9 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

This war could have been ended by exchanging the hostages and giving back all autonomous rights and advantages that Palestinians would have as an independent country. 

 

By "manufactured" or "forced" or "inevitable"  I think he means it's part of a serial manufacturing of destruction in the region for his own people and the Palestinians by just not applying international law for Palestinians under the legacy of Netanyahu.

And we just forgive the crimes do we from the 7th, in the real world things don't happen like that. Hamas has vowed to carry on killing Israelis, doesn't that strike a chord with you, do the Israelis wait for the next Palestinian incursion and forgive them again, not going to happen the Israelis think more of their own citizens than the enemy. 

BTW, has Palestine stopped firing rockets into Israel yet, because soon they won't have any. 

21 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Yeah, that I why I asked the poster. Not that interested in your 'interpretations' .

As for your first line, I'm aware that you're all for appeasement of terrorists, thanks.

 

I try to make friends with Israeli/Jewish people here on AN.

 

If you decide one day to be my friend I will earn 1 point as per Nick Carter scoreboard. One point is enough.

These points are important for future online discussions on AN.

 

I won't be called again a Hamas-lover, Holocaust denier, antisemitic, etc...

A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordon river to the Mediterranean Sea:

 

https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have anything that supports your claims? If not, you are probably a lying, antisemite. 

 

He pointed out the +4.000 children killed/murdered as per his source. You can't qualify these children as "human shields", "collateral damage" or "Hamas combatants"....

Remove all politicians of the world, and life returns to normal.

Stuff wars.

Just now, talahtnut said:

Remove all politicians of the world, and life returns to normal.

Stuff wars.

And Religious Zealots

7 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I try to make friends with Israeli/Jewish people here on AN.

 

If you decide one day to be my friend I will earn 1 point as per Nick Carter scoreboard. One point is enough.

These points are important for future online discussions on AN.

 

I won't be called again a Hamas-lover, Holocaust denier, antisemitic, etc...

 

You're fishing. It's almost cute.

You'll be called all that, plus a troll. Never Forget.

3 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

He pointed out the +4.000 children killed/murdered as per his source. You can't qualify these children as "human shields", "collateral damage" or "Hamas combatants"....

 

Why not?

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

And Religious Zealots

 

And antisemitic pretentious cooks.

    United Nations says no life-saving fuel has been allowed into Gaza since October 7, risking the lives of 2.3 million Palestinians as essential services close.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-says-it-is-open-gaza-fighting-pauses-aid-hostages-2023-11-07/

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

To support your claim that 

 The mainstream media (at least in the US) is hard-left, and the hard-left loves them some hamas. 

 

Just look at the headlines.

19 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

And we just forgive the crimes do we from the 7th, in the real world things don't happen like that. Hamas has vowed to carry on killing Israelis, doesn't that strike a chord with you, do the Israelis wait for the next Palestinian incursion and forgive them again, not going to happen the Israelis think more of their own citizens than the enemy. 

BTW, has Palestine stopped firing rockets into Israel yet, because soon they won't have any. 

 

It worked in the past for South Africa and Algeria to implement amnesty.

 

This means, both parties agree that war/conflicts stops and that full forgiveness will be granted.

This requires courage, wisdom and intelligence to force yourself and your enemy to live together under any circumstances (conditions).

Just now, Morch said:

 

And antisemitic pretentious cooks.

Yes, I know if you are against a right-wing Apartheid State your obviously antisemitic, who'd of guessed. 

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

It worked in the past for South Africa and Algeria to implement amnesty.

 

This means, both parties agree that war/conflicts stops and that full forgiveness will be granted.

This requires courage, wisdom and intelligence to force yourself and your enemy to live together under any circumstances (conditions).

 

Hamas does not seem interested in this.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, I know if you are against a right-wing Apartheid State your obviously antisemitic, who'd of guessed. 

 

No, you are against Jews. Made it blatantly clear already, Jeff.

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, I know if you are against a right-wing Apartheid State your obviously antisemitic, who'd of guessed. 

It only works one way 

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Hamas does not seem interested in this.

 

Both you need to be interested to live in society/community.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

    United Nations says no life-saving fuel has been allowed into Gaza since October 7, risking the lives of 2.3 million Palestinians as essential services close.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-e

ast/israel-says-it-is-open-gaza-fighting-pauses-aid-hostages-2023-11-07/

 

From your link: "Gaza services are close to "breaking point" without fuel supplies, the U.N. humanitarian office said on Tuesday. Gaza's interior ministry said on Tuesday all bakeries in northern Gaza are out of service due to Israeli attacks and lack of fuel."

 

No fresh bread is life threatening? 

Back to reality

 

A senior Hamas leader has refused to acknowledge that his group killed civilians in Israel, claiming only conscripts were targeted.

 

Moussa Abu Marzouk told the BBC that "women, children and civilians were exempt" from Hamas's attacks.

 

His claims are in stark contrast to the wealth of evidence of Hamas men shooting unarmed adults and children

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67321241

 

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Why not?

 

Children are always innocent.

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

Both you need to be interested to live in society/community.

 

Yes, and we just ruled out one.

Hamas Charter does not align with your new line of nonsense.

Maybe sort this first, then get back to the topic.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

No, you are against Jews. Made it blatantly clear already, Jeff.

Well let me state very clearly to you I am not against all Jews, only the ones who wish to rule by Apartheid and oppression, there are [plenty of Jews who are not in the Apartheid camp. Is that clear enough for you and your cohorts.

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

Children are always innocent.

Why did Hamas kill and kidnap so many on 7th Oct

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

Children are always innocent.

 

That does not seem to prevent Hamas from using them as human shields.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Well let me state very clearly to you I am not against all Jews, only the ones who wish to rule by Apartheid and oppression, there are [plenty of Jews who are not in the Apartheid camp. Is that clear enough for you and your cohorts.

 

Too late to deny, Jeff. You've already made your Jews-control-the-world outing post.

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

Both you need to be interested to live in society/community.

When Israel pulled out of Gaza, was it not an attempt at a two-state solution? 

 

Palestine wants the eradication of Israel, they do not want a two-state solution. They pretend they want a two-state solution every now and then to keep the money and sympathy coming in.

 

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Too late to deny, Jeff. You've already made your Jews-control-the-world outing post.

I kept a screenshot for prosperity 

Just now, Morch said:

 

Too late to deny, Jeff. You've already made your Jews-control-the-world outing post.

And what is the problem with that, is it a lie, if so please prove otherwise.

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Well let me state very clearly to you I am not against all Jews, only the ones who wish to rule by Apartheid and oppression, there are [plenty of Jews who are not in the Apartheid camp. Is that clear enough for you and your cohorts.

 

What makes you think Israel operates and apartheid state? 20%+ of the population are Arabs, are you claiming they have less rights, are bared from jobs and services and are forced to live in certain areas?

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Well let me state very clearly to you I am not against all Jews, only the ones who wish to rule by Apartheid and oppression, there are [plenty of Jews who are not in the Apartheid camp. Is that clear enough for you and your cohorts.

It's crystal clear, they just can't accept that for some weird reason. So black and white. 

Ironically, they probably hate Muslims, but no one ever accuses them of being racist.