John Drake Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom H said: Any school for journalists in Thailand? Plenty. And that's the problem.
charleskerins Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: I'm a journalist and I've worked with the local variety. Not one of them would last a week in the real world. This is the real world. 1
Popular Post sandyf Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, brianthainess said: Wow I learn something everyday birds can fly at 4-5 thousand feet or 1,219 meters as stated in the full story. The majority of birdstrikes are at relatively low altitudes but migrating birds can be up around 7000 ft and potentially more dangerous as a flock. I did almost 6 years on Buccaneeers and being a low level strike a/c birdstrikes were almost a way of life. 1 1 1
Popular Post Jonathan Swift Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, Tom H said: Famous singer survived. What kind of journalism is this? Any school for journalists in Thailand? Pretty sure there is, but the talented and best educated ones likely find jobs elsewhere. High school diploma gets you a job at Thaiger and the other local tabloids. They get what they pay for. I met a Thai lady photojournalist who works for Reuters. Wonderful woman. She was at a forum (FCCT) about holding governments accountable for violence against journalists. She had her eyes lacerated by a broken bottle thrown by police. Here in Bangkok. She recovered. For real journalists you have to go to the Foreign Correspondents Club of Thailand (FCCT). I have another friend who is a director for FCCT and also is deputy director for Human Rights Watch of Southeast Asia. I would listen to anything these two professionals say, and I often do. The club is a great place to go and toss down a few pints among interesting people. The conversations and events there often touch on the dirty little secrets that we all know are bubbling beneath the surface, from Viet Nam to Burma. I'm the piano player there, performing on 8 December. FCCT has a facebook page which is interesting. 3
Popular Post Burma Bill Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, TDCNINJA said: And of course, the plane was a scarebus, I mean, airbus. With respect, this airline flies Boeing 737 900ER and 737-800 aircraft. 1 1 1 5
NanLaew Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: 4 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Half of the passengers were vomiting, while others were fainting. I wonder why? Truly, is knowing this even relevant?
klauskunkel Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 from the article: Quote The captain explained that there were two possible causes. He was unsure whether a bird had flown into the engine as they had flown through a flock of birds on the right side. However, the incident occurred at around 6,000 feet, while the bird had passed at around 4,000 to 5,000 feet two to three days earlier. The bird was large, but there was a delay before the incident happened. Once the engine failure was recognised, it had to be shut down, and there were indeed sparks at that time, reported KhaoSod. Two possible causes, of which the captain explained one: a bird flew into the engine two to three days earlier. Now I'd really like to hear the other explanation, because that's got to be a doozy since Thaiger didn't dare print it. 2
Hamus Yaigh Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 4 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Not sure if the vomiting and fainting were a result of smoke in the cabin or a result of fear. Having just looked up who "famed singer Unnop Thongborisut, better known as Por" is on YouTube and listened to some of his stuff, I think the answer speaks for itself. 2
Popular Post soalbundy Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 Sellers of underwear rushed to Don Muang airport and made a huge profit. 4
Enoon Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: from the article: Two possible causes, of which the captain explained one: a bird flew into the engine two to three days earlier. Now I'd really like to hear the other explanation, because that's got to be a doozy since Thaiger didn't dare print it. "The captain explained that there were two possible causes. He was unsure whether a bird had flown into the engine as they had flown through a flock of birds on the right side. However, the incident occurred at around 6,000 feet, while the bird had passed at around 4,000 to 5,000 feet two to three days earlier. The explanation appears to be that the effects of a bird strike a couple of days before were not adequately investigated and dealt with.......thus the engine subsequently failed catastrophically The juxtaposing of the differing altitudes (at which the strike occurred and which the later catastrophic failure occurred) seems like a feeble and ludicrous attempt to avoid the obvious conclusion that the later failure was a delayed consequence of the earlier (poorly dealt with) bird strike. Truly astonishing/mind boggling attempt at avoiding responsibility being attributed to the pilot, airline and/or maintenance organisation. 1
Red Forever Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ThaiFelix said: Thai News Today: An undisclosed plane belonging to an undisclosed airline company has had an undisclosed incident while departing from an undisclosed airport. The captain, whose name was not revealed refused to disclose any information for fear of defamation suits being aimed at him. "undisclosed airport"? 1
chickenslegs Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Enoon said: "The captain explained that there were two possible causes. He was unsure whether a bird had flown into the engine as they had flown through a flock of birds on the right side. However, the incident occurred at around 6,000 feet, while the bird had passed at around 4,000 to 5,000 feet two to three days earlier. The explanation appears to be that the effects of a bird strike a couple of days before were not adequately investigated and dealt with.......thus the engine subsequently failed catastrophically The juxtaposing of the differing altitudes (at which the strike occurred and which the later catastrophic failure occurred) seems like a feeble and ludicrous attempt to avoid the obvious conclusion that the later failure was a delayed consequence of the earlier (poorly dealt with) bird strike. Truly astonishing/mind boggling attempt at avoiding responsibility being attributed to the pilot, airline and/or maintenance organisation. I think it's possible that there's a typo. The paragraph you quoted makes far more sense if "days" is replaced by "minutes". 1
PETERTHEEATER Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bantex said: The picture at the top of this post showing the blown engine is actually a picture of an Air France Airbus A380 and they have just cropped photo enough as to not show the Air France logo on the inside engine. Your image (above) shows a four engined aircraft whilst, according to the linked report, the subject aircraft had a problem with THE engine meaning it had only one. Further on, it states it was the Right engine meaning the plane was twin engined. 😀
Gandtee Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Digitalbanana said: I think the main point of the news is that famed singer Unnop Thongborisut, better known as Por is safe. Who?? 1 1
Popular Post Formaleins Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 Yet another click bait crock! The lead photo shows a blown up engine with the nacelle blown off and yet it turns out that there were some sparks seen coming out of the engine! The standard of accurate news reporting just keeps sliding further down the sewer every single day! 1 2 1
McTavish Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Formaleins said: Yet another click bait crock! The lead photo shows a blown up engine with the nacelle blown off and yet it turns out that there were some sparks seen coming out of the engine! The standard of accurate news reporting just keeps sliding further down the sewer every single day! Sadly, most Thaiger stories are run thru ChatGPT then have dumb clickbait titles added. Another cause, possibly the one which was omitted, is compressor stall, causes a load bang/backfire and flame before engine shutdown.
NedR69 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 In all my life of reading news and mishap reports, I’ve never read one such as this. It’s always, always always reported or information provided in the news article or repot the airlines name and both the origination and destination. Go do some journalism in some place that no one knows or expects something informative….maybe the local high school has an opening. 1
Umlungu Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: Apparently not. Any schools in Thailand?
Dazinoz Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Surely, the mane thing is that we should paws for a while before naming the airline. Not true, I think your lion about that.
Grumpy one Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: Finally arrived at Chiang Rai with a little delay of 3 hours 29 minutes (after changing plane) And underwear 2
cracker1 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 4 hours ago, JoePai said: No mention of the airline ? The uniform looks like Thai Lion Air I think ?
Popular Post bignok Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 So if it crashed with no singers all ok 1 1 1
itsallmine68 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, JoePai said: No mention of the airline ? Looks like Batik Air Batik Air Malaysia (formerly known as Malindo Air) is a Malaysian full service carrier,[3][4] an associate carrier of the Indonesian Lion Air Group, with headquarters in Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.[5][6][7][8] The original name, Malindo, signifies a cooperative pact between Malaysia and Indonesia. History 1
bamnutsak Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, itsallmine68 said: Looks like Batik Air I think most are implying that it is Thai Lion Air (SL), DMK-CEI. I've looked for additional detail on this (Thai aviation sites/FB groups), but couldn't find anything, so far. Maybe SL538, DMK-CEI yesterday, Friday, 24 Nov? B738/HS-LGJ. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-lgj https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-lgj#32f2866e
Popular Post Phil1964 Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: No report of smoke in the cabin, so probably a case of mass hysteria. I assume that the majority of passengers were Thai (certainly more than the half reported to have been reacting negatively to the situation), and Thais do have a history of that at schools or other group gatherings. Surprised they did'nt get all frustrated and vented their anger en masse and blamed the pilot before giving him the customary 20 v 1 Thai beating! 🤔 3
riclag Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Tom H said: Famous singer survived. What kind of journalism is this? Any school for journalists in Thailand? you might have something there! In my world, anytime a journalist reports events without voicing activism , is newsworthy!
wensiensheng Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, klauskunkel said: from the article: Two possible causes, of which the captain explained one: a bird flew into the engine two to three days earlier. Now I'd really like to hear the other explanation, because that's got to be a doozy since Thaiger didn't dare print it. No maintenance done within the 2/3 days since the bird incident?
ThailandGuy Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Looks like Thai Lion Air. The same symbol on the engine. The same clothes for the personel. https://www.lionairthai.com/en/press_release/2021/10/07/Thai-Lion-Air-welcome-two-new-A330neo-aircraft--Prepare-to-fly-for-international-routes The good thing is that the pilot did a good job bringing them back on the ground. I can imagine it was scarry. But the end is what counts. They all survived.
Thailand Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, sandyf said: The majority of birdstrikes are at relatively low altitudes but migrating birds can be up around 7000 ft and potentially more dangerous as a flock. I did almost 6 years on Buccaneeers and being a low level strike a/c birdstrikes were almost a way of life. Lossiemouth?
itsallmine68 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, bamnutsak said: I think most are implying that it is Thai Lion Air (SL), DMK-CEI. I've looked for additional detail on this (Thai aviation sites/FB groups), but couldn't find anything, so far. Maybe SL538, DMK-CEI yesterday, Friday, 24 Nov? B738/HS-LGJ. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-lgj https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-lgj#32f2866e Look at the girls uniform an do a search as I did 1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:
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