Managing forum toxicity and negativity

[scubascuba3]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

Why do you want to argue with people online?

Same reason you do maybe?

[bignok]

Just now, RanongCat said:

Huh? Is it a forum for discussion or just a news service? Argue I want not. Debate yes.

Many topics turn into bickering and personal attacks. So boring. Nobody learns anything.

 

I like topics where I learn something. 

[bignok]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Same reason you do maybe?

Nice baiting. Better luck next time.

[hotandsticky]

Just now, bignok said:

Nice baiting. Better luck next time.

 

 

Coming from the Master baiter..............................that is some compliment.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

24 minutes ago, george said:

True. How should Mods handle these members? Be tough or lenient in moderating?

As you said George, what should happen, is that the members  block those 'regulars' they end up 'arguing' with.

We are all guilty of 'firing back' - but that is what they want - they thrive on it and need it (they are not well) - next thing you know you are responding to their taunts and their antagonistic drivel - muh guilty as charged.

I have solved the problem for myself - I have just blocked all those who seem to argue with everyone - noting that some of them never argue with each other - same person? certainly same type of person.

 

My earlier point, and that of others about also blocking them from seeing your posts should be implemented.

I dont want to see their posts and I dont want them seeing mine - that is the ideal fix.

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Coming from the Master baiter..............................that is some compliment.

 Bad troll. If you are going to troll at least put some thought into it.

[bignok]

7 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

As you said George, what should happen, is that the members  block those 'regulars' they end up 'arguing' with.

We are all guilty of 'firing back' - but that is what they want - they thrive on it and need it (they are not well) - next thing you know you are responding to their taunts and their antagonistic drivel - muh guilty as charged.

I have solved the problem for myself - I have just blocked all those who seem to argue with everyone - noting that some of them never argue with each other - same person? certainly same type of person.

 

My earlier point, and that of others about also blocking them from seeing your posts should be implemented.

I dont want to see their posts and I dont want them seeing mine - that is the ideal fix.

I think some of the longer term members think they are special. They bait people into arguments and try to get others a holiday. 

[Morch]

30 minutes ago, bignok said:

Topic exclusions is a good idea. Be even better if the OP could exclude people themselves.

 

Yeah...and then the poster excluded just opens a parallel topic and so on. We'll have double the daft topics we already have.

Next thing you'll start crying about people 'copying' your topics or something.

 

 

24 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Dangerous ground  if the OP  can  eliminate  unwelcome  genuine  debate ?

 

Good point.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, bignok said:

I think some of the longer term members think they are special. They bait people into arguments and try to get others a holiday. 

 

Maybe they are just more experienced and better at it than yourself. Don't worry - you'll get there.

[bignok]

Just now, Morch said:

 

Yeah...and then the poster excluded just opens a parallel topic and so on. We'll have double the daft topics we already have.

Next thing you'll start crying about people 'copying' your topics or something.

 

 

 

Good point.

People can do what they want if civil.

[novacova]

10 minutes ago, bignok said:

I agree. All politics. Or Yinn

Yawn fest. Same with climate.

 

Nobody ever changes their mind. So boring.

 

 

There should be a forum section named something like “Intense Argument Free for All” where the threads that descend into incendiary abyss can be moved there, with the ability to to ignore that particular forum completely so none of it will show up anywhere. This way the habitual angsters can vent their aggression on each other, out of sight-out of mind for the individuals that have no interest in it.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Maybe they are just more experienced and better at it than yourself. Don't worry - you'll get there.

Whats the point? 

[CharlieH]

Just now, novacova said:

There should be a forum section named something like “Intense Argument Free for All” where the threads that descend into incendiary abyss can be moved there, with the ability to to ignore that particular forum completely so none of it will show up anywhere. This way the habitual angsters can vent their aggression on each other, out of sight-out of mind for the individuals that have no interest in it.

Its called "the lounge" and why its there.

[bignok]

Just now, novacova said:

There should be a forum section named something like “Intense Argument Free for All” where the threads that descend into incendiary abyss can be moved there, with the ability to to ignore that particular forum completely so none of it will show up anywhere. This way the habitual angsters can vent their aggression on each other, out of sight-out of mind for the individuals that have no interest in it.

I agree. Have a Trump rant topic. A Climate nutters topic. 

[Nick Carter icp]

52 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You know I ignore you yet continually reply to me.

You know my friend is a Rabbi, yet seem to find it funny saying he is a rabbit. PLease don't reply to me or follow me around the forum! It tiresome when posting seeing trolls replying with nonsense. 2 days ago you did this.

If someone did that in my local pub, I'd go to another pub. If they followed me to the next pub, I'd punch them on the nose.

This is why I want a block.

 

   You keep making anti sematic posts , posts that are officially anti sematic which would get you removed from public office if you held such a  position .

   If you keep making anti sematic posts , I will reply to them whether you want me to reply to you or not , saying that you have a Rabbi friends doesn't mean you can freely make anti sematic posts .

   Making anti sematic posts  , trying to stop people from  replying to those posts and thinly veiled threats of violence , let me think what kind of person that sounds like .

    There are many posters on this forum and its common for them to say they are blocking /ignoring other posters and I don't take much notice of that , as they often reply soon after

   BTW, you should have bought some Rabbbitcoin when I suggested it , the price surged, I had a hutch it would 

[VocalNeal]

On 11/10/2023 at 12:07 PM, fondue zoo said:

 

Confused and Sad pile on imminent.

 

I feel empathy for guys who use confused emojis they are not clever enough to understand

 

People use the sad one as an attempt at reverse irony. 

[Morch]

A couple of forums I was member/moderator of, there were two helpful features:

 

Moderators could post a warning (usually on topic expected to get out of hand) that posters had to click and acknowledge before commenting. Not on each and every post, but each time re-logging to website and wishing to post on topic. That cuts the 'i didn't know', 'I didn't see' excuses.

 

Similar but personal - warning pm that basically blocks all further action on website until acknowledged. Poster is not suspended, banned or anything, but can't ignore the warning.

 

Most times, the first measure was good enough to tone things down some, and we were able to set it to appear automatically every X posts, at the start of each page and so on.

 

 

[bignok]

29 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Huh? Is it a forum for discussion or just a news service? Argue I want not. Debate yes.

What do you want to debate? And why?

[Lite Beer]

20 minutes ago, bignok said:

I think some of the longer term members think they are special. They bait people into arguments and try to get others a holiday. 

And your previous account name is ?????

[CharlieH]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

A couple of forums I was member/moderator of, there were two helpful features:

 

Moderators could post a warning (usually on topic expected to get out of hand) that posters had to click and acknowledge before commenting. Not on each and every post, but each time re-logging to website and wishing to post on topic. That cuts the 'i didn't know', 'I didn't see' excuses.

 

Similar but personal - warning pm that basically blocks all further action on website until acknowledged. Poster is not suspended, banned or anything, but can't ignore the warning.

 

Most times, the first measure was good enough to tone things down some, and we were able to set it to appear automatically every X posts, at the start of each page and so on.

 

 

Similar but personal - warning pm that basically blocks all further action on website until acknowledged. Poster is not suspended, banned or anything, but can't ignore the warning.

 

Already have and is used.

[hotandsticky]

Just now, Lite Beer said:

And your previous account is ?????

 

 

"banned"

 

 

I think that he is only tolerated now because the forum thinks it needs the post count.

[ravip]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

No only about 5%. If you think ranting about Trump belongs on this topic you perhaps you should google what trolling is and educate yourself.

 

 

TBH I am Googling 'how to behave in a public forum' right now, still no luck. Any idea where I can find it?

[bignok]

Just now, hotandsticky said:

 

 

"banned"

 

 

I think that he is only tolerated now because the forum thinks it needs the post count.

You keep trying. Try harder.

[hotandsticky]

Just now, ravip said:

TBH I am Googling 'how to behave in a public forum' right now, still no luck. Any idea where I can find it?

 

 

Try Googling "netiquette"

[novacova]

8 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Its called "the lounge" and why its there.

Though not all the threads that descend into trashing get thrown in the “lounge” and there is no way to put the thread on ignore.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

39 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

People posting about Trump, Republicans or even Yinn is very tedious 

Please dont read if Yinn posts offend. 

 

I have posted about Yinn a couple of times. There are only a few posts on Yinn overall so hard to see how it could be a big deal.

 

To me Yinn, whoever the person was, was a perfect example of what made this forum interesting and fun. Debate without getting personal or bickering.  Discussing big topics with humour and a bit of drama but not taking things too seriously.  Taking, for example, the topic of mongering to task. Providing an alternative narrative and having a fairly fierce debate, without personal individual aspersions, or attempting to stop people discussing it in different ways. Turned it away from being an insider's club. The people spoke and made that person Poster of the Year. 

It surprised me when the powers that be didn't make that person's life easier on this site even if the person broke a few rules. Surely added posts to the site. I don't know the back story I suppose.

 

[ravip]

21 minutes ago, bignok said:

I think some of the longer term members think they are special. They bait people into arguments and try to get others a holiday. 

Really? All the members here are adults. Are they so easy to bait?

Some have a sort of 'phobia' participating in a public forum and seems to hallucinate...

[CharlieH]

2 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I don't know the back story I suppose.

 

 

Exactly! and many seem to have very selective memories, oftne if to troll about it.

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, novacova said:

There should be a forum section named something like “Intense Argument Free for All” where the threads that descend into incendiary abyss can be moved there, with the ability to to ignore that particular forum completely so none of it will show up anywhere. This way the habitual angsters can vent their aggression on each other, out of sight-out of mind for the individuals that have no interest in it.

 

   What tends to happen in that situation is that handful of posters turn every thread into a fight between themselves and all threads end up in the doghouse .

   Most threads end up in the doghouse with the same few posters slinging abuse at each other , its usually lefties and right-wingers fighting each other in all the threads and few threads are left unscathed 

[bignok]

3 minutes ago, ravip said:

Really? All the members here are adults. Are they so easy to bait?

Some have a sort of 'phobia' participating in a public forum and seems to hallucinate...

Most are fine. There 5 or 6 bad ones on any forum. That's life. Put 100 people in a room you get that.