Testereone fanatics

[georgegeorgia]

18 hours ago, JimTripper said:

i gave up lifting weights at about 50 years old. no muscle gains and body fat increasing much faster, so why do it? if you're over 50 looking for muscle gains is it worth it? or maybe you just like a tough challenge (but no need for testosterone for that).

 

swimming, bike riding, rowing now. still on a strap water rower though, and not a magnetic one like the really old guys use for flexibility 😅.

How would that happen if your lifting weights?

[JimTripper]

41 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

How would that happen if your lifting weights?

i don't lift weights anymore, just swim and row. i never really enjoyed lifting, and don't like being in a gym. i just did it when younger for muscle gain.

 

some people may like the activity of lifting just for the enjoyment even if the muscle gains are minimal as you get older, but probably not many people. thus the testosterone use.

 

contrast this for me with swimming. i would do it even if the fitness was not there. just enjoy the activity. no need for testosterone then.

[JensenZ]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I will try it as soon as I can afford it regularly. It's mainly what Stallone has used over the years. You do need to be tested regularly by a sports doctor for any changes that aren't good. I just want to keep what I have for as long as possible. My joints were hurt by lifting so heavy for so long so I just work out lighter now. Problem here is that the only gym doesn't open until 2 PM, and I've been used to training early mornings for over 45 years.

You won't need to test for side effects as the number one, most common side effect is water retention. Extreme water retention which is dangerous. Joint pain in the hands and wrists is another common side effect. Another major problem was sleep apnea, caused by the water retention. Stallone didn't get his physique from growth hormone. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't used it for many years.

[JensenZ]

3 hours ago, JimTripper said:

I liked rowing for years, but I actually like swimming better now for the body workout. There's something about having to keep the body afloat over a longer period if time that feels much stronger then a rowing session.

 

 Have you ever rowed hard for 15 - 30 minutes on a Concept 2 rower? Swimming can get you out of breath quickly, but it doesn't build strength, especially core strength because you're floating. You're only pushing against water. An interesting point to consider with swimming is that most people are out of breath because they aren't getting enough air, rather than from the actual exercise. I've done a lot of swimming - I used to swim with a snorkel so getting sufficient air was never a problem.

 

I'm not saying it's not a good exercise, only that there are limitations and better ways to get fit and strong.

[fredwiggy]

21 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

You won't need to test for side effects as the number one, most common side effect is water retention. Extreme water retention which is dangerous. Joint pain in the hands and wrists is another common side effect. Another major problem was sleep apnea, caused by the water retention. Stallone didn't get his physique from growth hormone. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't used it for many years.

Stallone used it all the time, along with a few others. He was actually busted in Australia for bringing 48 vials. into the country. I was a personal trainer in 5 gyms for 16 years, and knew hundreds of users along with news on who did what. I was interested for awhile in HGH but never got around to trying it because I wanted to stay natural. I was built a lot like Stallone for many years, getting close to his ripped times without anything, and that's mainly why. I came close to his highest bench and was stronger in legs and deadlifts. My family is diabetes prone, so that' was another reason not to try HGH, as it can cause problems, along with joint pain which is my biggest problem because of extreme lifts for too many years. I know some get edema but not everyone.

[JimTripper]

27 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

 Have you ever rowed hard for 15 - 30 minutes on a Concept 2 rower? Swimming can get you out of breath quickly, but it doesn't build strength, especially core strength because you're floating. You're only pushing against water. An interesting point to consider with swimming is that most people are out of breath because they aren't getting enough air, rather than from the actual exercise. I've done a lot of swimming - I used to swim with a snorkel so getting sufficient air was never a problem.

 

I'm not saying it's not a good exercise, only that there are limitations and better ways to get fit and strong.

 

🤣 yep, that's true about the air. i'm always gasping like a fish out of water.

 

there is also a health issue of getting pool water in my mouth, eyes and ears all the time. it's a treated pool but you never know and the water is never really changed, just treated.

 

i have noticed body improvements (toning and losing weight, not so much stregth based) with the swimming that are equal to the rowing with seemingly less effort, but it could be due to other things 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[JensenZ]

On 10/28/2023 at 2:45 PM, fredwiggy said:

Stallone used it all the time, along with a few others. He was actually busted in Australia for bringing 48 vials. into the country. I was a personal trainer in 5 gyms for 16 years, and knew hundreds of users along with news on who did what. I was interested for awhile in HGH but never got around to trying it because I wanted to stay natural. I was built a lot like Stallone for many years, getting close to his ripped times without anything, and that's mainly why. I came close to his highest bench and was stronger in legs and deadlifts. My family is diabetes prone, so that' was another reason not to try HGH, as it can cause problems, along with joint pain which is my biggest problem because of extreme lifts for too many years. I know some get edema but not everyone.

It was a long time ago that Stallone was caught with hgh entering Australia. We have no idea if he still uses it, but I doubt it. Stallone is not a big guy and the reason he looks so jacked on the big screen is due to his very low body fat that he maintains when necessary for movie roles. Stallone builds his muscles with testosterone and hard work.

 

Ever wonder why the golden era bodybuilders looked better with no protruding guts? Internal organ growth? Those were the pre-hgh and insulin injecting days.

 

If you ever try hgh, you won't be on it for long - I'll put money on that. Bodybuilders have designed all types of injection protocols to limit the very significant side effects. One was to inject larger doses less frequently as daily doses causes a lot of problems.

[JensenZ]

On 10/28/2023 at 2:48 PM, JimTripper said:

 

🤣 yep, that's true about the air. i'm always gasping like a fish out of water.

 

there is also a health issue of getting pool water in my mouth, eyes and ears all the time. it's a treated pool but you never know and the water is never really changed, just treated.

 

i have noticed body improvements (toning and losing weight, not so much stregth based) with the swimming that are equal to the rowing with seemingly less effort, but it could be due to other things 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I swam miles and miles in my earlier years. I used to swim in the ocean rock pools back in Sydney, Australia when I lived there to avoid the dirty pool water and chlorine. Indoor pools are really bad as the whole atmosphere is chlorine laden and humid.

 

Sure, you can get into good shape swimming, but it takes longer to get there. If you're not getting enough air you can test it out by doing breaststroke or backstroke. If that's easier, then your problem with freestyle is lack of air, not lack of fitness. You can buy special swimmer's snorkels. You'll be amazed at how far and how much faster you can swim when air is not the limiting factor. It also prevents water from entering your mouth.

[JensenZ]

On 10/24/2023 at 3:50 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Isn't a side effect shrunken testicles, not sure the penis reduces, strangely ladyboys have a reputation for big ones and they take estrogen 

Of course, your testicles will shrink. If you inject testosterone, your own production will slow down and stop. This is a big problem for young guys on steroid cycles who need their balls at a later date, to start their own production again after their cycles. For old guys with natural testosterone production lower than girls the balls are already underperforming and there's not much use for big balls unless it's for cosmetic purposes. There are ways to preserve their size and current function, but that involves other injectables, specifically hcg, which is hard to get.

 

When you start TRT, it's a lifelong decision, so don't take it lightly. Get tested first. If you're in the normal range, don't start.

[JimTripper]

 

On 10/24/2023 at 3:50 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Isn't a side effect shrunken testicles, not sure the penis reduces, strangely ladyboys have a reputation for big ones and they take estrogen 

[connda]

On 10/12/2023 at 1:40 PM, ignore it said:

The reason there are so many clinics about is that for a lot of old studs, their things are just ain't popping up enough.

If their "things ain't popping up enough" it ain't about testosterone levels.  It's about coronary issues.
I'd source that statement but instead just search on erectile dysfunction and heart disease.

Adding testosterone to the equation is only adding to the problem.
 

[vangrop]

On 10/11/2023 at 4:59 PM, georgegeorgia said:

I'm putting this in the Pattaya forum.

The reason why is because my last 2 month stay in Pattaya the advertisement of testereone was everywhere from Pattaya  YouTubers to traffic lights adverts etc 

Clinics even advertising it.

 

Now I'm in my early 60's and I take it although I cut it down to very minimal amount monthly after growing breasts and getting high blood pressure,I was taking 250 a week sometime more .

 

I got very very scared after seeing a friend in Pattaya that helped me with visa assistance .... pass away sadly 

 

Starting on estrogen blockers I got from a fantastic Pattaya doctor who didn't want to put me on them,I noticed shortness of breath ,it went eventually 

 

I was lifting weights twice a day at tonys gym 

 

Anyone thinking because it's overadvertised in Pattaya and it's the "in" thing please think again ,it's no super thing 

 

These clinics are popping up second to the cannabis

I bet you are one the sters too

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, connda said:

If their "things ain't popping up enough" it ain't about testosterone levels.  It's about coronary issues.
I'd source that statement but instead just search on erectile dysfunction and heart disease.

Adding testosterone to the equation is only adding to the problem.
 

Doesn't it help with libido? Someone told me years ago it did, he was having fortnightly injections

[bendejo]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:32 AM, Pattaya57 said:

I'm still wondering what Testereone is?

It's a Ferrari, right?  Or it's something to put on pizza.

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Doesn't it help with libido? Someone told me years ago it did, he was having fortnightly injections

No not really, I find I get "morning wood"  hard ons but after that you still need Viagra etc.

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, vangrop said:

I bet you are one the sters too

Steroids? No, I'm 62 

Even the testereone has done damage 

It shoots your blood pressure right up ready for heart attack or stroke which has just reminded me as I write this to take my newly prescribed Amlodipine blood pressure medication which is caused by testereone

 

My BP went up to 180 after the injection 

 

My own GP in Australia has warned me to stop getting these testereone injections , he will prescribe stuff for the side effects but won't support me taking it 

 

I had to cut down my testereone to monthly as it can cause you opposite effects eg , growing breasts in which case you will need another medication called Anti Estrogen,which makes you heavy breathing out of breath side effects that's why you see powerlifters bodybuilders out of breath when being interviewed 

[CHdiver]

2 hours ago, JimTripper said:

 

I guess he will turn green very soon.....

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

No not really, I find I get "morning wood"  hard ons but after that you still need Viagra etc.

Libido is different to getting an erection, libido is wanting sex, may well still need Viagra etc, most in Pattaya need it

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Libido is different to getting an erection, libido is wanting sex, may well still need Viagra etc, most in Pattaya need it

Yes ,with me personally,I find getting that testereone injection makes me horny a few days after ,however no erection , the testicles are now also smaller.

However a few weeks ,maybe 4 weeks I will get tired , lethargy and hang out for another injection

 

I wish truly I never started this testereone injection 

[proton]

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Libido is different to getting an erection, libido is wanting sex, may well still need Viagra etc, most in Pattaya need it

 

Took that Thai herbal one you can get in 7/11 last week, mrs had to get me to stop after she had cum 7 times, not taking that again, too much like hard work!

[scubascuba3]

15 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes ,with me personally,I find getting that testereone injection makes me horny a few days after ,however no erection , the testicles are now also smaller.

However a few weeks ,maybe 4 weeks I will get tired , lethargy and hang out for another injection

 

I wish truly I never started this testereone injection 

Maybe I should start testosterone to get my testicles back to normal size

[JimTripper]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Doesn't it help with libido? Someone told me years ago it did, he was having fortnightly injections

i thought it pumped you in general, not just in that area.

 

your mind interprets it as increased libido, but it's really a whole body pump. similar to viagara, it juices your whole system but people focus on that one area because that's why they took it. that's why people can have heart attacks and what have you.

[JensenZ]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Steroids? No, I'm 62 

Even the testereone has done damage 

It shoots your blood pressure right up ready for heart attack or stroke which has just reminded me as I write this to take my newly prescribed Amlodipine blood pressure medication which is caused by testereone

 

My BP went up to 180 after the injection 

 

My own GP in Australia has warned me to stop getting these testereone injections , he will prescribe stuff for the side effects but won't support me taking it 

 

I had to cut down my testereone to monthly as it can cause you opposite effects eg , growing breasts in which case you will need another medication called Anti Estrogen,which makes you heavy breathing out of breath side effects that's why you see powerlifters bodybuilders out of breath when being interviewed 

I'm 64 and take frequent low-dose injections of Testosterone. I just checked my BP after a meal and coffee (not the best time to measure it) and it's perfect, at 118/70. I've been on TRT for many years and have never had high BP. I suggest you find another cause for your problem. Believe it or not, lots of people have high BP and don't use testosterone.

 

Also taking one shot a month is a bad idea. You'll only have the optimum test levels for a few days. It'll be too high in the first few days after an injection, and then gradually taper off to the levels of a girl after the first week. If the test levels are too high, you'll convert it to estradiol, and when the levels are too low, you'll have high estrogen too... it's a recipe for gynecomastia.

 

It's ridiculous to require "anti-estrogens" to counter side effects you shouldn't be getting if you keep your testosterone levels within normal range. It's difficult to do as you need frequent low-dose shots... the bare minimum would be once a week and not many people would be willing to do this.

 

The best way to keep your BP at a healthy level is regular exercise. Cardio will be best.

[scubascuba3]

16 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

i thought it pumped you in general, not just in that area.

 

your mind interprets it as increased libido, but it's really a whole body pump. similar to viagara, it juices your whole system but people focus on that one area because that's why they took it. that's why people can have heart attacks and what have you.

George says it doesn't help with an erection hence still needing dick pills

[JensenZ]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

George says it doesn't help with an erection hence still needing dick pills

Thinking too much about sex is like missing the forest for the trees.

 

Symptoms of low testosterone:

 

1. Brain fog

2. Lack of energy and drive

3. Indecisiveness

4. Listlessness

5. Depression

6. Irritability

7. Low sense of well-being

8. Low libido

9. Loss of muscle mass

10. Poor quality of sleep

 

Accepting low testosterone is giving up on life.

[georgegeorgia]

3 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Thinking too much about sex is like missing the forest for the trees.

 

Symptoms of low testosterone:

 

1. Brain fog

2. Lack of energy and drive

3. Indecisiveness

4. Listlessness

5. Depression

6. Irritability

7. Low sense of well-being

8. Low libido

9. Loss of muscle mass

10. Poor quality of sleep

 

Accepting low testosterone is giving up on life.

And  opposite can cause same effects , my tits started to grow , I had lethargy, I had to cut down ,my doctor told me to stop the testereone injection, prostate enlargement can lead to cancer he said yesterday

 

Blood pressure going down with medication 

Now slow peeing for some reason , probably prostate 

 

I have now 250ml injection monthly ,I will see how it goes 

 

I'm addicted to it ,I need that pump in the gym , I would take more if I could but the anti estrogen medicine I would have to take which made me so tired , I just take the testereone sometimes I'm in a rage at the gym at 62 lifting heavy but it wears off after a few weeks I need more 

 

If I stop posting you will know I have had a heart attack like my friend did in Pattaya last December, he got his weight up so much ,too much testereone doing powerlifting, RIP D 💜

[spidermike007]

Sometimes in life there's a real beauty to just accepting who you are, and where you're at. And if it's the "in thing" these days, I tend to run for the hills.

 

I don't want to have anything to do with anything that's super popular, being promoted on social media, in super high demand, or all the rage. 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

And  opposite can cause same effects , my tits started to grow , I had lethargy, I had to cut down ,my doctor told me to stop the testereone injection, prostate enlargement can lead to cancer he said yesterday

 

Blood pressure going down with medication 

Now slow peeing for some reason , probably prostate 

 

I have now 250ml injection monthly ,I will see how it goes 

 

I'm addicted to it ,I need that pump in the gym , I would take more if I could but the anti estrogen medicine I would have to take which made me so tired , I just take the testereone sometimes I'm in a rage at the gym at 62 lifting heavy but it wears off after a few weeks I need more 

 

If I stop posting you will know I have had a heart attack like my friend did in Pattaya last December, he got his weight up so much ,too much testereone doing powerlifting, RIP D 💜

 

Very sorry to hear about all of your self imposed issues. 

[JimTripper]

do you look like this guy?

[vangrop]

9 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Steroids? No, I'm 62 

Even the testereone has done damage 

It shoots your blood pressure right up ready for heart attack or stroke which has just reminded me as I write this to take my newly prescribed Amlodipine blood pressure medication which is caused by testereone

 

My BP went up to 180 after the injection 

 

My own GP in Australia has warned me to stop getting these testereone injections , he will prescribe stuff for the side effects but won't support me taking it 

 

I had to cut down my testereone to monthly as it can cause you opposite effects eg , growing breasts in which case you will need another medication called Anti Estrogen,which makes you heavy breathing out of breath side effects that's why you see powerlifters bodybuilders out of breath when being interviewed 

you have a very big problem man. i know a bodybuilder in my land was on the poison. became mister whatever  in Belgium and  got cancer on his balls. To be clear intercourse is past for him