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German accused faces criminal charges at home over under-age liaison with a 17-year-old Pattaya bar girl

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If you look at Thailand’s sex laws, many of them were not created purely from inside the country, but strongly influenced by outside pressure. The US Embassy, US FBI, US TIP Report, the UK, Interpol (from France), ECPAT (from Sweden), the UNODC (from Austria), and dozens of Western NGOs have pushed Thailand to adopt stricter and stricter frameworks. Over the last decades, especially from the law in 1996, this has shaped the entire legal system around prostitution, age, and consent. So if a 17-year-old bar girl voluntarily goes to the hotel of an adult German man, with no pressure at all, no STDs, no rape or human trafficking, then it is still statutory rape and child abuse now.

 

The result is that Thailand's modern sex laws are not only a reflection of Thai society, but also of international politics and the constant requirement to remain in US Tier 1 (best level) status according to the US report on human trafficking, even though the German eventually committed suicide after this. By 2018, Thailand was upgraded from Tier 3 (worst level) to Tier 2. Since then, the stated goal has been clear: reach Tier 1 — not by honest reflection of local context, but by conforming to international optics, more money from US, secure economic aid, trade deals, and diplomatic favor. But it wasn’t Thai law — it was U.S. pressure, behind the scenes.

 

Even with sex work above the legal age (20+), there are contradictions. A completely voluntary act between two adults can still be classified as "exploitation" or "rape" under certain international definitions. It shows how far political agenda and foreign influence can stretch into domestic law.

 

See the videos here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTrueCobraBarCaseStory

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    legal or not. Any older person that wants to stick his w!llie in a minor should be locked up. Also men here that think they can have a normal relation with a girl thats 35 years younger..........

  • Is sex with a 17yo illegal in Germany? I think not!   Can you even extradite someone for this?

  • so let me get this straight. you want to lock someone up because of your own moral code ? regardless if they broke the law or not.    my goodness.   and to clarify i find it troubl

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On 12/12/2023 at 12:17 AM, webfact said:

Jens Kirch could face possible charges in Germany for underage sex with a minor in Pattaya.

 

He seems to like his girls young.

2 hours ago, Nadjos said:

If you look at Thailand’s sex laws, many of them were not created purely from inside the country, but strongly influenced by outside pressure. The US Embassy, US FBI, US TIP Report, the UK, Interpol (from France), ECPAT (from Sweden), the UNODC (from Austria), and dozens of Western NGOs have pushed Thailand to adopt stricter and stricter frameworks. Over the last decades, especially from the law in 1996, this has shaped the entire legal system around prostitution, age, and consent. So if a 17-year-old bar girl voluntarily goes to the hotel of an adult German man, with no pressure at all, no STDs, no rape or human trafficking, then it is still statutory rape and child abuse now.

 

The result is that Thailand's modern sex laws are not only a reflection of Thai society, but also of international politics and the constant requirement to remain in US Tier 1 (best level) status according to the US report on human trafficking, even though the German eventually committed suicide after this. By 2018, Thailand was upgraded from Tier 3 (worst level) to Tier 2. Since then, the stated goal has been clear: reach Tier 1 — not by honest reflection of local context, but by conforming to international optics, more money from US, secure economic aid, trade deals, and diplomatic favor. But it wasn’t Thai law — it was U.S. pressure, behind the scenes.

 

Even with sex work above the legal age (20+), there are contradictions. A completely voluntary act between two adults can still be classified as "exploitation" or "rape" under certain international definitions. It shows how far political agenda and foreign influence can stretch into domestic law.

 

See the videos here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTrueCobraBarCaseStory

The legal age for "sex work" in Thailand is 18 not 20, I think.

18 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The legal age for "sex work" in Thailand is 18 not 20, I think.

sex work as in prostitution ?

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The legal age for "sex work" in Thailand is 18 not 20, I think.

Not sure about that, I thought it more for GGB for example. 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The legal age for "sex work" in Thailand is 18 not 20, I think.

Double post.

At police stations, you can now see signs that say ปลอดเด็ก ("No children under 20 years old") and ปลอดค้ามนุษย์ ("No human trafficking"). In Pattaya’s Soi 6, signs on all bars say 20+ ห้ามเข้า ("20+ - Under 20 years old are prohibited from entering."). So there is no entry for those under 20, regardless of the type of entertainment venue. It was pressure from 18 to 20 years in 2018 from the US, not real Thai.

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