Thailand moves to ban recreational cannabis use, 18 months after historic decriminalization

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It would be interesting to see their books, and whether their booze sales and profits suffered more (or less) than their weed sales grew.

 

for them does it matter though ? isn't it like a 3 card monte in the end ? 

[scottiejohn]

17 minutes ago, 2baht said:

They'd also take some F35 Raptors if anyone was stupid enough to sell it to them!

You must be taking the stuff if you think an F35 is a Raptor!

F35 is a Lightning II and an F22 is a Raptor!

[impulse]

8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

... Followed the money - he makes up for it by buying a boatload of pizzas.

 

Excellent point.  But I don't think the pizza flippers have the same political clout as the beer brewers.

 

[2baht]

3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

You must be taking the stuff if you think an F35 is a Raptor!

F35 is a Lightning II and an F22 is a Raptor!

OMG! Thanks....how am I going to live with myself after that???

[robblok]

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I am concerned he will set the bed on fire.

Impossible when you vape, no open fire. No real combustion as it just heat the stuff. So no total burn. Still not healthy but better then smoking it for real. Plus why would one set the bed on fire when you vape at a desk and then go to bed. 

 

Canabis never caused as much trouble as alcohol. 

[dinsdale]

Dope was smoked before decriminalisation and will continue to be smoked. The shops of course are another thing. 10 yabba pills decriminalised 1 joint is a crime. Go figure. Sadly the people in charge have very little if any grey matter between the ears. It's all political and meant to appease the small but powerful conservative groups.

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, robblok said:

Impossible when you vape, no open fire. No real combustion as it just heat the stuff. So no total burn. Still not healthy but better then smoking it for real. Plus why would one set the bed on fire when you vape at a desk and then go to bed. 

 

Canabis never caused as much trouble as alcohol. 

So, is the thc oil for vaping easy to find? Asking for a friend.

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, robblok said:

Too bad havent slept so good since smoking cannabis. Improved my sleep a lot. Its stupid they ban this. Dinosaurs. 

 

Nothing wrong with cannabis just apply the same rules as alcohol and dont sell it to minors and near schools.

 

But too bad its done can't stop it. I hope i can still get a supply as i dont go out much i would risk it. Or try to get a medical card or something. Wonder what compromises will be made.

 

Needing the devils lettuce for the reason of insomnia would surely fall under medicinal usage.

[WHansen]

Best case-non of the new proposals/laws get enforced.

Worst case-smokers have to go back to the outdoor grown compressed weed.

Weed shop owners and investers must have known it was all a gamble in this country that loves u turns.

[Peabody]

46 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, is the thc oil for vaping easy to find? Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend you don't need oil to vape.

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, Peabody said:

Tell your friend you don't need oil to vape.

Could you elaborate a bit on how this works, my friend is curious.

[Robert Paulson]

Wild guess, whatever they do, it’ll be something a group of people will be able to make a lot more money on 

[bobbin]

1 hour ago, LS24 said:

I live in Non and would struggle to see a farang each day. Plenty of weeks shops near me. I also mentioned one in a previous post in this thread regarding the weedshop, cafe and bar.

Now you agree that most of the weed shops are in tourist areas. great. So do you agree or disagree that some tourists would be turned off by the blatant advertisement of weed? Now you may mention lady bars, yes. But tourists have been aware of this for years and still come with families. Will those same families still come when weed is so readily visible and accessible.

if you are going to continue to ignore the pertinent points and counter them logically, you don't need to reply. of course you can, but you don't need to.

These tourists you speak of.. they wouldn't be Canadians. Fully legal there since 2018. Americans? 37 States (out of 51) legal recreational use. Germany fully legal within weeks. Per German government. Dutch people? 555.. Europeans will follow Germany.

 

So I guess that you are talking about Asian tourists.. that area of the World known for upholding human rights. Except for the Chinese, those countries followed the American prohibitionist model..which is demonstrably going away.

 

And while you are busy wishing to interfere in one of the pleasures in my life you kick back with an alcoholic (personality altering) beverage...

[BritManToo]

Nothing will change, Anutin has the final vote.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, stoner said:

BP updated on this yesterday. the headline in the BP says....draft bill on cannabis not finished says cholnan. what was forwarded was the health ministries views on the subject. 

 

then he goes on to state it is his firm belief that cannabis should be used strictly as medical. HIS VIEWS is the key phrase here. 

 

a khao san road business rep went on to say that it possibly generates 20 to 30 mb alone for khao san road per month. multiply that throughout the countries tourist areas and you have a large sum of money.

 

VERY large. 

 

 

 

    I did walk though my own towns little tourist enclave last night and there are numerous marijuana shops . 

   There were about 6 felangs just sitting there are staring at people walking by  .

I wondered what was going on, why were 6 people just staring at me , then I realised they were all stoned and out of it , well weird 

[stoner]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    I did walk though my own towns little tourist enclave last night and there are numerous marijuana shops . 

   There were about 6 felangs just sitting there are staring at people walking by  .

I wondered what was going on, why were 6 people just staring at me , then I realised they were all stoned and out of it , well weird 

 

couple weeks ago i walked down soi bukhao and saw dozens of foreigners just sitting there staring at me. then i realized they were all drunk and out of it. well weird. 

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

couple weeks ago i walked down soi bukhao and saw dozens of foreigners just sitting there staring at me. then i realized they were all drunk and out of it. well weird. 

 

  The drinkers in the bars  in the area where I went yesterday were all drinking with each and playing pool and talking with each other, as they usually do , the guys with spliffs were just sitting around staring and people walking by 

Edited January 11 by Nick Carter icp

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The drinkers in the bqrs  in the area where I went yesterday were all drinking with each and playing pool and talking with each other, as they usually do , the guys with spliffs were just sitting around staring and people walking by 

 

this one time at band camp....

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

this one time at band camp....

 

  No, it was always like that .

I used to go there frequently and that was before the weed shops opened , since the weed shops openned, that is when the sitting  around starers began to appear

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  No, it was always like that .

I used to go there frequently and that was before the weed shops opened , since the weed shops openned, that is when the sitting  around starers began to appear

 

loser smokers loser shops maybe ? the shops i deal with are generally packed. have lots of entertainment going on. gaming. tv. pool. smoke lounges with tunes. 

 

you have to admit there are plenty of bars that fit the same mold you describe right ? just like i admit there are cannabis shops with guys sitting outside staring off into nothing. 

 

i am not one of those you describe. how does that work then ? 

[sungod]

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The drinkers in the bars  in the area where I went yesterday were all drinking with each and playing pool and talking with each other, as they usually do , the guys with spliffs were just sitting around staring and people walking by 

 

I've played some of my best pool after a puff......

[patman30]

4 hours ago, Crossy said:

I'm afraid that genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.

 

No U turns possible.

Agreed, it will be hard now and they should rightfully see a lot of pushback
i expect what this is for is to bring in "medical cards" like they have in the US
first you go to the doctor next door and pay 500 baht for a card then you can buy
later they can then easily implement limits for card holders etc.
i could see them taking it a step further here, like the card is only valid for certain outlets or areas depending where you got the card

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, patman30 said:

i expect what this is for is to bring in "medical cards" like they have in the US
first you go to the doctor next door and pay 500 baht for a card then you can buy
later

 

 

I've seen no indication that the U.S. State model of medical cards is being considered here. I've never seen it mentioned by any Thai officials.

 

I think everyone understands that any medical card solution, unless following medical testing, and diagnosis, would simply be a tacit approval for recreational use. Could it be implemented to rebuff opposition? Sure.

 

And foreigners would be excluded from such a program, unless part of the social security programs.

 

 

I've scanned the draft bill via Google Translate and saw nothing in it prohibiting the possession or personal use of cannabis flower (over 0.2 %). There are limitations on the sale of cannabis flower. I could have missed something, it's quite a convoluted mess, more like an advanced degree thesis written by ThaiChatGPT. And is very similar to the draft bill first read last year.

 

 

Section 42: No person is allowed to sell marijuana, hemp, or extracts for consumption. Whether it's for the benefit in trade or given with compensation or other benefits or not By means or in a certain manner in any of the following ways: (1) Sell marijuana, hemp, or extracts for recreational purposes.

 

The punishment for this violation is a 60,000 baht fine (up to), but no jail time. Other violations related to production and distribution include fines and jail time. 

 

[spidermike007]

At this stage of the game only total nitwits would choose to recriminalize ganja possession and make the purchase of it more difficult, driving thousands of businesses into bankruptcy for what? To support the war on ganga? 

 

Such silliness. Who are these goons? 

[NorthernRyland]

yeah but this is Thailand so they'll just pretend the law doesn't exist and that will be the end of it.

[Bangkok Barry]

5 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Sad old dinosaurs can baulk all they want; weed made legal was a boon for Thailand, a real move forward. This illegal gov reneging on that puts it firmly back into old tyrant dinosaur territory. 

 

Sale for recreational use id illegal almost everywhere in the world. in the world. Accordsing ro Google, Commercial sale of recreational cannabis is legalized nationwide in three countries (Canada, Thailand, and Uruguay) and in all subnational U.S. jurisdictions that have legalized possession except Virginia and Washington, D.C. A policy of limited enforcement has also been adopted in many countries.

 

There are a lot of ifs and buts though that appear to expand that number.

[youngster30uk]

4 hours ago, LS24 said:

We, no. You have twice now quoted increase in turnover based on KSR. Yet you have not taken into account people who have chosen to not visit areas due to the free availability of weed. You have demonstrated confirmation bias. I am simply asking you to consider both the positive and negative effects to draw a more unbiased conclusion. That is just basis economics.

 

Are you after an unbiased discussion or a biased one?

I cant imagine that many people have said to themselves ' I M not going there because due to the free availability of weed'

[Thumbs]

Anutin is leader of the coalition party which made it legal, all those individuals and businesses encouraged into investment should sue the government 

[twestheimer]

At the same time they are reducing taxes on alcohol, recreational alcohol, they are banning recreational cannabis?

Which is more dangerous?

 

[malibukid]

tea money shake down, new tourist tax

Edited January 11 by malibukid