As Israel attacks Rafah, US offers only words of caution

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

As I said "semantics" and not a big difference.

Sending billions in military aid, frees other funds to spend as one feels. 

It is called enabling. 

For instance I will not give you money to buy drugs, but I will pay for your rent so that , not having to spend money for rent, now you have money to buy drugs.  

Its a huge difference what are you talking about?

[Nick Carter icp]

11 minutes ago, sirineou said:

As I said "semantics" and not a big difference.

Sending billions in military aid, frees other funds to spend as one feels. 

It is called enabling. 

For instance I will not give you money to buy drugs, but I will pay for your rent so that , not having to spend money for rent, now you have money to buy drugs.  

 

   The point is that the aid money which the USA provides for Israel goes straight back into the USA economy and is a benefit for the American economy and Israel will them also buy other USA made weapons because they are compliant with the free weapons 

[sirineou]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The point is that the aid money which the USA provides for Israel goes straight back into the USA economy and is a benefit for the American economy

it does , but so it would if it was spend Americans , with the additional benefit of helping Americans and not enabling Israelis. 

Don't anyone see the inconsistency of telling someone not to attack someone else, and then giving them the weapons to attack that someone else?? If one had   half a brain it would ne laughable. if it was not so tragic. 

How about aid with conditions?  Yea, good luck that happening.

[Morch]

10 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Not right now. Morch asked that I meant something with my “last comments” earlier  Tonite one of my comments was apparently deleted. So I have not the foggiest idea of what HE was talking about. 

 

I did not 'ask'.

I was referring to remarks appearing at the end of the post I was replying to.

Not too complicated, really.

 

[Morch]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently in "good health", contrary to claims the prisoners were being treated badly. Certainly in better health than the Gazans killed the same day by israeli delivered bombs, likely provided by America.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/12/middleeast/israel-hostages-rescued-gaza-rafah-intl-hnk/index.html

The hostages, 60-year-old Fernando Simon Marman and 70-year-old Louis Har, had spent 128 days in captivity. Both men are in relatively good condition and have since reunited with their families.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Some hostages (not 'prisoners') were treated ok, many weren't. Another Hamas whitewashing effort by one of their supporters on here.

 

Hamas could release the hostages, or not place the civilian population in harm's way, but apparently for you there's only one accountable party (or two, if you include 'the West').

[Morch]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that no Gazans have been killed, or it's a few thousand less than claimed? Does it matter if it's one thousand or 12 thousand children got blown to bits- any child blown to bits is a child too many. Is your point that it's OK for israel to commit crimes against humanity as long as it's less women and children getting blown up than Hamas claims?

Next I expect you to be claiming that all those building we see blown up are actually still standing and it's all just AI propaganda, while the Gazans are having picnics on the beach.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

So, details and facts are not important if they go against the one-sided propaganda narrative you push. Glad you cleared that up. Wouldn't want anyone suspecting your posts are anything like balanced, well-reasoned, or anything.

[scottiejohn]

11 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Almost everyone of my posts on every subject gets a confused emoji from the dullards.

Have you considered the possibility that your post are marked as confusing because they are confusing to the reader(s)?

[Rimmer]

Flames and replies removed also some off topic posts and replies

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, sirineou said:

Don't anyone see the inconsistency of telling someone not to attack someone else, and then giving them the weapons to attack that someone else?? I

IMO Biden and his cronies think everyone is too stupid to put the two things together, and they can do anything they like as long as they say the right words.

[metisdead]

A post with a video using a foreign language contravening The War in Israel forum header has been removed:  

• All video content must be from a credible media source, and in English. Foreign languages, even with subtitles, are not permitted.

[Bkk Brian]

Excellent video of the actual hostage rescue here:

 

The IDF releases new footage from the hostage rescue operation in southern Gaza's Rafah overnight, showing special forces coming under fire and the moments when the Navy's Shayetet 13 commando unit accompanied Fernando Simon Marman and Norberto Louis Har to a helipad in the Strip.

"The hostages are in our hands, there is gunfire against the force," an officer is heard saying over the radio.

"The force has begun movement on the axis, the force is heading out," another officer is heard saying, as footage shows a convoy of armored personnel carriers driving in Gaza.

Footage from one of the APCs shows Shayetet 13 commandos asking Marman and Har how they are shortly after they were rescued by the Shin Bet and the police's Yamam unit.

"In shock," one of them replies. 

"Do you feel good?" an officer asks Har, who responds: "Excellent."

The naval commandos give the pair coats to wear before they head out to the helipad.

One of the soldiers also gave Har his shoes, as he was extracted barefoot, and is seen tying the shoelaces for him in the video.

The soldiers also offer the pair water bottles and ask if they need a blanket for warmth.

The two hostages then boarded a helicopter in Gaza, which took them to Sheba Hospital in Ramat Gan, where they are currently listed in good condition.
 

 

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1757102786028659021

 

[WDSmart]

23 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

This is where your complete lack of credibility is laid bare; there are no various sources with regard to Palestinian casualties in Gaza. All figures are from the Gaza Health Ministry, released only after approval from the Hamas leadership.

 

It matters not a jot which news outlet the figures appear in, they will all share a common source, Hamas. So, saying CNN report figures from various sources is factually incorrect; because although these sources might well be the UN, Al Jazeera, the BBC, Sky, or the entirely discredited UNRWA, the figures will only have come from Hamas, and no other source.

 

You are either naive and gullible enough not to realise this, or you have been continually posting figures that you know full well to be disingenuous at best, but much more likely to be completely falsified propaganda …….. not difficult for me to guess which  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Well, the other source of actions, casualties, death, and breakdown (militants vs. civilians) is from the IDF. Why would you trust them more than the Gaza Health Ministry?

[WDSmart]

22 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Who took them hostage? Who placed them among civilians?

Who killed the civilians?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Who killed the civilians?

 

Hamas .... with the help of several hundred of those 'innocent' Gaza civilians 

[transam]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Who killed the civilians?

Hamas actions in October, all down to those who thought Iran's backup would prevail..FAIL...

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Well, the other source of actions, casualties, death, and breakdown (militants vs. civilians) is from the IDF. Why would you trust them more than the Gaza Health Ministry?

 

   Of Course , the IDF are honest .

Hamas tell lies .

I would trust the IDF and I wouldn't even listen to the lies Hamas spout 

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Of Course , the IDF are honest .

Hamas tell lies .

I would trust the IDF and I wouldn't even listen to the lies Hamas spout 

Yes, I understand. That's why, IMO, you can only see one side. I believe both Hamas and the IDF adjust the numbers to support their cause. Some of that might not be actual lies, but just estimates based of what they believe. For example, how can you really determine if an adult male Palestinian is a militant or civilian? If he has a weapon, the likelihood he is, but even then, he might just be carrying a weapon to protect himself and his family. And, if he doesn't have a weapon, maybe he discarded it to try to seem to be a civilian. If he's shot and killed, Hamas might count him as a civilian and IDF count him as a militant. Who knows? 

I know you trust IDF and think everything Hamas says is lies, but I tend to believe the truth is always somewhere in the middle.  

[Morch]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I understand. That's why, IMO, you can only see one side. I believe both Hamas and the IDF adjust the numbers to support their cause. Some of that might not be actual lies, but just estimates based of what they believe. For example, how can you really determine if an adult male Palestinian is a militant or civilian? If he has a weapon, the likelihood he is, but even then, he might just be carrying a weapon to protect himself and his family. And, if he doesn't have a weapon, maybe he discarded it to try to seem to be a civilian. If he's shot and killed, Hamas might count him as a civilian and IDF count him as a militant. Who knows? 

I know you trust IDF and think everything Hamas says is lies, but I tend to believe the truth is always somewhere in the middle.  

 

No, you don't. Your posts are generally supportive of Hamas and/or Palestinian positions.

[Captain Monday]

12 hours ago, Morch said:

 

I did not 'ask'.

I was referring to remarks appearing at the end of the post I was replying to.

Not too complicated, really.

 

Still no idea of what you were talking about. Could it be the sura I quoted which was deleted?

And no it was not altered . I do not read The Noble Quran in original form, only translations, of which there are many.

 

There is a religious element to this conflict.

 

As a man of your intelligence you know that this surah was adopted, from a higher authority.

Meaning it was cribbed from a book of the Torah

All so-called religions are syncretic

[Social Media]

Topic Updates: South Africa seeks World Court intervention to block Israeli offensive against Hamas in Rafah

 

South Africa once again appeals to the International Court of Justice, requesting that the court consider ordering Israel to refrain from attacking the Gazan city of Rafah.

The IDF is preparing to stage an operation in Rafah to attack four largely intact Hamas battalions situated in the city. Israel believes senior Hamas leaders are also present in Rafah or below it the Hamas tunnel system, along with some of the Israeli hostages the terror group is holding captive.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/south-africa-seeks-world-court-intervention-to-block-israeli-offensive-against-hamas-in-rafah/

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I know you trust IDF and think everything Hamas says is lies, but I tend to believe the truth is always somewhere in the middle. 

 

Really; then how come in all your hundreds of comments you have only ever quoted Hamas figures. It may have escaped your attention, but most pro Israel posters, like myself, never proclaim any figures from the IDF, or Israeli government.

 

Conversely, you continue to be a propagandist for Hamas, by continually posting their claims of casualties; and it must be said, always in a shouty  student, sensationalist tone, with repeated mention of women and children, but never, ever, a mention of Hamas terrorist casualties.

 

Do you really think people on this forum do not see through your unedifying bias and support for terrorists  …. rhetorical    

 

[Bkk Brian]

Here is the evil snake Hamas leader Yahye Sinwar scurrying like a rat with his family in a tunnel, video captured some time ago but shows his cowardly nature hiding in tunnels while the Gaza civilians are the human shields.

 

 

IDF releases new footage of Hamas leader Yahye Sinwar hiding in tunnel under Gaza

(JNS) The Israel Defense Forces released a new video on Tuesday night that appears to show Hamas terror leader Yahya Sinwar and his family hiding in a tunnel under Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip.

IDF forces recovered the security camera footage during a raid of a “strategic tunnel” underneath the southern Hamas stronghold, according to Israel’s Channel 13. Seen entering the tunnel shaft with one of his wives and three children, Sinwar appears unhurt.

A Hamas operative with a flashlight accompanies the terror leader, who wears Adidas flip-flops and carries a small plastic bag.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/unrwa-closing-would-be-disaster-says-boss-of-unrwa-ma0qv4qj

 

 

[mooping20Baht]

anything you don't like "is Hamas" ; meanwhile:

 

Quote

Devastating! "after 126 days of war:  27,946 Palestinians have been killed (7,000 more Palestinians are missing in the rubble and presumed dead), including 12,345 children, 7,656 women, 309 health personnel, 41 civil defense personnel, and 121 journalists. At least, 67,459 Palestinians have been wounded. There are more than 1.7 million internally displaced Palestinians in Gaza. At least, 389 Palestinians sheltering in UN facilities have been killed in Israeli airstrikes and another 1,374 have been wounded. 154 UN workers have been killed and 150 UN facilities damaged in more than 290 attacks by the IDF. 79,200 housing units have been destroyed and another 207,000 housing units have been damaged. Israeli airstrikes have targeted 334 schools, 1,720 industrial facilities, 478 mosques, three churches, 171 press offices, and 199 archaeological sites. Two hundred thirty-five health facilities have been targeted, including 26 hospitals, 63 clinics, and 146 ambulances. Out of the 36 hospitals in the Gaza Strip, only 13 are partially functional, and less than 17% of the primary healthcare clinics in the Strip are still even partially operating. (Sources: UNRWA and Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor)"

 

 

oh right, UNRWA (without any evidence) is Hamas also, so nevermind, fake news

 

[WDSmart]

12 hours ago, Morch said:

 

No, you don't. Your posts are generally supportive of Hamas and/or Palestinian positions.

Yes, I do understand and see the entire picture. You don't, and that, and at least the following four reasons, is why you believe I am supportive of Hamas.
1. The first and most potent is that you are so biased in favor of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions that you judge any post that questions or challenges that perspective is supportive of Hamas and/or Palestinian positions.

2. The second is that there is no need for me to post supportively of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions since you and several others constantly deluge this Topic with those. Most of my posts do try to reveal the other perspective to try to make sure everyone sees both sides.

3. The third is I am not supportive of the Zionist position, which is focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Israeli positions, like wanting the hostages returned unharmed and wanting assurance that there will never be another Oct 7th-like attack, but without relying on the carnage caused by the continuing Zionist-led attacks on Gaza.
4. The fourth is I am not supportive of the Hamas position, which is also focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Palestinian position, which is focused on reaching some agreement with the Israelis on how both of them can live on this same land in peace, which most likely implies some kind of two-state solution.

[WDSmart]

10 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Really; then how come in all your hundreds of comments you have only ever quoted Hamas figures. It may have escaped your attention, but most pro Israel posters, like myself, never proclaim any figures from the IDF, or Israeli government.

 

Conversely, you continue to be a propagandist for Hamas, by continually posting their claims of casualties; and it must be said, always in a shouty  student, sensationalist tone, with repeated mention of women and children, but never, ever, a mention of Hamas terrorist casualties.

 

Do you really think people on this forum do not see through your unedifying bias and support for terrorists  …. rhetorical    

 

Read my reply to Morch just above this one about this same subject (the content of my posts).

[Morch]

14 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Still no idea of what you were talking about. Could it be the sura I quoted which was deleted?

And no it was not altered . I do not read The Noble Quran in original form, only translations, of which there are many.

 

There is a religious element to this conflict.

 

As a man of your intelligence you know that this surah was adopted, from a higher authority.

Meaning it was cribbed from a book of the Torah

All so-called religions are syncretic

 

Other than you seemingly getting a bit obsessive with this....

 

I have replied to a post you made. It is still up topic, not deleted.

Referenced it twice now. Explained what was I was talking about.

 

Maybe go for that 'dullards' again - apparently you are allowed to, whereas replying in kind is a 'flame'.

A bit ironic, though.

 

 

 

[Morch]

2 hours ago, mooping20Baht said:

anything you don't like "is Hamas" ; meanwhile:

 

 

 

oh right, UNRWA (without any evidence) is Hamas also, so nevermind, fake news

 

 

During the fighting, UNRWA reports are mostly based on figures supplied by the Hamas controlled Ministry of Health in the Gaza Strip. These figures do not differentiate between civilians and combatants, they do not make clear how many or which casualties were caused by Hamas (and other terrorist organizations). Similarly, UNRWA's statement fails to acknowledge Hamas use of attacked facilities etc.

 

Obviously, links are beneath you.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I do understand and see the entire picture. You don't, and that, and at least the following four reasons, is why you believe I am supportive of Hamas.
1. The first and most potent is that you are so biased in favor of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions that you judge any post that questions or challenges that perspective is supportive of Hamas and/or Palestinian positions.

2. The second is that there is no need for me to post supportively of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions since you and several others constantly deluge this Topic with those. Most of my posts do try to reveal the other perspective to try to make sure everyone sees both sides.

3. The third is I am not supportive of the Zionist position, which is focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Israeli positions, like wanting the hostages returned unharmed and wanting assurance that there will never be another Oct 7th-like attack, but without relying on the carnage caused by the continuing Zionist-led attacks on Gaza.
4. The fourth is I am not supportive of the Hamas position, which is also focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Palestinian position, which is focused on reaching some agreement with the Israelis on how both of them can live on this same land in peace, which most likely implies some kind of two-state solution.

 

You can make false claims all you like. Most of my comments regarding Israel illegal settlement effort in the West Bank, are negative (notice that 'illegal' there? It's a clue). Most of my comments on Netanyahu and the current Israeli government? Negative as well. Similarly, no gung-ho comments regarding the fighting in the Gaza Strip, nor reveling in the deaths of Palestinian civilians. And, of course - nothing along the lines of your 'control all the land' on going nonsense.

 

So once more, you simply demonstrated a disconnect between what is and what's your 'opinion'.

 

You continue to exhibit willful ignorance and wrong use regarding relevant concepts, labels, ideologies and so on. You do so without actually bothering to substantiate any of this, again insisting that your ignorant 'opinion' trumps facts. This is most apparent when it comes to your various uses of 'Zionist' - in contexts and meanings which are way off mark.

 

Considering you have not actually shown much knowledge about the factions involved, their policies, agenda, composition or leadership, your claims to 'support' this or that are meaningless.

 

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Thanks for your post.

I'd only add to the final paragraph quoted above with the editions noted below:

It's time to acknowledge this truth bluntly. Those who claim to desire peace must confront and challenge the rejectionist elements within Palestinian society, including Hamas, and within Israeli society, specifically the Zionists and the current government. We need to get rid of the Palestinian and Israeli establishment, who have ruled for 15 years without actually representing the Palestinian or the moderate Israeli people. Only then can we hope to forge a path toward a peaceful, two-state future.”

 

There you go again, insisting on a framing Zionism as something which it ain't. Why is it that you feel the need to edit the author's words? Do you consider him less informed than yourself? Or do you feel it's your right to misconstrue his ideas to fit your agenda and warped thinking?

 

About as bizarre and clueless as it gets.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

For anyone interested, some truth about the Palestinian leadership(s) ..... Below, I have pasted an open letter written by Bassem Eid who is a  Palestinian Human Rights Activist that lives in the West Bank. It was published in Newsweek on 28th January 2024

 

“There's been a lot of criticism of Israel recently for purportedly rejecting a two-state solution for sharing the territory of what was once the British Palestine Mandate between two peoples. The truth is more complex. As a Palestinian who genuinely yearns for a two-state solution and an improvement in living conditions in the West Bank and Gaza, I believe this truth must be told: It is Israel—and the Zionist Jewish community preceding independence—that consistently offered compromise, dialogue, and a two-state solution. And it is Palestinian demagogues valuing personal power over the good of their people who have rejected these openhanded offers—in favour of endless strife and the desire that the Jewish community be completely destroyed.

 

It is the Palestinian Arab nationalist movement that has betrayed the Palestinian people and consistently opposed peace. Unfortunately, the views of the antisemitic Palestinian political heads often overshadow the voices of real Palestinians who yearn for peace. Their voices only rarely are heard, as in a recent protest in Gaza in which women and children protested against Hamas, blaming the terrorist organisation for the tragedy of their lives and showcasing the divide between the people and their leaders.

 

But it's not just Hamas. Palestinian leadership has sold out its people since the beginning of the last century—even as the Jews tried again and again to offer us a state.

In 1922, the League of Nations unanimously voted to establish the Palestine Mandate as a Jewish National Home with a map depicting not only Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, but also what is now Jordan, which the British instead set up as a separate Arab monarchy, cutting off more than 75 percent of the original land grant. This vision was drastically diminished by the creation of Jordan, yet the Jewish community saw it as an opportunity for coexistence.

The response? A series of Arab attacks terrorizing Jews in Palestine in the 1920s and 30s, which, right under the eyes of British rule, destroyed ancient Jewish communities in places like Hebron.

 

When the British Peel Commission proposed a partition of Palestine in 1937, the Jewish leadership, in a spirit of compromise, accepted it, despite the small size of the proposed Jewish state. But in what would become a recurring theme, this gesture of peace was met with outright rejection from the Arab community. This wasn't just a refusal of terms; it was a refusal even to entertain the possibility of peaceful coexistence by Palestinian leaders like Haj Amin el-Husseini, who went on to serve as a Nazi collaborator in World War II, recruiting Balkan Muslims for the S.S.

 

When the United Nations General Assembly voted to divide the Mandate into Jewish and Arab states in 1947, the Jewish community joyously accepted their proposal. Yet tragically, the Palestinian Arab leadership again rejected even a small Jewish state in the territory. They then invited the armies of seven neighbouring Arab countries to invade and destroy the newborn Jewish state in what became Israel's War of Independence.

The trend continued with the Oslo Accords of 1993, in which Israeli leaders generously allowed a genocidal terrorist group called the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), run by the mastermind mass murderer Yasser Arafat, to take control over most of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The year 2000 was a critical juncture. At the Camp David Summit, Israel extended an unprecedented offer of Palestinian statehood. They were once again met with Palestinian leadership's refusal—and the eruption of the bloody Second Intifada, a wave of suicide bombings that killed almost a thousand Israeli civilians.

 

The betrayal shattered any illusion of a commitment to a peaceful resolution from the Palestinian side.

Then came 2008, at the Annapolis Conference, where Israel once again reached out with a proposal for an independent Palestinian state. The refusal of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to accept this offer was not just disappointing; it was infuriating. Today, Abbas, who came to power in 2004, is serving the nineteenth year of his four-year presidential term, having suspended both elections and the constitution in the Palestinian territories.

Meanwhile, the Gaza Strip is ruled by the vile Hamas, the ISIS of Palestine, which, on October 7, 2023, invaded the communities of Southern Israel, murdering 1,200 souls in a single day of nightmares and taking more than 240 captives to Gaza. Alongside these murders were unspeakable acts of sexual assault and continuous abuses of hostages until today, a grim reminder of the human cost of this conflict.

 

 

The sworn objective of Hamas's founding charter is not coexistence but the obliteration of Israel. Khaled Meshaal, former head of Hamas and still one of its most senior leaders, clarified just this month Hamas's position on the idea of a two-state solution: "We reject this notion, because it means you would get a promise for a [Palestinian] state, yet you are required to recognise the legitimacy of the other state, which is the Zionist entity... We will not give up on our right to Palestine in its entirety, from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea." He insisted on his belief that Oct. 7 only "enhanced this conviction."

The history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict regarding a two-state solution reveals a harsh reality: Israel has consistently made genuine efforts toward peace, only to be met with rejection, treachery, and blood-curdling violence by the Palestinian side. This pattern of refusal, particularly epitomized by groups like Hamas, has been the real obstacle to peace.

 

It's time to acknowledge this truth bluntly. Those who claim to desire peace must confront and challenge the rejectionist elements within Palestinian society, including Hamas. We need to get rid of the Palestinian establishment who have ruled for 15 years without actually representing the Palestinian people. Only then can we hope to forge a path toward a peaceful, two-state future”

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a link to the column:

 

My Fellow Palestinians: It's Time to Get Rid of Our Leaders and Accept Israel's Offers for Peace | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/my-fellow-palestinians-its-time-get-rid-our-leaders-accept-israels-offers-peace-opinion-1864654

 

And more about the man:

 

Bassem Eid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassem_Eid

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I do understand and see the entire picture. You don't, and that, and at least the following four reasons, is why you believe I am supportive of Hamas.
1. The first and most potent is that you are so biased in favor of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions that you judge any post that questions or challenges that perspective is supportive of Hamas and/or Palestinian positions.

2. The second is that there is no need for me to post supportively of the Zionist and/or Israeli positions since you and several others constantly deluge this Topic with those. Most of my posts do try to reveal the other perspective to try to make sure everyone sees both sides.

3. The third is I am not supportive of the Zionist position, which is focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Israeli positions, like wanting the hostages returned unharmed and wanting assurance that there will never be another Oct 7th-like attack, but without relying on the carnage caused by the continuing Zionist-led attacks on Gaza.
4. The fourth is I am not supportive of the Hamas position, which is also focused on gaining control of all of the land in question by any means necessary. I am supportive of the more moderate Palestinian position, which is focused on reaching some agreement with the Israelis on how both of them can live on this same land in peace, which most likely implies some kind of two-state solution.

I believe he is Israeli, hence the bias.