The economy is roaring. Immigration is a key reason.

[heybruce]

18 hours ago, G_Money said:

The vast majority of agricultural workers get H2A visas to work legally.

 

Most illegal aliens are not picking lettuce.  And why would they when Democrats/liberals give them everything they need on a silver platter.

What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter?

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

No.  But I lived in a small town in central California, Porterville, and it is a farming community.  Immigration does not have a presence there.  Farming has a had pass for generations by US Immigration.  This does not mean the entire nations should be flooded with migrants.  Not all Farm workers all illegal or “undocumented”.  Many are on on guest worker visa’s. 

Crack down on the people hiring the illegal immigrants and you will eliminate the draw for the economic migrants.  It's that simple.

 

That won't happen because the farmers and small business owners who hire illegal immigrants generally vote Republican.  The

Republicans love scapegoating immigrants as the source of all the country's ills, but won't do anything realistic to prevent illegal immigration.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

And would the murders have happened from authorized aliens if no aliens were authorized to be in the country?

You so far down the hole I can’t help you.

[placeholder]

Just now, G_Money said:

You so far down the hole I can’t help you.

Another comment empty of reason or evidence.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Since you've got nothing substantive to answer with, you make it personal. You've still  got nothing.

Not personal!  He fits the description of both.  Clueless and foreign.  Facts

[G_Money]

38 minutes ago, placeholder said:

One has to be remarkably ignorant of history to to blame immigrants on the poor economic conditions of their country of birth. America is a nation of immigrants who mostly went there because the economies of their country was in poor shape. Are you claiming that these immigrants ruined the American economy?

Yes, America is/was a land of legal immigration such as my father/grandfather and relatives who came in the front door at Ellis Island.

 

No handouts given.  Had to start working the mines of Scranton, PA ( didn’t Biden work the mine too?) before moving on to better jobs. No handouts, no free medical, no free hotels and food, no debit cards.

 

Not the same as today’s illegal crossing the southern border.  If you can’t figure that out, you’re hopeless.

[BigStar]

On 2/28/2024 at 11:45 AM, placeholder said:

Immigration has propelled the U.S. job market further than just about anyone expected, helping cement the country’s economic rebound from the pandemic as the most robust in the world.

 

LOL. Washington Post, the propaganda mouthpiece for the Democratic party. Awfully worried now about Biden losing and they know immigration's a big reason he will. You poor boobs.

 

What's really going on?

 

Bidenflation higher than ever, clocking in at 17.3% -TIPP

 

5 Ugly Details the Biden Admin Won’t Tell You About the December Jobs Report

 

Sen. Rick Scott: Jobs Reports Show Why Americans Can’t Trust Anything Biden Says on the Economy

 

Biden’s Low Marks on the Economy Reflect Reality

 

FACT CHECK: Setting the Record Straight on Bidenomics

Edited February 29 by BigStar

[G_Money]

38 minutes ago, heybruce said:

What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter?

 Don’t be lazy.  It’s all over the news.  Of course probably not the news you want.

[G_Money]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Another comment empty of reason or evidence.

The truth truly hurts, doesn’t it!

[Bday Prang]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

One has to be remarkably ignorant of history to to blame immigrants on the poor economic conditions of their country of birth. America is a nation of immigrants who mostly went there because the economies of their country was in poor shape. Are you claiming that these immigrants ruined the American economy?

                    No i am claiming that there are too many already and no more should be allowed to enter until the indigenous population is fully employed. Then any extras that are required should only be allowed in when they have successfully applied for a job in their own country and have all the paper work in order, it also should be ascertained that their presence will not be a burden on the infrastructure , ie schools, hospitals  etc etc.  When they are no longer required they should  leave.

                     I struggle to see what real benefits an army of fast food delivery men, or drug dealing gang members bring to any society,  especially a society that has many indigenous citizens perfectly qualified and or experienced enough to undertake such activities themselves.

                     Nobody should be allowed to enter and embark on a welfare funded existence.  

                      If these immigrants are not required, then move them on,  I am sure there are plenty of places, often much closer to their original countries where they are, actually , really  needed.   Although if they went to those places they would actually have to do some work, and could not enjoy the easy life on welfare benefits which they are seeking.

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, G_Money said:

The truth truly hurts, doesn’t it!

Now you're a mind reader, too? 

[BigStar]

47 minutes ago, heybruce said:

That won't happen because the farmers and small business owners who hire illegal immigrants generally vote Republican

 

No, the gov't, local, city, state, Fed are paying billions now in welfare. Eric Adams even broached the idea of ending sanctuary status! WOT???

 

The point of all these undocumented Democratic voters is to ensure the dominance and power of The Party. Millions swelling the census rolls in Blue districts, meaning more representatives, a dependent class grateful to The Party, soon to be granted voting rights by The Party, and replacing all Republican majorities.

[G_Money]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Now you're a mind reader, too? 

You’re as easy to read as Mr CIA!

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

                    No i am claiming that there are too many already and no more should be allowed to enter until the indigenous population is fully employed. Then any extras that are required should only be allowed in when they have successfully applied for a job in their own country and have all the paper work in order, it also should be ascertained that their presence will not be a burden on the infrastructure , ie schools, hospitals  etc etc.  When they are no longer required they should  leave.

                     I struggle to see what real benefits an army of fast food delivery men, or drug dealing gang members bring to any society,  especially a society that has many indigenous citizens perfectly qualified and or experienced enough to undertake such activities themselves.

                     Nobody should be allowed to enter and embark on a welfare funded existence.  

                      If these immigrants are not required, then move them on,  I am sure there are plenty of places, often much closer to their original countries where they are, actually , really  needed.   Although if they went to those places they would actually have to do some work, and could not enjoy the easy life on welfare benefits which they are seeking.

First off, you're denying what you claimed earlier which was this:

"if all these illegal immigrants are so industrious and hardworking, why are their own original countries so economically deprived?   Why are such valuable assets able to leave their home countries so easily in the first place ?"

So trying owning up to your falsehood instead of denying it.

 

You may not see much value in what fast food delivery men offer society, but what about the people who plant and harvest America's produce, tend America's dairies, and staff its meat processing plants. And as for fast food delivery, delivery service has become crucial to large segments of the American restaurant industry which contributes close to 1 trillion dollars to American GDP. As for drug dealers, given the demand and economic opportunity, basic laws of supply and demand tell us there will no shortage of salespeople whether native or foreign born.

 

Right. All those people working in jobs native born Americans won't do, are in the US to try and get on welfare.

 

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

You’re as easy to read as Mr CIA!

More empty nonsense from you.

[sqwakvfr]

56 minutes ago, heybruce said:

What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter?

California will welcome the new year by becoming the first state to offer health insurance for all undocumented immigrants.

Starting Jan. 1, all undocumented immigrants, regardless of age, will qualify for Medi-Cal, California's version of the federal Medicaid program for people with low incomes.

Previously, undocumented immigrants were not qualified to receive comprehensive health insurance but were allowed to receive emergency and pregnancy-related services under Medi-Cal as long as they met eligibility requirements, including income limits and California residency in 2014.

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

No, the gov't, local, city, state, Fed are paying billions now in welfare. Eric Adams even broached the idea of ending sanctuary status! WOT???

 

The point of all these undocumented Democratic voters is to ensure the dominance and power of The Party. Millions swelling the census rolls in Blue districts, meaning more representatives, a dependent class grateful to The Party, soon to be granted voting rights by The Party, and replacing all Republican majorities.

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too? Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing?

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

More empty nonsense from you.

You responded  didn’t you?  Could not of been that empty.

[BigStar]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too?

 

Do you agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was stolen from her?

 

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing?

 

Complex Question fallacy. Unable to think logically of course. Common sense is just so hard to argue with, which is why Biden is losing, despite the vast resources of the State, media, tech, military-industrial complex propagandizing, censoring, and running interference.

Edited February 29 by BigStar

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too? Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing?

There you go again.  Changing the subject when cornered.

 

Why not start a new thread about the election.

[placeholder]

Just now, G_Money said:

You responded  didn’t you?  Could not of been that empty.

You mean pointing out its emptiness means it's not empty? You got any actual reasoning to back that assertion up?

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, BigStar said:

 

Do you agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was stolen from her?

 

 

Complex Question fallacy. Unable to think logically of course.

Maybe in an alternative universe Hillary claimed that she actually won the electoral vote and that a conspiracy by government officials denied her her rightful victory. Not so much in this one. You've got nothing.

 

[NorthernRyland]

If America imports the entire population of India think of how much GDP that would produce! I can't think of a single reason why this wouldn't be a great idea. 💩

[Bday Prang]

So what all these b/s statistics  by all these  b/s institutes are trying to have us believe is that  all these illegals, intending or attempting to relocate are nothing other than an international emergency volunteer squad, currently on standby, just waiting to be told where their economy saving  skills are needed next.  Their only purpose in life being  to save the developed world from economic disaster, and such is their dedication to their cause, that even muslims are willing to put their inherent dislike of the west on hold , in order to  assist in the saving of our economies. despite the ever present threat of islamophobia   We should all be eternally grateful that they still agree  to come . and  wouldn't it be just terrible if they all decided to pack up and go home

[placeholder]

Just now, NorthernRyland said:

If America imports the entire population of India think of how much GDP that would produce! I can't think of a single reason why this wouldn't be a great idea. 💩

Well, while it's touching in a way for you to confess to your own mental incapacity, I don't know why you're sharing it with us here. Are you looking for some kind of remediation?

[G_Money]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You mean pointing out its emptiness means it's not empty? You got any actual reasoning to back that assertion up?

Unlike you I don’t need a “stat sheet” to point out common sense.

 

I know scientists have a hard time grasping that concept.

Edited February 29 by G_Money

[BigStar]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Maybe in an alternative universe Hillary claimed that she actually won the electoral vote and that a conspiracy by government officials denied her her rightful victory. Not so much in this one. You've got nothing.

 

 

Oh, so you DO still believe it. LOL.

 

From your own fave source. Stolen's stolen. 🙂 

 

Hillary Clinton says the 2016 election was ‘stolen’ from her

 

Do you still believe all these, too?

 

Stolen, rigged and illegitimate: Democrats’ long history of objecting to election results

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

So what all these b/s statistics  by all these  b/s institutes are trying to have us believe is that  all these illegals, intending or attempting to relocate are nothing other than an international emergency volunteer squad, currently on standby, just waiting to be told where their economy saving  skills are needed next.  Their only purpose in life being  to save the developed world from economic disaster, and such is their dedication to their cause, that even muslims are willing to put their inherent dislike of the west on hold , in order to  assist in the saving of our economies. despite the ever present threat of islamophobia   We should all be eternally grateful that they still agree  to come . and  wouldn't it be just terrible if they all decided to pack up and go home

Clearly, your comments betray no understanding of the the economic laws of supply and demand. 

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Unlike you I don’t need a “stat sheet” to point out common sense.

 

I know scientists have a hard time grasping that concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Oh, so you DO still believe it. LOL.

 

From your own fave source. Stolen's stolen. 🙂 

 

Hillary Clinton says the 2016 election was ‘stolen’ from her

 

Do you still believe all these, too?

 

Stolen, rigged and illegitimate: Democrats’ long history of objecting to election results

a sound clip that lasts a few seconds is your idea of good evidence. It is to laugh.

As for the rest, neither Clinton or Abrams claimed actual conspiratorial election fraud.