8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

By a bit keeping in mind there is always a lot of disagreement on how Jews are to be counted especially among Jews.

 

Jewish Population Rises to 15.7 Million Worldwide | The Jewish Agency

 

Being critical of Israel doesn't automatically mean you're a Jew hater but quite often the rhetoric of such criticism strongly indicates that such hatred IS part of it. 

Quite often? I disagree.

Persecution complex is something a few Jews I know suffer from. It is a real thing.  

"persecution complex" is a psychological state where people perceive themselves as being persecuted, whether or not the threat is real or imagined. Historical experiences of persecution have deeply influenced collective memory and cultural identity.

While I understand some Jews may feel a sense of vulnerability and perceive themselves as being targeted or marginalized, it's crucial to differentiate between legitimate concerns about discrimination and unjust treatment and an exaggerated or unfounded belief in persecution.

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Quite often? I disagree.

Persecution complex is something a few Jews I know suffer from. It is a real thing.  

"persecution complex" is a psychological state where people perceive themselves as being persecuted, whether or not the threat is real or imagined. Historical experiences of persecution have deeply influenced collective memory and cultural identity.

While I understand some Jews may feel a sense of vulnerability and perceive themselves as being targeted or marginalized, it's crucial to differentiate between legitimate concerns about discrimination and unjust treatment and an exaggerated or unfounded belief in persecution.

Of course you disagree.

Your history of Jew hating posts made that predictable.

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Quite often? I disagree.

Persecution complex is something a few Jews I know suffer from. It is a real thing.  

"persecution complex" is a psychological state where people perceive themselves as being persecuted, whether or not the threat is real or imagined. Historical experiences of persecution have deeply influenced collective memory and cultural identity.

While I understand some Jews may feel a sense of vulnerability and perceive themselves as being targeted or marginalized, it's crucial to differentiate between legitimate concerns about discrimination and unjust treatment and an exaggerated or unfounded belief in persecution.

@Neeranam you've now also become a Therapist, Psychologist? Amazing how you make such diagnosis on others. How many Jews do you actually know?

18 hours ago, Neeranam said:

There's a big difference to being anti-Isreali policy and being antiJew. 

I think there are more non-Israeli Jews that Israeli ones. 

 

 

Exactly, though I have heard on occasion that it's supposed to be a homeland for Jews, which overlooks all the Israeli Arabs living in it.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course you disagree.

Your history of Jew hating posts made that predictable.

 

Here comes the antisemite accusations you came you don't make.

 

A more useful response would be to point out posts which you do consider to antisemitic and explain why without resorting to an ad hominem attack in the first instance. Then we could have a vitriol free debate. Instrad, your main purpose seems to be to just shout down your detractors with nasty accusations which do amount to flames. Lay off. 

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Exactly, though I have heard on occasion that it's supposed to be a homeland for Jews, which overlooks all the Israeli Arabs living in it.

 

  Israeli Arabs are quite welcome to live in Israel with full Israeli citizenship , 2 million of them indeed do 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course you disagree.

Your history of Jew hating posts made that predictable.

I take offence to this as it is totally untrue.

 

There is no history of Jew hating posts. Prove me wrong by quoting such a post or two.

 

You have this persecution thing bad. I detest what Israel are doing, that is it.

 

My spiritual advisor(sponsor in a recovery program) is a Rabbi, whom I speak with regulary online and visit his home. How on Earth could I be anti-Jewish? I say a Jewish prayer every morning, thanking God for waking up.

 

 

29 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Here comes the antisemite accusations you came you don't make.

 

A more useful response would be to point out posts which you do consider to antisemitic and explain why without resorting to an ad hominem attack in the first instance. Then we could have a vitriol free debate. Instrad, your main purpose seems to be to just shout down your detractors with nasty accusations which do amount to flames. Lay off. 

It's rather pathetic. I don't want to put JT on ignore but it looks like that may happen if he continues with unfounded slanderous attacks.

43 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Exactly, though I have heard on occasion that it's supposed to be a homeland for Jews, which overlooks all the Israeli Arabs living in it.

There are a few Israeli Arabs but they are under a system of Apartheid.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

 

 

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In 2021, Human Rights Watch (HRW) put out a report noting that the Israeli government engaged in “systematic oppression of Palestinians and inhumane acts,” which ultimately “amount to the crime of apartheid.” In 2022, Amnesty International reached a similar conclusion, saying that the Israeli state “imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians” that “amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.”

 

https://www.vox.com/23924319/israel-palestine-apartheid-meaning-history-debate

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In recent years, human rights organizations and legal experts have increasingly described Israel’s policies toward Palestinians as apartheid, adding to a longstanding debate about whether this is an accurate way to categorize the country’s practices.

 

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

@Neeranam you've now also become a Therapist, Psychologist? Amazing how you make such diagnosis on others. How many Jews do you actually know?

 

Including Rabbits?

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Exactly, though I have heard on occasion that it's supposed to be a homeland for Jews, which overlooks all the Israeli Arabs living in it.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

While you troll, some Israeli Arabs also fight on the IDF ranks, and others are held hostage by Hamas.

chuck em all out send em to Palestine or wherever they came from......even the ones born in the UK

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Here comes the antisemite accusations you came you don't make.

 

A more useful response would be to point out posts which you do consider to antisemitic and explain why without resorting to an ad hominem attack in the first instance. Then we could have a vitriol free debate. Instrad, your main purpose seems to be to just shout down your detractors with nasty accusations which do amount to flames. Lay off. 

 

@ozimoron

 

@Neeranam made quite a few antisemitic comments since these topics started. You denying it with your blanket statements is either ignorant or dishonest

 

There's no requirement to dig up such posts each time this is brought up, plus some are long gone by now. They were all addressed head on at the time. You're welcome to actually read topics instead of pontificating or pretending you know what was posted. A 'vitriol free debate' would mean posters like @Neeranam absent, and yourself being forced to read topics you comment on.

 

Your main purpose seems to be denying anything 'damaging' posted, said, or done by 'your' side.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I take offence to this as it is totally untrue.

 

There is no history of Jew hating posts. Prove me wrong by quoting such a post or two.

 

You have this persecution thing bad. I detest what Israel are doing, that is it.

 

My spiritual advisor(sponsor in a recovery program) is a Rabbi, whom I speak with regulary online and visit his home. How on Earth could I be anti-Jewish? I say a Jewish prayer every morning, thanking God for waking up.

 

 

 

@Neeranam

 

You do not 'take offense'. You revel in the opportunity to engage in further baiting, flaming and trolling. It's what you do. It's what you are.

 

All of them posts mentioned were addressed at the time. You can pretend otherwise. Doesn't change anything.

 

Your Rabbit nonsense is just another instance of.

 

Given your ignorance on things Jewish, it is hard to believe you actually learn something from the imaginary spiritual guide.

On 2/6/2024 at 3:18 PM, Neeranam said:

I take offence to this as it is totally untrue.

 

There is no history of Jew hating posts. Prove me wrong by quoting such a post or two.

 

You have this persecution thing bad. I detest what Israel are doing, that is it.

 

My spiritual advisor(sponsor in a recovery program) is a Rabbi, whom I speak with regulary online and visit his home. How on Earth could I be anti-Jewish? I say a Jewish prayer every morning, thanking God for waking up.

 

 

IMO anyone that doesn't toe the anti Palestinian line is automatically a Jew hater, in the yes of a few on this forum.

Of course it's just nonsense.

On 2/6/2024 at 5:15 PM, Rampant Rabbit said:

chuck em all out send em to Palestine or wherever they came from......even the ones born in the UK

Unless you are of Celtic blood perhaps you should be joining them if you have that attitude, Anyone of Saxon or Norman descent is only living in the UK because their ancestors invaded the country by force of arms. Illegal immigrants!

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO anyone that doesn't toe the anti Palestinian line is automatically a Jew hater, in the yes of a few on this forum.

Of course it's just nonsense.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

People who make antisemitic comments get called antisemites.

Not too complicated.

 

You saying everyone, with or without that 'IMO' bit, is not supported by fact.

 

What is factual is that a whole lot of you guys make such comments. Some more, some less. Some more offensive, some borderline.

But they sure do come out of the woods on these topics.

18 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless you are of Celtic blood perhaps you should be joining them if you have that attitude, Anyone of Saxon or Norman descent is only living in the UK because their ancestors invaded the country by force of arms. Illegal immigrants!

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Whereas in New Zealand.....

On 2/6/2024 at 9:18 AM, Neeranam said:

I take offence to this as it is totally untrue.

 

There is no history of Jew hating posts. Prove me wrong by quoting such a post or two.

 

You have this persecution thing bad. I detest what Israel are doing, that is it.

 

My spiritual advisor(sponsor in a recovery program) is a Rabbi, whom I speak with regulary online and visit his home. How on Earth could I be anti-Jewish? I say a Jewish prayer every morning, thanking God for waking up.

 

 

@Jingthing

If you can't find any of my 'Jew-hating' posts I expect an apology. 

31 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

@Jingthing

If you can't find any of my 'Jew-hating' posts I expect an apology. 

 

@Neeranam

 

No one takes your trolling and faux indignation seriously.

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless you are of Celtic blood perhaps you should be joining them if you have that attitude, Anyone of Saxon or Norman descent is only living in the UK because their ancestors invaded the country by force of arms. Illegal immigrants!

on that basis Im moving to Africa.

On 2/6/2024 at 11:17 AM, Morch said:

 

@ozimoron

 

@Neeranam made quite a few antisemitic comments since these topics started. You denying it with your blanket statements is either ignorant or dishonest

 

There's no requirement to dig up such posts each time this is brought up, plus some are long gone by now. They were all addressed head on at the time. You're welcome to actually read topics instead of pontificating or pretending you know what was posted. A 'vitriol free debate' would mean posters like @Neeranam absent, and yourself being forced to read topics you comment on.

 

Your main purpose seems to be denying anything 'damaging' posted, said, or done by 'your' side.

You are intent to call me an antisemite, which I'm not. 

Quote one of my posts which is antisemitic or shut up.

 

 

Just now, Neeranam said:

You are intent to call me an antisemite, which I'm not. 

Quote one of my posts which is antisemitic or shut up.

 

 

 

@Neeranam

 

I have done so on numerous occasions, in direct response to such comments by you.

Your denials are pathetic, just more of the silly trolling act you're into.

On 2/6/2024 at 11:20 AM, Morch said:

 

@Neeranam

 

You do not 'take offense'. You revel in the opportunity to engage in further baiting, flaming and trolling. It's what you do. It's what you are.

 

All of them posts mentioned were addressed at the time. You can pretend otherwise. Doesn't change anything.

 

Your Rabbit nonsense is just another instance of.

 

Given your ignorance on things Jewish, it is hard to believe you actually learn something from the imaginary spiritual guide.

Unbelievable that you continue to 

troll, despite me telling you I'd rather not c read your baiting posts. 

Sadly, I'll have to keep checking some of your slanderous posts. 

 

What rabbit nonsense? 

 

 

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

@Neeranam

 

I have done so on numerous occasions, in direct response to such comments by you.

Your denials are pathetic, just more of the silly trolling act you're into.

Liar. 

 

@Morch

I'll ask you directly as am tired of this baiting. 

Why don't you believe I've a friend and spiritual advisor who is a Rabbi?

Why do you continually call him a rabbit? 

 

I suspect it's because you don't practice your religion, as you mentioned before. 

27 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Unbelievable that you continue to 

troll, despite me telling you I'd rather not c read your baiting posts. 

Sadly, I'll have to keep checking some of your slanderous posts. 

 

What rabbit nonsense? 

 

 

 

@Neeranam

 

You do not have to read my posts. Your choice.

Your faux outrage is not very convincing. Work on your act.

29 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Liar. 

 

 

@Neeranam

 

Nope. I have commented on numerous post by yours, which were either antisemitic, or borderline so.

Facts.

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

@Neeranam

 

Nope. I have commented on numerous post by yours, which were either antisemitic, or borderline so.

Facts.

Oh, borderline now.

I'm waiting, also for @Jingthing to quote an antisemitic post I wrote.

 

 You missed th question about a rabbit, stop being such a child.

26 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

@Morch

I'll ask you directly as am tired of this baiting. 

Why don't you believe I've a friend and spiritual advisor who is a Rabbi?

Why do you continually call him a rabbit? 

 

I suspect it's because you don't practice your religion, as you mentioned before. 

 

@Neeranam

 

You are not 'tired' of baiting. It's what you're about.

 

Nothing in your posts indicates that you have much of a clue regarding Judaism. Certainly not on par with having a 'spiritual advisor'. Antisemitic comments aside, your whole conduct on these topics is opposed to the guidance such a supposed 'spiritual advisor' would condone.

 

I doubt many Rabbis, if exposed to your online persona, would have much to do with you. How you market yourself in real life could be different. As such, and as your posts are generally trolling nonsense, I do not believe you have such a 'spiritual guide', and hence the Rabbit, rather than your imaginary trolling effort of you claiming him a Rabbi - supposedly to lend your trolling comments more 'credibility' (but achieving the opposite).

 

I am not a religious person, never was. No need to 'suspect' anything. Said it often enough.