palestinians and rather than facing up to his own Countries history , he criticises Jews for moving from Europe to a different continent . (Not to mention that Jews were moving back to where they originated from and Caucasians didn't originate in Aboriginal Australia) 

   I don't believe that he has evil intent though

   

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I have the feeling that he has some psychological issues about being of a European Caucasian decent living on other peoples land and subconsciously feels guilty and taking Aborigines land , this guilt manifests  into support of the Palestinians and rather than facing up to his own Countries history , he criticises Jews for moving from Europe to a different continent . (Not to mention that Jews were moving back to where they originated from and Caucasians didn't originate in Aboriginal Australia) 

   I don't believe that he has evil intent though

   

 

I wouldn't know, and not getting into this.

I base my comments on what he posts.

25 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Going by your posts......should we be worried, then?

Which posts, the ones where I've repeatedly stated I am an atheist?

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Which posts, the ones where I've repeatedly stated I am an atheist?

 

Refer to 'believe absurdities', as in your post.

Considering your wrapped take on reality, even in the simple context of what's going on in this forum topic, what you 'repeatedly state' carries little by way of meaning or weight.

Hezbollah mocks Hamas leaders luxurious lives, while Gazans suffer

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b111jtf6zp

 

Guess not everyone is eager to commit suicide for the cause.

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

You could not be more wrong.

 

The root cause is deep and vile hatred. Hatred of Jews who dare to form their country in the center of Muslim lands. The depraved attack and atrocities of October 7 were not a political act.  They were simple savagery.  If Hamas wanted to target the IDF, they could have easily done so. But instead, the cowards chose to rape and murder and desecrate civilians. 

 

I guess the Jews could all just leave, and go to another Jewish country...... oh wait. Nevermind. 

Is this a joke?

 

Your response to "the root cause of this conflict is about land" is to state that this "could not be more wrong" and then immediately follow up with the hatred of Jews arises from......

 

Jews who dare to form their country in the centre of Muslim lands.

 

Yep, not about land at all.

 

BTW - What on earth makes anyone think that Jews deserve a Jewish country? Can you name any other landless group in the world that deserves someone else's land to be illegally appropriated and handed over to them?

 

 

2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Is this a joke?

 

Your response to "the root cause of this conflict is about land" is to state that this "could not be more wrong" and then immediately follow up with the hatred of Jews arises from......

 

Jews who dare to form their country in the centre of Muslim lands.

 

Yep, not about land at all.

 

BTW - What on earth makes anyone think that Jews deserve a Jewish country? Can you name any other landless group in the world that deserves someone else's land to be illegally appropriated and handed over to them?

 

 

Well, there are 55 Muslim countries with more than a billion people, so what is wrong with one small Jewish country with one percent of that number?

 

"Not about land" means that there is no solution that would involve Israel giving some land to the Palestinians. The only solution as far as Hamas is concerned is that all Jews are killed. The ever popular "two state solution" is not possible.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Morch said:

Hezbollah mocks Hamas leaders luxurious lives, while Gazans suffer

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b111jtf6zp

 

Guess not everyone is eager to commit suicide for the cause.

Interesting, it was only 4 days ago Hamas made a rare public appeal to Hezbollah for help.

 

Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’ decision-making political bureau, said in an interview that “we need more” from allies, including Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon, in light of an Israeli air campaign that Palestinian health officials say has killed more than 7,000 people, mostly civilians, in the besieged Gaza Strip.

https://apnews.com/article/hamas-ghazi-hamad-israel-gaza-hezbollah-iran-ee10f09cf1ffe34ab68cff7987b49f53#:~:text=in the region.-,Ghazi Hamad%2C a member of Hamas' decision-making political,in the besieged Gaza Strip.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Are you serious? People can have any number of reasons having that (or whatever number) in their profile names.

You'll find Israelis on social media with the same.

 

 

Claimed to have met Arafat, so unless he was 16 at the time, unlikely. Also implied extensive US government experience, doubt he's 37.

 

More importantly @Walker88 is not the topic.

 

Could be the birth year of their child, the year they graduated or first got laid, the point is it to label someone as an antisemite because of two digits in a username is ridiculous.

 

But that is the level that you guys operate at isn't it.

 

Someone prefers chocolate ice cream over vanilla = antisemite

Someone ties their left shoelace before their right one = antisemite

Someone once enjoyed a pilsner = antisemite

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Could be the birth year of their child, the year they graduated or first got laid, the point is it to label someone as an antisemite because of two digits in a username is ridiculous.

 

But that is the level that you guys operate at isn't it.

 

Someone prefers chocolate ice cream over vanilla = antisemite

Someone ties their left shoelace before their right one = antisemite

Someone once enjoyed a pilsner = antisemite

Someone continually posts Hamas apologist rantings - anti-Semite 

6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

 

BTW - What on earth makes anyone think that Jews deserve a Jewish country? Can you name any other landless group in the world that deserves someone else's land to be illegally appropriated and handed over to them?

 

 

 

   Israelis got their land legally, it was Australians who didn't get "someone else's"  land legally 

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

You are many things, the arbiter of other posters' humanity ain't one of them.

As for 'cult' and the rest of your wild accusations, take a long look at the mirror.

The current war is not about land, unless you refer to Hamas's attempt to seize Israeli towns, settlements and so on.

Israel has little interest in ruling the Gaza Strip.

 

As for who thinks the deaths of so many innocents a price worth paying:

 

Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mashaal-hamas-well-aware-of-consequences-of-attack-liberation-demands-sacrifices/ar-AA1izHNf

 

You take your moral cues from leaders of terrorist organisations?

Charming.

It has been confirmed that the young German-Israeli woman Shani Louk is dead after a fragment of her skull was found and identified through DNA testing. An Israeli government spokesman said that she would have died on the day of the attack because “you cannot live without this piece of of the skull that sits right at the back of the head and is connected to the rest of the body”

 

Her body is thought to still be in Gaza where she was taken to be paraded through the streets on a pick up truck with thousands of “innocent” Palestinians cheering, spitting on her limp, naked body and hitting it with sticks. The IDF said they will try to recover her remains to bring back to Israel.

 

Another word on the “innocent” Palestinian civilians.In a survey carried out by Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki in June this year, 79% of Gazans and 71% of all Palestinians, polled in favour of forming more armed gangs like the “Lions Den” and “Jenin Battalion” to attack Israel.

 

To be clear, the blood of every innocent Palestinian killed in Gaza is on the hands of Hamas, and nobody else; they knew what the response would be, yet they hide behind, alongside, but mostly underneath, the civilians of Gaza. Hamas are only distinguishable from ISIS, insomuch as they have displayed a level of depraved barbarity even beyond that of ISIS. Hamas are a terrorist organisation, nothing more, nothing less; they care nothing whatsoever for the civilian population of Gaza, and anyone that supports them is either an unequivocal supporter of terrorism, or educationally sub-normal; possibly both.    

 

4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Could be the birth year of their child, the year they graduated or first got laid, the point is it to label someone as an antisemite because of two digits in a username is ridiculous.

 

But that is the level that you guys operate at isn't it.

 

Someone prefers chocolate ice cream over vanilla = antisemite

Someone ties their left shoelace before their right one = antisemite

Someone once enjoyed a pilsner = antisemite

 

   He agrees with you in regards to the  88 number in the name

But once again you resort to making things up .

In regards to Ice cream, shoelaces and pilsner, no one has been accused on anti Semitism for that. 

More untruths from you 

 

9 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Is this a joke?

 

Your response to "the root cause of this conflict is about land" is to state that this "could not be more wrong" and then immediately follow up with the hatred of Jews arises from......

 

Jews who dare to form their country in the centre of Muslim lands.

 

Yep, not about land at all.

 

BTW - What on earth makes anyone think that Jews deserve a Jewish country? Can you name any other landless group in the world that deserves someone else's land to be illegally appropriated and handed over to them?

 

 

 Only Jews were there two thousand years before muslims existed and muslims went on to occupy many Christian countries for hundreds of years, including N Africa and Spain. Except for Rome Islam invaded and occupied all the great centres of Christianity, Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria and Constantinople. Muslims moaning about Israel existing and 'stealing' their land are just hypocrites who don't even know their own history of occupation.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

When you say 'land theft' (from whom?) and reference post 1945, you're essentially objecting to Israel's very existence.

So basically, adopting Hamas position.

 

Hamas is not interested in compromise. You're into the 'river-to-the-sea' territory now.

 

 

 

From whom did Israel steal the land?

What a terribly sad question to be asked by one, who I presume, believes themselves to be at least reasonably well educated.

 

I am objecting to the reasons given for creating Israel.

Israel's sole right to continue existing is that it exists.

Much like abortions, at a certain point it becomes murder to kill the unborn child - Israel has passed that point and so has a right to exist.

 

Hamas is not interested in compromise just as many Zionists are not interested in compromise.

Should both sides accept being held hostage by their own extremist minorities?

 

River to the sea and sea to the river, again, should both sides accept being held hostage by their own extremist minorities?

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

It has been confirmed that the young German-Israeli woman Shani Louk is dead after a fragment of her skull was found and identified through DNA testing. An Israeli government spokesman said that she would have died on the day of the attack because “you cannot live without this piece of of the skull that sits right at the back of the head and is connected to the rest of the body”

 

Her body is thought to still be in Gaza where she was taken to be paraded through the streets on a pick up truck with thousands of “innocent” Palestinians cheering, spitting on her limp, naked body and hitting it with sticks. The IDF said they will try to recover her remains to bring back to Israel.

 

Another word on the “innocent” Palestinian civilians.In a survey carried out by Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki in June this year, 79% of Gazans and 71% of all Palestinians, polled in favour of forming more armed gangs like the “Lions Den” and “Jenin Battalion” to attack Israel.

 

To be clear, the blood of every innocent Palestinian killed in Gaza is on the hands of Hamas, and nobody else; they knew what the response would be, yet they hide behind, alongside, but mostly underneath, the civilians of Gaza. Hamas are only distinguishable from ISIS, insomuch as they have displayed a level of depraved barbarity even beyond that of ISIS. Hamas are a terrorist organisation, nothing more, nothing less; they care nothing whatsoever for the civilian population of Gaza, and anyone that supports them is either an unequivocal supporter of terrorism, or educationally sub-normal; possibly both.    

 

 

 

    The fragment of her skull must have been found in the location of the field where she was attacked in Israel and the later reports from her hostage takers that she was still alive must have been lies by them .

   Why would the terrorists lie about her still being alive ?

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

    The fragment of her skull must have been found in the location of the field where she was attacked in Israel and the later reports from her hostage takers that she was still alive must have been lies by them .

   Why would the terrorists lie about her still being alive ?

To be honest, looking at her twisted body in the back of the truck, it was obvious she was no longer alive.

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

To be honest, looking at her twisted body in the back of the truck, it was obvious she was no longer alive.

 

Let's hope she was already dead by that point.   One can only imagine the horrors inflicted by Hamas on her if she did indeed live past that point.  

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

    The fragment of her skull must have been found in the location of the field where she was attacked in Israel and the later reports from her hostage takers that she was still alive must have been lies by them .

   Why would the terrorists lie about her still being alive ?

 

Yes, it was found near the site of the attack, I should have made that clear in my comment.

29 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Well, there are 55 Muslim countries with more than a billion people, so what is wrong with one small Jewish country with one percent of that number?

 

"Not about land" means that there is no solution that would involve Israel giving some land to the Palestinians. The only solution as far as Hamas is concerned is that all Jews are killed. The ever popular "two state solution" is not possible.

 

 

Not just land, according to an Israeli human rights organisation. 

 

The key tool Israel uses to implement the principle of Jewish supremacy is engineering space geographically, demographically and politically. Jews go about their lives in a single, contiguous space where they enjoy full rights and self-determination. In contrast, Palestinians live in a space that is fragmented into several units, each with a different set of rights – given or denied by Israel, but always inferior to the rights accorded to Jews.

 

https://www.btselem.org/apartheid

Reported post edited.

 

If you are going to use content from elsewhere, please ensure that the posting is of the correct format NOT oversized, and that you adhere to "fair use" policy and restrict the article to a couple of sentences before adding the link to the source.

 

Thank you.

29 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

It has been confirmed that the young German-Israeli woman Shani Louk is dead after a fragment of her skull was found and identified through DNA testing. An Israeli government spokesman said that she would have died on the day of the attack because “you cannot live without this piece of of the skull that sits right at the back of the head and is connected to the rest of the body”

 

Her body is thought to still be in Gaza where she was taken to be paraded through the streets on a pick up truck with thousands of “innocent” Palestinians cheering, spitting on her limp, naked body and hitting it with sticks. The IDF said they will try to recover her remains to bring back to Israel.

 

Another word on the “innocent” Palestinian civilians.In a survey carried out by Palestinian pollster Khalil Shikaki in June this year, 79% of Gazans and 71% of all Palestinians, polled in favour of forming more armed gangs like the “Lions Den” and “Jenin Battalion” to attack Israel.

 

To be clear, the blood of every innocent Palestinian killed in Gaza is on the hands of Hamas, and nobody else; they knew what the response would be, yet they hide behind, alongside, but mostly underneath, the civilians of Gaza. Hamas are only distinguishable from ISIS, insomuch as they have displayed a level of depraved barbarity even beyond that of ISIS. Hamas are a terrorist organisation, nothing more, nothing less; they care nothing whatsoever for the civilian population of Gaza, and anyone that supports them is either an unequivocal supporter of terrorism, or educationally sub-normal; possibly both.    

 

Thankfully she had already passed away before the Hamas demons BEHEADED her and desecrated her body. 

 

I would call them animals, but that is an insult to the animals of the world. They are worse. Think about it for a minute. What kind of person would take the dead body of a murder victim, parade it around in their car, let their 'friends' abuse it, and then finally behead it?  There can be no reasoning with people like this.

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

To be honest, looking at her twisted body in the back of the truck, it was obvious she was no longer alive.

 

    Yes, she looked deceased in the back of the truck on the day  , but a few days later Hamas announced that she survived and was still alive 

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Yes, she looked deceased in the back of the truck on the day  , but a few days later Hamas announced that she survived and was still alive 

What kind of depravity does it take to strip a dead young woman and parade her lifeless body around in a truck? Or to join the cheering crowd and spit on her as they drive by? Or to offer her body the final desecration before discarding it?  

 

Makes me wonder how many truly "innocent" civilians there actually are in Gaza. 

Just now, Neeranam said:

More mumbo jumbo. I said nothing at all about babies.

I did and your response was "mumbo jumbo," don't you think your remark was a trifle callous, truth hurts does it?

Religion and Humanity, what a wonderful combination of deleted ups

8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

What is antisemitism but taking undesirable traits and labelling an entire people as inherently embodying those traits.

 

Congrats you are well on your way down the road that many holocaust deniers have eagerly trod.

Show me the cheering crowds of Israelis as dead Palestinians are paraded through the streets of Tel Aviv and I will begin to listen to you. 

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I did and your response was "mumbo jumbo," don't you think your remark was a trifle callous, truth hurts does it?

What truth?

 

What has babies being cut from their mothers have to do with what I wrote? Jeez. 

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Is this a joke?

 

Your response to "the root cause of this conflict is about land" is to state that this "could not be more wrong" and then immediately follow up with the hatred of Jews arises from......

 

Jews who dare to form their country in the centre of Muslim lands.

 

Yep, not about land at all.

 

BTW - What on earth makes anyone think that Jews deserve a Jewish country? Can you name any other landless group in the world that deserves someone else's land to be illegally appropriated and handed over to them?

 

 

 

That it was 'someone else's land' is not agreed upon.

That's your position.

 

As for denying this group or that group have a right for independence, state, sovereignty - why would Jews be excluded from such a right?