Former Speaker Ryan: ‘Trump’s not a conservative, he’s an authoritarian narcissist’

[CharlieH]

 

Former Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who headed the Republican House majority during former President Trump’s first two years in office, says that Trump is not conservative but instead an authoritarian narcissist whose guiding principle is to aggrandize himself.  

Ryan defended former Republican Reps. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) for standing up to Trump and said many Republican lawmakers probably now regret not voting for impeachment charges and missing their chance to remove him from the political stage.  

 

“Trump’s not a conservative, he’s an authoritarian narcissist. So I think they basically called him out for that,” Ryan told Teneo Political Risk Advisory Co-President Kevin Kajiwara during a video conference interview when asked about Cheney and Kinzinger.  

Ryan said Trump is “a populist authoritarian narcissist.” 

“Historically speaking, all of his tendencies are basically where narcissism takes him, which is whatever makes him popular, makes him feel good in any given moment,” he added. “He doesn’t think in classical liberal conservative terms. He thinks in an authoritarian way and he’s been able to get a big chunk of the Republican base to follow him because he’s the culture warrior.” 

Ryan said Cheney and Kinzinger “stepped out of the flow” of many other Republicans falling into lockstep with Trump “and called it out.” 

He said they “paid for it with [their] careers” but made the right move.  

“There has to be some line, some principle that is so important to you that you’re not going to cross so that when you’re brushing in the morning and look at yourself in the mirror, you like what you see. I think Adam and Liz are brushing their teeth, liking what they see,” he said.

 

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[Tug]

Here here well said speaker Ryan 

[KhunLA]

Ryan & Kinzinger, career politicians (20 & 12 yrs respectfully) and simply part of the problem.  

 

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside.  

 

The old guard has to go, stop reelecting incumbents, if you want change, as they've failed the people for decades, while enriching themselves.

[illisdean]

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

Trump is not conservative but instead an authoritarian narcissist

And currently destroying Biden in every possible way in the polling now.

 

 

[Tug]

22 minutes ago, illisdean said:

And currently destroying Biden in every possible way in the polling now.

 

 

Naaa and keep in mind the lady folk are not going to vote for the guy that set them back 50 years nor will most of the men the  clown car congress the betrayal of Ukraine that stuff ain’t sitting well with the majority of us.now to biden’s credit outstanding stock market outstanding employment inflation coming down interest rates soon to follow meaningful legislation infrastructure chips drug prices ect ect.or hot air trump 91 felony’s the documents case …….naaa not buying it 

[illisdean]

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

hot air trump 91 felony’s the documents case

Bogus, all of them and if you can see it then you are far too disengaged logically and rationally. 

Edited December 14, 2023 by illisdean

[ThaiFelix]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Ryan & Kinzinger, career politicians (20 & 12 yrs respectfully) and simply part of the problem.  

 

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside.  

 

The old guard has to go, stop reelecting incumbents, if you want change, as they've failed the people for decades, while enriching themselves.

The people of the US have failed themselves.  How can almost 50% want this incompetent egotistical pathological liar in office, I mean its not like anybody doesnt know.

[ThaiFelix]

1 minute ago, ThaiFelix said:

Cheney ... what a joke.

Not to himself.  He is very proud of the millions he has robbed from taxpayers.

[Jingthing]

Historically it's a thing that happens that people democratically decide to elect dictators.

That's what's happening now and it will happen unless the trump train wreck can somehow be stopped.

But democracy once lost is incredibly difficult to ever restore.

They still have elections in Russia but they aren't real.

If that's what Americans want, by heck, that's what they're gonna get.

[charleskerins]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Ryan & Kinzinger, career politicians (20 & 12 yrs respectfully) and simply part of the problem.  

 

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside.  

 

The old guard has to go, stop reelecting incumbents, if you want change, as they've failed the people for decades, while enriching themselves.

"A bit telling when your own party casts you aside"  Pray tell    what does it tell us ? That the Republican party has gone full A)follow the Fascist  mode.

B) People that respect and abide by the US Constitution are no longer welcome in the GOP

C) That only moral cowards and  sycophants  are allowed in the GOP

D) That the party of sedition and treason  "casts aside" patriots.

E) all of the above   

E   is what it tells us.

[charleskerins]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

Bogus, all of them and if you can see it then you are far too disengaged logically and rationally. 

They are so bogus his codefendants have already pled guilty  -you are the disengaged one .  Try opening your eyes 

 I can see it .    91 counts that you have vetted thoroughly and you are privy to the Grand Jury testimony?  so you know they are bogus?    " then you are far too disengaged logically and rationally."

 

"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"      It's useless to argue or attempt reason with blinded cultists worshipping at the feet of a babbling wannabe dictator.

[charleskerins]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Historically it's a thing that happens that people democratically decide to elect dictators.

That's what's happening now and it will happen unless the trump train wreck can somehow be stopped.

But democracy once lost is incredibly difficult to ever restore.

They still have elections in Russia but they aren't real.

If that's what Americans want, by heck, that's what they're gonna get.

Most Americans  don't  but many do    they are idiots.

[charleskerins]

Just now, charleskerins said:

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

And currently destroying Biden in every possible way in the polling now.

 

 

Most Americans  don't  but many do    they are idiots.

Yes in unlikely voters that own landlines -he hasn't won an election in two tries.    

[charleskerins]

25 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Not to himself.  He is very proud of the millions he has robbed from taxpayers.

You are the joke Cheney is a woman  ,a former Rep from Wyoming.  

[SiSePuede419]

The cult members start telling the truth once they leave the cult.

 

In order to be in this cult you have to lie continuously and pretend that fat putrid <deleted>face cult leader isn't lying. 😄

[rudi49jr]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Ryan & Kinzinger, career politicians (20 & 12 yrs respectfully) and simply part of the problem.  

 

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside.  

 

The old guard has to go, stop reelecting incumbents, if you want change, as they've failed the people for decades, while enriching themselves.

stop reelecting incumbents

 

That’s not the peoblem. People (especially Republicans) should stop electing completely incompetent dumb@sses who know less than nothing about politics and don’t have the slightest interest in doing anything for their constituents. People like MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Paul Gosar, Louis Gomert, Tommy Tuberville, Jim Jordan, the list just goes on and on. They are all dumber than a bag of rocks, conspiracy thinkers, QAnon believers, MAGA cult members, and yet people keep electing them. That is the real problem.

[newbee2022]

And where are the news now?

That's common sense. I can characterise him in  many other words as well🧑‍🎄

[spidermike007]

Tell it like it is. And never forget, despite all the boasting to the contrary, 17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. Are these failures and traits the result of being a narcissist? You bet they are.

 

Then he failed miserably as president, and was likely the 43rd worst ever. God forbid he get's re-elected. All bets are off, at that point. I only wish he had a better opponent.

Edited December 14, 2023 by spidermike007

[Gandtee]

11 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

"A bit telling when your own party casts you aside"  Pray tell    what does it tell us ? That the Republican party has gone full A)follow the Fascist  mode.

B) People that respect and abide by the US Constitution are no longer welcome in the GOP

C) That only moral cowards and  sycophants  are allowed in the GOP

D) That the party of sedition and treason  "casts aside" patriots.

E) all of the above   

E   is what it tells us.

As an outside observer. What was the United States of America is now deemed The DisUnited States of America by other countries. Trying to extract itself from a narcissistic sycophantic ex President accused of corruption. But it seems most Americans are jollied along and love the raxxa matazz by flamboyance. The will follow him. It must be the fake tan and bouffant hair style. So very sad.

[Gandtee]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Tell it like it is. And never forget, despite all the boasting to the contrary, 17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

Then he failed miserably as president, and was likely the 43rd worst ever. God forbid he get's re-elected. All bets are off, at that point. I only wish he had a better opponent.

Only a narcissist would insist on a his name on everything. Maybe on his toilet paper?

[Gandtee]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Tell it like it is. And never forget, despite all the boasting to the contrary, 17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others. And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

Then he failed miserably as president, and was likely the 43rd worst ever. God forbid he get's re-elected. All bets are off, at that point. I only wish he had a better opponent.

Or younger.

[klauskunkel]

5 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Ryan said Trump is “a populist authoritarian narcissist.” 

Agreed. Although the problem is that Trump's voter base doesn't understand most multi-syllabic words all that well.

[wombat]

'authoritarian narcissist’
Er...name a politician that isn't ?

[wombat]

15 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

As an outside observer. What was the United States of America is now deemed The DisUnited States of America by other countries. Trying to extract itself from a narcissistic sycophantic ex President accused of corruption. But it seems most Americans are jollied along and love the raxxa matazz by flamboyance. The will follow him. It must be the fake tan and bouffant hair style. So very sad.

I'd say 'All the way with RFK' as a independent  except how do I know he isnt a trojan horse democrat?

[charleskerins]

55 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

The cult members start telling the truth once they leave the cult.

 

In order to be in this cult you have to lie continuously and pretend that fat putrid <deleted>face cult leader isn't lying. 😄

That part must be really hard on them   moral cowards though they be.

[charleskerins]

25 minutes ago, wombat said:

I'd say 'All the way with RFK' as a independent  except how do I know he isnt a trojan horse democrat?

Seems that the word "most" has taken on a new meaning .Most Americans have NEVER supported him .    RFK is a disgrace to the Kennedy name regarding their contribution to American politics and America.

[charleskerins]

31 minutes ago, wombat said:

'authoritarian narcissist’
Er...name a politician that isn't ?

Is this an attempt at humor ?  Er ... how many names do you want ?   Biden ,Romney, Obama ,  Clinton, Eisenhower ,JFK,LBJ ,George Bush , Jeb Bush, Adam Kinzinger.  there's 10   I can name another 100 American politicians that aren't seditious wannabe dictators. then I can name another 100  .How about  I just name two that are   donnie  and De Santis.

[charleskerins]

44 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

Or younger.

You would think if 43 % of the population would support a dictator it wouldn't  be a stupid babbling liar that created ZERO jobs during his Presidency. 

[rudi49jr]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Ryan & Kinzinger, career politicians (20 & 12 yrs respectfully) and simply part of the problem.  

 

Cheney ... what a joke.

 

A bit telling when your own party casts you aside.  

 

The old guard has to go, stop reelecting incumbents, if you want change, as they've failed the people for decades, while enriching themselves.

Liz Cheney was the rising star in the Republican party, at some point I think she was third in line. But the minute Cheney (and Kinzinger) turned against Trump, all the Trump @ss-kissers couldn’t wait to shun them and kick them to the curb. Absolutely disgraceful.
Don’t get me wrong, I have no love for either Cheney or Kinzinger, but at least they showed to have a conscience and a spine. Which are two very important things many Republicans seem to be lacking these days.

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

Bogus, all of them and if you can see it then you are far too disengaged logically and rationally. 

Perhaps you are unaware of US law.

 

---Attempting to overthrow democracy is at least Insurrection, and more likely the capital crime of Sedition: Fry trump on Sparky

---Attempting to force an official to alter the vote violates State RICO statutes in Georgia..."just find me...11,780 votes"

---Theft of highly classified documents, carrying headings like TS, SCI, Codeword, HCS and RD is bad enough; lying about returning them all adds yet more felony charges

 

The bloated orange traitor, convicted sex offender, convicted charity fraudster, convicted bank and insurance fraudster::

 

1) Called his goobers to DC for 6 January for no other reason than to try to overturn the election where trump soundly had his fat butt beaten silly

2) Held his clownish Mall rally and told his goobers to 'march to the Capitol" not to buy souvenirs, but to disrupt the peaceful, pro forma certification process; idiots that they are, they are paying the price for trump's pitiful personal insecurity of being a LOSER

3) Got intimately involved with the Fake Elector scheme trying to overturn the election results

4) Called GA SecState for no reason other than to force Raffenperger to engage in voter fraud

5) Stole classified docs, lied about 'declassifying with his mind', lied about returning them, and most likely intended to monetize them, as they would yield more than silly NFT cards containing pieces of the suit he wore when arrested and booked in Georgia

 

To think anything other than this is to live in a world more fantastical than Alice in Wonderland, or perhaps the result of having injected oneself with Lysol to stave off Covid.