The economy is roaring. Immigration is a key reason.

[sqwakvfr]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

This is actually a post from you.

How would I remember such a thing if I am just like Joe Biden? 

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

How would I remember such a thing if I am just like Joe Biden? 

You asked how I judged your political stance. I cited this post of yours as as further evidence. Nowhere did I liken you to Joe Biden. That was your own weird take on my post.

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 

You and your worthless stats.

 

How about dealing with the real world.  But then you’ll have to abandon your liberal news sources because they won’t tell you what really happening the real world.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/migrant-crime-forcing-dramatic-political-shift-nyc-mayor-calls-sanctuary-law-changes-benson

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/laken-riley-murder-students-uga-campus-joggers-nationwide-shocked-alleged-illegal-immigrant-killing

https://www.foxnews.com/us/musk-dems-wont-deport-criminal-migrants-every-illegal-highly-likely-vote

 

You've got nothing.

[sqwakvfr]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You asked how I judged your political stance. I cited this post of yours as as further evidence. Nowhere did I liken you to Joe Biden. That was your own weird take on my post.

I never asked for your judgement.  You inserted the story about Joe Biden with your response.  

[G_Money]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You've got nothing.

More than your worthless bean counting stats.

 

Real crime in real America by real illegal aliens.

 

You are in denial, and I’m not talking about the river in Egypt.

Edited February 28 by G_Money

[G_Money]

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You've got nothing.

I got something.  You won’t find this on CNN or MSNBC.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/salvadoran-illegal-immigrant-arrested-connection-maryland-murder-2-year-old-boy

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-captures-escaped-colombian-murderer-who-new-jersey-authorities-released-without-detainer

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-katie-porter-says-murder-georgia-student-illegal-immigrant-shouldnt-shape-immigration-policy
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/venezuelan-illegal-immigrant-charged-sexual-assault-14-year-old-virginia
 

Once again.  Real crime by illegal aliens.  Get off the spread sheets and wake up.

[G_Money]

25 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You've got nothing.

Weak counterpoint!  Very weak!

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Also, the dairy industry

How undocumented immigrants became the backbone of dairies — and how to keep the milk flowing in America’s Dairyland
Farmers, experts say reliance on immigrant workers, many of them in the U.S. illegally, will continue unless dairies — and Congress — make significant changes

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2017/10/how-undocumented-immigrants-became-the-backbone-of-dairies-and-how-to-keep-the-milk-flowing-in-americas-dairyland/

 

U.S. Dairy Industry’s Economic Impact Totals $753 Billion

https://www.idfa.org/news/u-s-dairy-industrys-economic-impact-totals-753-billion

The vast majority of agricultural workers get H2A visas to work legally.

 

Most illegal aliens are not picking lettuce.  And why would they when Democrats/liberals give them everything they need on a silver platter.

[sirineou]

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

Immigration has propelled the U.S. job market further than just about anyone expected, helping cement the country’s economic rebound from the pandemic as the most robust in the world.

That momentum picked up aggressively over the past year. About 50 percent of the labor market’s extraordinary recent growth came from foreign-born workers between January 2023 and January 2024, according to an Economic Policy Institute analysis of federal data. 

https://news.yahoo.com/economy-roaring-immigration-key-reason-181700645.html

Probably one of the most urgent problems in the world is low fertility 

"Global fertility has collapsed, with profound economic consequences "

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/06/01/global-fertility-has-collapsed-with-profound-economic-consequences

  Simply said is that most of the worlds advanced economies have a fertility rate much lower than the replacement rate nessacery to maintain their current population , never mind grow it, and it is declining at an alarming rate 

"Italy's declining population fuels long-term economic uncertainty " 

https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/16/italys-declining-population-fuels-long-term-economic-uncertainty

The US has an couple advantages on that front.

It is a desirable legal immigration destination. 

It has a world class University system that creates a brain drain on other countries. 

And anyone born in the US is automatically a US citizen, So Illegal immigrants who have a higher birth rate  that US citizens, not only provide cheap labor for menial jobs, they provide new young. motivated american citizens

that not only stabilizes the population, but also lowerers the median age of the US to 38 .1, as opposed to the 44.4 of the EU. and 49.1 in Japan. 

And then you have trump and the Magamorons who want to kill the Golden Goose 

What a bunch of buffoons!! 

 

 

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

You've got nothing.

More nothing!

 

 You won’t hear this from Rachel Madcow, Keith Overbite or AC/DC Cooper as it doesn’t fit in with their narrative or from any Biden approved Department of Labor “stats”.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347752111112

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347746190112
 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/migrant-charged-georgia-nursing-students-murder-housed-taxpayer-funded-charity-lawmaker-says
 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-phil-call-action-enough-crime-wave-caused-illegal-immigration
 

This is only illegal alien crime.  

There is more with US citizens too with the rapid deterioration of major Democratic run American cities after years of failed liberal policies.

 

Whoopy and Joyce won’t dare talk about it either.

[G_Money]

“Economy is roaring “  “Immigration is a key reason “

 

The Democrats prefer illegal aliens over their own citizens.  We already know the motives.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/denver-cutting-some-city-employees-hours-down-zero-support-migrants-insist-these-arent-layoffs

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Legal Immigrants.  I was once a legal immigrant. As a former immigrant I am not anti-immigrant. 

Ok, do you think California farmers would be agreeable to frequent checks of the status of their immigrant labor and agree to stiff penalties if they hire illegal immigrants?

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Always attacking the source, and not the actual data.

 

So, show me the data from a "less biased source".  

 

BTW, fact checkers are usually more biased than the checkees.

 

Why would I dig up data regarding your claim?  I'm only suggesting your claims would have more credibility of you didn't rely on sources with connections to hate groups.

[sqwakvfr]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

Ok, do you think California farmers would be agreeable to frequent checks of the status of their immigrant labor and agree to stiff penalties if they hire illegal immigrants?

No.  But I lived in a small town in central California, Porterville, and it is a farming community.  Immigration does not have a presence there.  Farming has a had pass for generations by US Immigration.  This does not mean the entire nations should be flooded with migrants.  Not all Farm workers all illegal or “undocumented”.  Many are on on guest worker visa’s. 

[placeholder]

13 hours ago, G_Money said:

More nothing!

 

 You won’t hear this from Rachel Madcow, Keith Overbite or AC/DC Cooper as it doesn’t fit in with their narrative or from any Biden approved Department of Labor “stats”.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347752111112

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347746190112
 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/migrant-charged-georgia-nursing-students-murder-housed-taxpayer-funded-charity-lawmaker-says
 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-phil-call-action-enough-crime-wave-caused-illegal-immigration
 

This is only illegal alien crime.  

There is more with US citizens too with the rapid deterioration of major Democratic run American cities after years of failed liberal policies.

 

Whoopy and Joyce won’t dare talk about it either.

Nothing you've cited has any bearing on whether undocumented aliens commit proportionately more crimes of violence than do authorized immigrants or native-born Americans.

As for crime in red sections of the USA

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

The loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are two of the biggest reasons.

https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-crime-rural-urban-cities.html

 

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Nothing you've cited has any bearing on whether undocumented aliens commit proportionately more crimes of violence than do authorized immigrants or native-born Americans.

As for crime in red sections of the USA

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

The loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are two of the biggest reasons.

https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-crime-rural-urban-cities.html

 

Yeah right!

 

Tell this to the families killed by illegal aliens.

 

Noticed your link isn’t from Madcow, Overbite or AC/DC, Whoopy or Joyce.

 

You’ll never hear them speak of crime by illegal aliens.  Doesn’t fit their agenda.

 

 

[sirineou]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Yeah right!

 

Tell this to the families killed by illegal aliens.

 

Noticed your link isn’t from Madcow, Overbite or AC/DC, Whoopy or Joyce.

 

You’ll never hear them speak of crime by illegal aliens.  Doesn’t fit their agenda.

 

 

People are killed by all sort of people and yes some by illegal aliens,

Research shows that the crime rate by illegal aliens is significantly lower that the general population, so if you are indeed concerned about crime against you and yours you might want to replace all americans with illegal aliens 

 

[placeholder]

15 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Yeah right!

 

Tell this to the families killed by illegal aliens.

 

Noticed your link isn’t from Madcow, Overbite or AC/DC, Whoopy or Joyce.

 

You’ll never hear them speak of crime by illegal aliens.  Doesn’t fit their agenda.

 

 

What are you planning to say to the families of the proportionately more numerous Americans killed by the native born? You've still got nothing.

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

What are you planning to say to the families of the proportionately more numerous Americans killed by the native born? You've still got nothing.

This is your thread about immigration hence my reference to illegal alien crime in which most would not of happened if Biden hadn’t opened the barn doors and let everyone in.

 

Lets go Brandon!

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

This is your thread about immigration hence my reference to illegal alien crime in which most would not of happened if Biden hadn’t opened the barn doors and let everyone in.

 

Lets go Brandon!

Nor would crimes by authorized aliens have occurred if Biden had barred them from entry. What's your point?

[placeholder]

Just now, G_Money said:

Another clueless foreigner!

Since you've got nothing substantive to answer with, you make it personal. You've still  got nothing.

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Nor would crimes by authorized aliens have occurred if Biden had barred them from entry. What's your point?

Illegal aliens don’t have the right to be in country.  The murders and crimes would not of happened.

 

I’ve explained it to you but can’t comprehend it for you.  If you can’t figure this out you’re part of the problem, not the solution.

[G_Money]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Since you've got nothing substantive to answer with, you make it personal. You've still  got nothing.

I’ve got plenty and have posted directly to you.  You turn head away because you can’t accept the facts.

 

Sad but true.

 

 

Edited February 29 by G_Money

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Illegal aliens don’t have the right to be in country.  The murders and crimes would not of happened.

 

I’ve explained it to you but can’t comprehend it for you.  If you can’t figure this out you’re part of the problem, not the solution.

And would the murders have happened from authorized aliens if no aliens were authorized to be in the country?

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

I’ve got plenty and have posted directly to you.  You turn head away because you can’t accept the facts.

So far you've posted only irrelevancies and personal comments. I have no idea what you mean by me turning my head away. Certainly not from the stuff you've posted here.

[Mike Lister]

 Post removed, keep it civil.

[G_Money]

Just now, placeholder said:

And would the murders have happened from authorized aliens if no aliens were authorized to be in the country?

Put your crystal ball and stats sheets away and focus on the crime by illegal aliens that has actually happened.

 

I know it’s hard for you without trying to change the subject, but try.

[placeholder]

Just now, G_Money said:

Put your crystal ball and stats sheets away and focus on the crime by illegal aliens that has actually happened.

 

I know it’s hard for you without trying to change the subject, but try.

Why focus only on their crimes? What about the crimes by authorized aliens that have actually happened?

[Bday Prang]

              if all these illegal immigrants are so industrious and hardworking, why are their own original countries so economically deprived?   Why are such valuable assets able to leave their home countries so easily in the first place ?   

               Cut the benefits of the lazy indigenous population and force the workshy back into employment.  No more immigration would be  required, in fact we could start sending them all back.  It's not rocket science

 

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

              if all these illegal immigrants are so industrious and hardworking, why are their own original countries so economically deprived?   Why are such valuable assets able to leave their home countries so easily in the first place ?   

               Cut the benefits of the lazy indigenous population and force the workshy back into employment.  No more immigration would be  required, in fact we could start sending them all back.  It's not rocket science

 

One has to be remarkably ignorant of history to to blame immigrants on the poor economic conditions of their country of birth. America is a nation of immigrants who mostly went there because the economies of their country was in poor shape. Are you claiming that these immigrants ruined the American economy?