Popular Post Tug Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 40 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: You should take up comedy as a career. You'd be a huge hit. Obviously you aren’t paying attention 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: Please provide links for all those claims. I am sure you are aware of forum rules which are always enforced impartially irrespective of political position, much like the laws in Thailand. You obviously have access to that thing called the internet. You can search, and maybe learn something. trump and his kids were banned for life from running a charity, because he was convicted of using donations for personal purposes, which is defraudung donors. Since his children were accessories, they, too, are banned. The two cases ongoing in NYC are finished, save for determining damages. In the bank and insurance fraud case, trump was allowed to choose either a jury trial or a bench trial. He chose bench trial, which means only the judge hears the case and arrives at a verdict. Judge Engoron found trump guilty of both bank and insurance fraud. In the defamation case---a civil case---trump was first found guilty of sexual assault. He subsequently defamed E Jean Carroll, according to the jury, and they awarded her $5 million. He continued to defame her, so Carroll filed new defamation charges and is now awaiting the jury to declare guilt and award damages. Thus, trump is a convicted charity fraudster, a convicted bank fraudster, a convicted insurance fraudster, and a convicted sexual offender. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 48 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: You should take up comedy as a career. You'd be a huge hit. I'm already as wealthy as anyone needs to be, so I neither need the career nor the fame. As for comedy, House Repubs are providing that, refusing to pass any Bill that would allow Border Patrol to hire more agents. They slashed the funding once they retook the House, and then moaned about border crossings. They need a mirror to see who is responsible. Obviously they want to keep the issue front and center, believing it will help their cult leader. Want to know just how comical those House Repubs are? More than 140 refused to certify Biden's landslide victory over trump...yet they were perfectly happy to certify their own election victory on the exact same ballots. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: You should take up comedy as a career. You'd be a huge hit. What's funny? As an American, it's sad that this is the state of American politics these days. Politics being the 'art of compromise' was not doing well before Trump came on the scene and, thanks to Trump, it's now on life support. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 10 hours ago, newnative said: They're not 'claims', they're facts. Easily googled. Just google 'Trump convicted for charity fraud', for example, and up it pops. Just google 'Trump convicted for sexual assault', and up it pops. See how easy that is? It is not up to me to search for links to backup your claims. Please refer to the forum rules. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 16 hours ago, Walker88 said: trump released 5000 Taliban jihadis plus set the timetable for US withdrawal before leaving office. Those released jihadis overthrew what was left of the Afghanistan government and now run the country. It is quite likely7 some of them ordered and carried out the airport bombing during the withdrawal. I also recall what was close to a total pull back from Syria, apparently at Putin's behest. And yes, if DT were president at the time there would be no Russia-Ukraine war, he would have stayed half a would away and Putin would have taken it. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: It is not up to me to search for links to backup your claims. Please refer to the forum rules. Again, not 'claims' at all. They are facts. Facts that are general knowledge. Facts that are general knowledge don't need to be backed up with a link. If I mention in a post that the earth is round, first, it is not a 'claim' and, second, it is general knowledge that does not need a link. Same with these facts. For the record, I did not post the facts regarding Trump. That was another poster. However, when you referred to the facts as 'claims' I felt I needed to respond to set you straight that they are not 'claims' at all, but facts. A big difference. I 'claim' I have a 30-inch waist but . . . Again, for the record, the poster who listed Trump's convictions was being scrupulously fair to Trump when he listed his conviction for sexual assault. The judge in the case said Trump was actually guilty of what is generally considered to be the legal definition of rape, even though the jury opted for 'sexual assault'. You can google it. 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, placeholder said: Lack of links doesn't prove someone is making things up. But when they're challenged and can't be backed up, that's pretty good proof. Unfortunately for you, here are links to the evidence. On February 29, 2020, the United States and the Taliban signed a peace agreement. It provided for a full withdrawal of U.S. troops over 14 months on the condition that the Taliban would take part in peace negotiations with the Afghan government and prevent affiliates of al-Qaeda and ISIL from operating within Afghanistan. The agreement did not include a condition that the Taliban reach an agreement with the Afghan government. https://www.britannica.com/event/withdrawal-of-United-States-troops-from-Afghanistan Here's when the withdrawal of troops took place: Withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan, the United States government’s removal of its last remaining armed forces in Afghanistan following the Afghanistan War (2001–14). The withdrawal was completed on August 30, 2021, despite the Taliban’s toppling of the Afghan government earlier that month. https://www.britannica.com/event/Afghanistan-War Do you really require a link showing that Donald Trump's term of office ended on Jan 20th, 2021? Trump ordered rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan after election loss President Donald Trump ordered a rapid withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Somalia in the wake of his 2020 election loss, but senior officials never followed through on the plan, according to testimony released by the congressional January 6 committee on Thursday. “The order was for an immediate withdrawal, and it would have been catastrophic,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of two Republican members of the special panel. “And yet President Trump signed the order.” https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/ As for the net negative of illegal immigration in 2021 claimed by impulse. I can't actually find evidence that this was the case. . I just hope my providing links to credible sources will prove an inspiration to you and put a stop to your penchant for making things up. No news here really, except this claim about this mystery memo in November 2020, with Trump suddenly ordering this "rapid" withdrawal - something I've never heard of before - if you've a link to the document itself, that would be great. Whatever the truth of 2020, Biden had time in 2021 to alter plans to avoid this disaster of a final withdrawal. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, Walker88 said: trump released 5000 Taliban jihadis plus set the timetable for US withdrawal before leaving office. Those released jihadis overthrew what was left of the Afghanistan government and now run the country. It is quite likely7 some of them ordered and carried out the airport bombing during the withdrawal. Quite likely? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 12 hours ago, newnative said: They're not 'claims', they're facts. Easily googled. Just google 'Trump convicted for charity fraud', for example, and up it pops. Just google 'Trump convicted for sexual assault', and up it pops. See how easy that is? facts....easily googled...555. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 10 hours ago, Walker88 said: More good news for Biden, and bad news for trump. Economists expected an annualized 2% GDP figure to be released 25 January, but it smashed the estimate and came in at 3.3% growth. The US is booming under Biden. That has to make the guy who wants the economy to crash feel terrible. You forgot the jobless claims going up and thousands of layoffs already. Never mind - the US is booming under Biden - BOOM! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, nauseus said: facts....easily googled...555. Yes, makes it so much harder to fall back on the ridiculously lame 'claim' excuse when confronted with actual facts. ('Well, that's just a claim'. Umm, no it's not, Grasshopper.) The facts are often so easy to locate with Google. Google 'Trump convicted of sexual assault' and there are all the facts right there, in only the time it took to type the query. I sense a lot of grinding teeth. Grrrrrrr! Cursed Google with cursed facts. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, nauseus said: You forgot the jobless claims going up and thousands of layoffs already. Never mind - the US is booming under Biden - BOOM! You forgot to include evidence with a link to prove your point. Here's what evidence with a link looks like: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSLDL#0 The problem is, the evidence show that layoffs and discharges are actually actually a bit lower during the Biden Administration than they were during the Trump administration. Edited January 26 by placeholder 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, newnative said: Yes, makes it so much harder to fall back on the ridiculously lame 'claim' excuse when confronted with actual facts. ('Well, that's just a claim'. Umm, no it's not, Grasshopper.) The facts are often so easy to locate with Google. Google 'Trump convicted of sexual assault' and there are all the facts right there, in only the time it took to type the query. I sense a lot of grinding teeth. Grrrrrrr! Cursed Google with cursed facts. Try chewing a strip of leather. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, newnative said: The facts are often so easy to locate with Google. Like this fact? Lizard People Secretly Run The World And We Have Proof https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-world-works-explained-by-our-lizard-people-rulers Or how about this one, closer to home... Trump was right: 'Russian collusion' was a hoax. Good luck regaining public's trust. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/05/17/durham-report-vindicates-trump-fbi-russia-investigation/70222344007/ 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: You forgot to include evidence with a link to prove your point. Here's what evidence with a link looks like: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSLDL#0 The problem is, the evidence show that layoffs and discharges are actually actually a bit lower during the Biden Administration than they were during the Trump administration. Ten years too! You can even see the Covid spike. Awesome! But I was talking about recent news and yesterday's jobless numbers: https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-s-p-500-futures-steady-before-gdp-report-after-again-hitting-record/card/u-s-initial-jobless-claims-up-25-000-to-214-000-in-latest-week-LFl2ywmQjVtZlkZUkqYv Likely to rise: https://mondo.com/insights/mass-layoffs-in-2022-whats-next-for-employees/ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, Walker88 said: You obviously have access to that thing called the internet. You can search, and maybe learn something. Read the rules at the beginning of this subforum. It is YOU that has to provide a link, not us. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 I think Biden is better off facing Trump. Trump voters are "dyed in the wool never going to change their minds" voters and Trump would never attract Democrat voters to vote for him. Hayley, however, could pick up all of Trump's voters and potentially steal a proportion of the Democrat vote leading to a win. So, push comes to shove, Trump is better for Biden. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, bendejo said: I also recall what was close to a total pull back from Syria, apparently at Putin's behest. And yes, if DT were president at the time there would be no Russia-Ukraine war, he would have stayed half a would away and Putin would have taken it. Putin is in Syria legally..the US was there illegally...still is.....stealing oil!! Edited January 26 by frank83628 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Will B Good said: I think Biden is better off facing Trump. Trump voters are "dyed in the wool never going to change their minds" voters and Trump would never attract Democrat voters to vote for him. Hayley, however, could pick up all of Trump's voters and potentially steal a proportion of the Democrat vote leading to a win. So, push comes to shove, Trump is better for Biden. Then, there's also she's sane and he's a raging lunatic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, impulse said: Like this fact? Lizard People Secretly Run The World And We Have Proof https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-world-works-explained-by-our-lizard-people-rulers Or how about this one, closer to home... Trump was right: 'Russian collusion' was a hoax. Good luck regaining public's trust. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/05/17/durham-report-vindicates-trump-fbi-russia-investigation/70222344007/ Durham's face saving after his massive failure. The Durham probe brought no additional charges and no changes to agency rules. It did not disprove the IG report concluding that the Russia investigation has been properly predicated. Trump promised the Durham investigation would prove a vendetta. It has largely fallen short. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/20/trump-durham-russia-probe-setback-danchenko-verdict/10540926002/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, impulse said: Like this fact? Lizard People Secretly Run The World And We Have Proof https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-world-works-explained-by-our-lizard-people-rulers There are many things that can be found on the Internet, and facts are one of them, however if you like to think that "Lizard people secretly run the world and we have proof" then you are obviously the sort of person who Trump likes to have as his supporter (look that up if you wish), AND one generally hopes that intelligent folk can see the difference between facts, backed up by facts and nonsense backed up by nonsense publications. Oh, and "common sense" should be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff, in the main, however I understand that this can be difficult for trumpies. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 30 minutes ago, xylophone said: There are many things that can be found on the Internet, and facts are one of them, however if you like to think that "Lizard people secretly run the world and we have proof" then you are obviously the sort of person who Trump likes to have as his supporter (look that up if you wish), AND one generally hopes that intelligent folk can see the difference between facts, backed up by facts and nonsense backed up by nonsense publications. Oh, and "common sense" should be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff, in the main, however I understand that this can be difficult for trumpies. It was a link to Cracked. I figured the joke would be obvious. Focus on the joke and forgot this one? Trump was right: 'Russian collusion' was a hoax. Good luck regaining public's trust. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/05/17/durham-report-vindicates-trump-fbi-russia-investigation/70222344007/ Before the 2020 election, you could scour the interweb all you want and the only place you'd have found this truth is on right wing sites that apparently are not acceptable links here. The same holds true of the laptop story. The MSM was all over the Russian collusion story and "debunking" of the laptop. We're already seeing, and will see more of the same phenomena in the leadup to the 2024 election. Lefties on here have no idea how much easier it is to find links to support even their most wingnut stuff, with 10x as many journalists claiming to be Dems as Repubs. Stuff like "the border is secure". And "Repubs are the ones who are letting millions cross the southern border". And "Biden is fit as a fiddle" Edited January 26 by impulse 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/25/2024 at 2:38 PM, Thingamabob said: As a Brit I would hope for anyone other than Biden as president, no matter whether Democrat or Republican. As bad as Biden is, it could be worse. Kamala Harris. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 15 minutes ago, G_Money said: As bad as Biden is, it could be worse. Kamala Harris. That's why even the Repubs are hoping the impeachment goes nowhere. Biden could be filmed walking across the White House lawn with a decapitated head in one hand and a bloody machete in the other, and they still wouldn't want to replace him with Kamala. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, impulse said: That's why even the Repubs are hoping the impeachment goes nowhere. Biden could be filmed walking across the White House lawn with a decapitated head in one hand and a bloody machete in the other, and they still wouldn't want to replace him with Kamala. Erm…. The impeachment is going nowhere. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 34 minutes ago, impulse said: It was a link to Cracked. I figured the joke would be obvious. Focus on the joke and forgot this one? Trump was right: 'Russian collusion' was a hoax. Good luck regaining public's trust. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/05/17/durham-report-vindicates-trump-fbi-russia-investigation/70222344007/ Before the 2020 election, you could scour the interweb all you want and the only place you'd have found this truth is on right wing sites that apparently are not acceptable links here. The same holds true of the laptop story. The MSM was all over the Russian collusion story and "debunking" of the laptop. We're already seeing, and will see more of the same phenomena in the leadup to the 2024 election. Lefties on here have no idea how much easier it is to find links to support even their most wingnut stuff, with 10x as many journalists claiming to be Dems as Repubs. Stuff like "the border is secure". And "Repubs are the ones who are letting millions cross the southern border". And "Biden is fit as a fiddle" Actually, from reading this opinion piece in USA Today, you'd think Durham was a competent investigator. It's useful to recall that both his major prosecutions failed miserably. To make it worse, the people he prosecuted were not members of the Justice Dept but rather were accused of lying to the Justice Dept. Most legal commentators concurred that the only reason they were pursued was bias on Durham's part. As you probably don't recall, the Inspector General of the Justice Dept previously did an investigation of the FBI investigation. He concluded that bias played no role in the investigation. That there was no conspiracy. When that report was released - even though Durham asked for it not to be - Durham released a commentary in which he expressed doubts about the results of the I.G.s investigation. As did William Barr. Durham and William Barr, the Attorney General, went to extraordinary lengths to find evidence of a conspiracy in the Justice Dept. They even went to Italy together to try to get information out of the Italian intelligence service. That failed. But they were given allegations that Trump was involved with organized crime. Even though it wasn't in his remit, Barr authorized Durham to investigate instead of a different investigator. When Durham's final report was released, essentially he agreed with the Inspector General's report. There was no deep state conspiracy or any kind of conspiracy behind the FBI investigation. I see that this author of the article has repeated the falsehood that the investigation was launched the FBI was launched on the basis of the Steele Dossier. Not true. . In addition, this piece doesn't address the results of the Mueller investigation. Mueller said that if Trump weren't President he would indict him on 10 counts of obstructing justice. Much of that obstruction had to do with the Russia investigation and Trump signaling that he would pardon those whom the Justice Dept investigated, prosecuted and got convicted. And that's exactly what Trump did. William Barr, who decided not to follow up on the results of the Mueller investigation was soundly castigated by the Federal Judge overseeing the matter. Basically, he called Barr a liar for misrepresenting the results of the investigation. Keep in mind that this is an opinion column from a right wing journalist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 39 minutes ago, G_Money said: As bad as Biden is, it could be worse. Kamala Harris. As bad as Kamala Harris is, it could be worse. Donald Trump. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 19 minutes ago, impulse said: That's why even the Repubs are hoping the impeachment goes nowhere. Biden could be filmed walking across the White House lawn with a decapitated head in one hand and a bloody machete in the other, and they still wouldn't want to replace him with Kamala. The only Republicans in office who are hoping the impeachment goes nowhere are those in swing states whose seats will be jeopardized should they vote for impeachment. And those Republicans who understand what it would mean for their those representatives' electoral prospects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 On 1/25/2024 at 9:12 AM, impulse said: Biden's most formidable opponents are stairs and teleprompters. Yet he rides a bike almost daily. Just imagine his opponent on a bicycle? 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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