Safest country during WWIII?

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

If I could get some tangible proof on the 72 virgins thing I'd swap over to muzzy faith in a heart beat.

Nah. For me 72 virgins sounds like the most boring activity possible. I want experience, I want real women. Give me five real women with experience over 72 virgins any day of the week. To me that's just a hyped up bit of ridiculousness, meant to appeal to men with a sense of fake purity, and total confusion about life. 

[Doctor Tom]

There isn't one for next time.  The difference for the next one is nuclear fallout and the Earths natural wind patterns. There is no escape the next time. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YrxRsi8BqE

 

[Will B Good]

Thailand I imagine....they seem more than happy to take both sides at once.

[bradiston]

On 3/5/2024 at 9:58 AM, pub2022 said:

 

In your list of madmen you forgot Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak.

 

And how many of them would you say might launch a nuclear attack?

[newnative]

On 3/5/2024 at 9:36 AM, cdemundo said:

While listing madmen...

There is a story that when Trump was prez he asked an adviser "If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them".

Apparently asked 3 times from the media reports.

 

Seems to have been repeated often if you google "Did Trump ask 'If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them' " but all the references seem to be from the same source. So who knows?

Even still...

Even still, why are way too many supporting this madman?

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

There is a way to avoid the nuclear war for a nation capable of genetically developing a lethal ' supervirus ' , like corona ...

 

 

 

thats why we need to nuke the chines first !

[Doctor Tom]

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Thailand I imagine....they seem more than happy to take both sides at once.

They take all three sides, even when there are only two options.  It's a National gift, just ask my G/F 

[Paris333]

In agenda of the W.E.F Great Reset it has been agreed by superpowers that in Ukraine region the Russia will take the land parts of the eastern Dnieper River and America the western Dnieper.
Both countries Russia Federation and United States of America have agreed after the end of the war not to let Ukraine drill for hydrocarbons.
Ukraine and Greece are competing countries in hydrocarbons with Russia and America in hydrocarbon deposits,
while neutral Switzerland exports arms to 57 countries around the world. 
Exports of military equipment fell 27% to 696.8 million Swiss francs ($788.06 million), the State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (SECO) said, down from 955 million francs in 2022.
In 2023, Switzerland exported military hardware to 58 countries, up from 60 a year earlier, with Germany the biggest customer followed by Denmark, signing large orders for ammunition and wheeled armoured vehicles.

Source:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/swiss-weapons-exports-plunge-neutral-stance-hurts-trade-2024-03-05/

Global military expenditure hit record levels last year, with governments shelling out nearly $2 trillion (CHF1.8 trillion). Switzerland was the 14th biggest exporter of weapons, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

Source:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/switzerland-contributes-to-global-arms-trade-boom/46565762

[Hummin]

On 3/5/2024 at 3:41 AM, KhunLA said:

That didn't take long ... Trump seems to arrive in every thread 

 

Even the measles in FL thread, and the "American Man Found with Bullet Arrested at Phuket Airport"  thread  

When naming mad men, cant leave Trump out 🫡

[Old Croc]

22 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

It will not be as bad as that or in the movies - if I recall that panel discussion I saw a while back, the smoke/haze will clear within a year or two (depending on how many bombs dropped). Growing plants under lights is very achievable - power and water would be problematic.

Opinions and guesswork. Let's hope it doesn't become necessary to find out.

[Grumpy one]

On 3/6/2024 at 9:01 AM, Ralf001 said:

They all pink on the inside.

I shall have to take your word on that.

To be honest, I have never thought about looking inside any animals vagina.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

48 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Opinions and guesswork. Let's hope it doesn't become necessary to find out.

Absolutely all bestguesswork - and I do not want to know either.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

21 hours ago, bradiston said:

And how many of them would you say might launch a nuclear attack?

Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak - all of them.

[JGon]

On 3/5/2024 at 10:51 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Sorry to be going against the grain (not) but all this BS about nuclear fallout from atomic bombs is like the climate crisis - scares children and is greatly exaggerated.  But dont tell anyone - Hollywood and all the other media BS will be annoyed.

 

 

And in answer to the question, given Neil is correct and a nuclear WW3 is survivable by those not in/near the blasts, I would look for a location where you can grow/make all your own food and necessities, and where you can either barracade or hide yourself against all the roaming mobs/gangs that will take everything you have and/or kill you. Remote places away from all other modern people (who are toitally dependent on civilisation to give them everything), where the natives will leave you alone if you leave them alone and/or add some value to them - Papua New Guinea? - Remote Outback Australia?  Or an underground bunker with decades of food and water and all the other necessities - but me thinks no one here will be allowed inside 🙂  Maybe all those preppers will finally be happy - until the starving mob arrives and takes everything. 

 

 

Listen to what he said... fission bombs... what kind of Nuclear weapons do you think Pakistan, India, North Korea, even China has? Do you think they have the Massive (ultra expensive and complicated ) hydrogen thermonuclear weapons or the easier to produce/cheaper "fission" nuclear weapons. Either way even the fusion "Hydrogen" bombs start off with a "fission" nuclear explosion who then triggers a chain reaction with the other elements inside the bomb. There is still radiation, just check with the residents of Bikini atoll after the 15 MT (MT as in Megatons or 15,000 tons of TNT) "Castle Bravo" thermonuclear explosion test. 

 

But... it's all about the yield. It's what really matters... the total world arseal of around 15,000 warheads has a Yield of around 1,460 MT... In 1815 Mount Tambora in Indonesia erupted with a force of 800 MT... ejecting 100 KM3 of material into the atmosphere. 1816 was known as the year without summer. The questions is would almost double that amount of energy be enough to release enough particulates into the stratosphere to create the so called "nuclear winter"... maybe. One thing is sure... the total world arseal can't compared to a SuperVolcano like Lake Toba in Indonesia or Yellowstone in the US. There's a SuperVolcano in New Zealand lol

 

The more you know...

[TroubleandGrumpy]

45 minutes ago, JGon said:

 

Listen to what he said... fission bombs... what kind of Nuclear weapons do you think Pakistan, India, North Korea, even China has? Do you think they have the Massive (ultra expensive and complicated ) hydrogen thermonuclear weapons or the easier to produce/cheaper "fission" nuclear weapons. Either way even the fusion "Hydrogen" bombs start off with a "fission" nuclear explosion who then triggers a chain reaction with the other elements inside the bomb. There is still radiation, just check with the residents of Bikini atoll after the 15 MT (MT as in Megatons or 15,000 tons of TNT) "Castle Bravo" thermonuclear explosion test. 

 

But... it's all about the yield. It's what really matters... the total world arseal of around 15,000 warheads has a Yield of around 1,460 MT... In 1815 Mount Tambora in Indonesia erupted with a force of 800 MT... ejecting 100 KM3 of material into the atmosphere. 1816 was known as the year without summer. The questions is would almost double that amount of energy be enough to release enough particulates into the stratosphere to create the so called "nuclear winter"... maybe. One thing is sure... the total world arseal can't compared to a SuperVolcano like Lake Toba in Indonesia or Yellowstone in the US. There's a SuperVolcano in New Zealand lol

 

The more you know...

Good points - but those 3rd world countries dont have that many 'bad' nuclear weapons and if WW3 started they would be the first ones destroyed in the ground.  However, you are right in that if it happens, WW3 will cause a 'nuclear winter' and as such for longer than 1815 - but claims of decades long winter is exaggeration. Claims that billions of people and many more animals and plantslife would die are not - we can only hope it does not happen.

 

Meanwile, something far more dangerous gets very little attention - Supervolcanos like Yellowstone as you mentioned. The last supervolcano eruption was 27,000 years ago (New Zealand) and although scientists are confident there will not be another one for a few thousand years - there is absolutely no guarantee the next one will not be sooner.  And quite frankly if there was indications that one was coming soon, I am sure they would shut down that information to 'protect everyone'.  2012 was a BS movie, as was several related global disaster movies, but they all got that part right - those in power will keep it quiet as long as possible and look after themselves first.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/5/2024 at 4:43 PM, spidermike007 said:

Well you definitely revealed which side of the aisle you're on, with an inane reply like that. 

 

Some of us are trying to keep this forum sane and rational. 

Some of us are trying to keep this forum sane and rational. 

 

I gave your post a laugh emoji for that. Whenever you mention Trump apparently TDS takes over your typing hands.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

When naming mad men, cant leave Trump out 🫡

It amuses me that those with TDS think he is the only madman in US presidential politics.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Paris333 said:

In agenda of the W.E.F Great Reset it has been agreed by superpowers that in Ukraine region the Russia will take the land parts of the eastern Dnieper River and America the western Dnieper.
Both countries Russia Federation and United States of America have agreed after the end of the war not to let Ukraine drill for hydrocarbons.
Ukraine and Greece are competing countries in hydrocarbons with Russia and America in hydrocarbon deposits,
while neutral Switzerland exports arms to 57 countries around the world. 
Exports of military equipment fell 27% to 696.8 million Swiss francs ($788.06 million), the State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (SECO) said, down from 955 million francs in 2022.
In 2023, Switzerland exported military hardware to 58 countries, up from 60 a year earlier, with Germany the biggest customer followed by Denmark, signing large orders for ammunition and wheeled armoured vehicles.

Source:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/swiss-weapons-exports-plunge-neutral-stance-hurts-trade-2024-03-05/

Global military expenditure hit record levels last year, with governments shelling out nearly $2 trillion (CHF1.8 trillion). Switzerland was the 14th biggest exporter of weapons, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

Source:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/switzerland-contributes-to-global-arms-trade-boom/46565762

There is more money in death than life, war than peace.

Follow the money.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, JGon said:

1816 was known as the year without summer.

but apparently the sunsets were wonderful. I'd be lovin' it.

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Some of us are trying to keep this forum sane and rational. 

 

I gave your post a laugh emoji for that. Whenever you mention Trump apparently TDS takes over your typing hands.

oh yes, TDS works both ways. Trump deceives his supporters.

[Hummin]

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It amuses me that those with TDS think he is the only madman in US presidential politics.

About 100% of to voters who cant manage to choose anyone else than the two options at the moment

[thaibeachlovers]

23 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

oh yes, TDS works both ways. Trump deceives his supporters.

He doesn't deceive me. I just dislike his opponent more than I dislike him. Same went for her. I'd have voted for Bernie, both times, except the Dems backstabbed him, twice.

[bradiston]

3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak - all of them.

 

Despite 3 of them not having any nuclear weapons?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

29 minutes ago, bradiston said:

 

Despite 3 of them not having any nuclear weapons?

The point being they have the mentality to do it. 

[JGon]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Good points - but those 3rd world countries dont have that many 'bad' nuclear weapons and if WW3 started they would be the first ones destroyed in the ground.  However, you are right in that if it happens, WW3 will cause a 'nuclear winter' and as such for longer than 1815 - but claims of decades long winter is exaggeration. Claims that billions of people and many more animals and plantslife would die are not - we can only hope it does not happen.

 

Meanwile, something far more dangerous gets very little attention - Supervolcanos like Yellowstone as you mentioned. The last supervolcano eruption was 27,000 years ago (New Zealand) and although scientists are confident there will not be another one for a few thousand years - there is absolutely no guarantee the next one will not be sooner.  And quite frankly if there was indications that one was coming soon, I am sure they would shut down that information to 'protect everyone'.  2012 was a BS movie, as was several related global disaster movies, but they all got that part right - those in power will keep it quiet as long as possible and look after themselves first.

 

I agree as well that the "nuclear winter" if triggered... it will only last a few years (Not decades) based on the amount of energy of the entire World's nuclear arsenal yields. Is a good thing we abandoned the Tsar Bomba idea... there are things that are definitely overkill.

 

As for Supervolcanoes genetic studies of humans traced our lineage to a few thousand humans around 74,000 years ago. Something cataclysmic happened during that time that we almost went extinct. That something happens to be the Toba supervolcano just a few hundred miles south of  Phuket (and yes the caldera is almost as big as that red circle).    

[Photoguy21]

The one you are currently in

[The Old Bull]

On 3/6/2024 at 7:37 AM, Ralf001 said:

 

If I could get some tangible proof on the 72 virgins thing I'd swap over to muzzy faith in a heart beat.

What, and give up beer and bacon?

[steven100]

my 7-11

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The point being they have the mentality to do it. 

What gives you that impression? Sunak? Huh? Leyden? Seriously? Seems like you have the mentality, not them. Pure projection. They wouldn't even send troops or air cover to Ukraine let alone nuclear weapons. Never called Nukin's bluff. Now he's rehearsed for a full on European invasion.

[johng]

12 minutes ago, bradiston said:

They wouldn't even send troops or air cover to Ukraine let alone nuclear weapons.

You realise that if they sent troops that would mean a declaration of war against Russia and hence WWIII ?

Russia has said it reserves the right to use nukes if it's territory is threatened ( same as all other nuclear bomb wielding nations)