4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

Hamas accepts -

Israel rejects. Orders Palestinians to leave eastern Rafah & then proceeds to bomb western Rafah -

Bombing Rafah was the US “redline” -

US blames Hamas

 

 

 

 

 

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

Hamas accepts -

 

Wrong, try reading:

 

"The last deal that was described by United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged Hamas to swiftly accept Israel's latest and “extraordinarily generous offer” was, then turned down by Hamas.

Hamas then accepted a deal put forward by Egypt and Qatar"

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

Hamas accepts -

 

Wrong, try reading:

 

"The last deal that was described by United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged Hamas to swiftly accept Israel's latest and “extraordinarily generous offer” was, then turned down by Hamas.

Hamas then accepted a deal put forward by Egypt and Qatar"

Yeah, the 'generous' deal that would see 33 Israeli hostages, either DEAD OR ALIVE, returned. And Hamas gets 30 live prisoners freed for EACH hostage/body returned.

Generous.

Another propaganda video published by Hamas and more sickening vile lies.

 

Hamas claims Israeli hostage killed in IDF strike in new propaganda video

Hamas spokesperson Abu Obaida claimed on Telegram that Israeli-US-Canadian citizen Judy Weinstein, 70, and another unnamed hostage held in Gaza succumbed to their wounds as a result of Israeli bombardment. 

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-800313

 

The truth however is that Judith was confirmed murdered on 7/10 and her body taken to Gaza. That was known back in December.

 

Here's the article on it. 

Israeli-American Judith Weinstein confirmed murdered on Oct. 7, body held in Gaza

https://www.timesofisrael.com/american-israeli-judith-weinstein-confirmed-murdered-on-oct-7-body-held-in-gaza/

 

 

More Hamas command centers found in UN facilities.

 

IDF strikes Hamas command center inside UNRWA HQ in central Gaza

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the Shin Bet security agency announced on Sunday that it had conducted a strike on the command and control center belonging to the Hamas terrorist organization located within the UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees) compound in the central region of the Gaza Strip.

The targeted headquarters facilitated the transfer of weapons and supplies to Hamas operatives, including through underground tunnels. 

The IDF spokesperson emphasized that Hamas consistently exploits international institutions and civilian populations as human shields for its terrorist activities against Israel.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-idf-raids-hamas-command-center-inside-unrwa-hq-in-central-gaza

33 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

Hamas accepts -

 

Wrong, try reading:

 

"The last deal that was described by United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged Hamas to swiftly accept Israel's latest and “extraordinarily generous offer” was, then turned down by Hamas.

Hamas then accepted a deal put forward by Egypt and Qatar"

Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/white-house-israel-hamas-positions-allow-hostage-deal

Someone is telling porkies

In case you have forgotten why this war is being fought: here is a reminder. This teenage girl was gang raped by Hamas, then kidnapped. Note the bloodstains on the back of her trousers, which indicate the violence of her assault.

 

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/white-house-israel-hamas-positions-allow-hostage-deal

Someone is telling porkies

And? So where are we now, currently no deal, the deal Hamas accepted is delusional.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

And? So where are we now, currently no deal, the deal Hamas accepted is delusional.

Anyone that thinks the deal was put together with only Egypt, Hamas  and Qatar involved ,  ignoring the fact that the CIA director was in Doha at the time and was completely unaware of any discussions   and all the CIA listening stations were turned off  is  delusional

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

Anyone that thinks the deal was put together with only Egypt, Hamas  and Qatar involved ,  ignoring the fact that the CIA director was in Doha at the time and was completely unaware of any discussions   and all the CIA listening stations were turned off  is  delusional

You can think what you want. Allegations are two a penny. Evidence or the US stating this is nowhere.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You can think what you want. Allegations are two a penny. Evidence or the US stating this is nowhere.

Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/white-house-israel-hamas-positions-allow-hostage-deal

So are the Israeli's officials lying or are the American diplomats lying

18 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/white-house-israel-hamas-positions-allow-hostage-deal

You posted that once already, I read it when you posted it and responded, it has not changed or been updated. Even John Kirby stated the deal in place was for 6 week ceasefire, the new deal Hamas accepted is not, it is for a permanent end to the war. My response remains the same>

 

23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You can think what you want. Allegations are two a penny. Evidence or the US stating this is nowhere.

 

8 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/white-house-israel-hamas-positions-allow-hostage-deal

So are the Israeli's officials lying or are the American diplomats lying

 

They're both probably lying, neither of them have an ounce of humanity, Israel will just carry out whatever they want with their No 1 supporter and no amount of international condemnation will stop them, as has been clearly shown for weeks.

While I'm more than disgusted at the reactions on here by pro-Israeli's it matters not a jot to them that whatever is said about all the death and destruction it is all justifiable due to 7/10, humanity doesn't matter.

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

They're both probably lying, neither of them have an ounce of humanity, Israel will just carry out whatever they want with their No 1 supporter and no amount of international condemnation will stop them, as has been clearly shown for weeks.

While I'm more than disgusted at the reactions on here by pro-Israeli's it matters not a jot to them that whatever is said about all the death and destruction it is all justifiable due to 7/10, humanity doesn't matter.

While I'm more than disgusted at the reactions on here by pro-Israeli's it matters not a jot to them that whatever is said about all the death and destruction it is all justifiable due to 7/10, humanity doesn't matter.

 

It matters a lot, Hamas are responsible for all of it with their deliberate strategy to use their own civilians as human shields. Hamas planned it this way. 

 

My disgust is more at those who think being pro Israeli means you don't care. 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

While I'm more than disgusted at the reactions on here by pro-Israeli's it matters not a jot to them that whatever is said about all the death and destruction it is all justifiable due to 7/10, humanity doesn't matter.

 

It matters a lot, Hamas are responsible for all of it with their deliberate strategy to use their own civilians as human shields. Hamas planned it this way. 

 

My disgust is more at those who think being pro Israeli means you don't care. 

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do nothing but post Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

Cry crocodile tears all you want, even though the majority of Israeli's think and treat Palestinians/Arabs as less than human and have done for years.

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do nothing but post Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

Cry crocodile tears all you want, even though the majority of Israeli's think and treat Palestinians/Arabs as less than human and have done for years.

Why did you want to make it personal all the time with spit the dummy out rants like that which have no basis in reality. 

 

 

Et tu, Tories?

Israeli offensive on Rafah would break international law, UK minister says

Andrew Mitchell says military action on city will not eradicate Hamas and priority is to secure a permanent ceasefire

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/israeli-offensive-on-rafah-would-break-international-law-uk-minister-says

Topic on that here

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1326685-tensions-as-idf-orders-evacuation-of-parts-of-rafah-amidst-threat-of-ground-invasion/

 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why did you want to make it personal all the time with spit the dummy out rants like that which have no basis in reality. 

 

 

 

So you think that's personnel and a rant, but don't question any of the facts stated, proper propaganda.

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

So you think that's personnel and a rant, but don't question any of the facts stated, proper propaganda.

No, because you started of with personals slurs here.

 

57 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

While I'm more than disgusted at the reactions on here by pro-Israeli's it matters not a jot to them that whatever is said about all the death and destruction it is all justifiable due to 7/10, humanity doesn't matter.

Its quite obvious there are no daily updates here you want to talk about but just looking for a bickering session

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No, because you started of with personals slurs here.

 

Its quite obvious there are no daily updates here you want to talk about but just looking for a bickering session

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

What Israeli propaganda are you referring to? Can you link to a recent report that is specific to it?

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

What Israeli propaganda are you referring to? Can you link to a recent report that is specific to it?

 

Anything that comes from Israel media, is propaganda as it isn't verifiable by international media.

7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

It is a warzone and Israel cannot guarantee the safety of any reporters, and also reporters wandering about near Israeli troops could compromise their positions!

 

"Israel’s military can continue barring foreign journalists from accessing the Gaza Strip, the High Court said Monday, citing ongoing security concerns after months in which only Gazans or correspondents accompanied by the army have been able to report from inside the enclave."

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/high-court-says-israel-can-keep-barring-foreign-reporters-from-gaza/

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Anything that comes from Israel media, is propaganda as it isn't verifiable by international media.

Just making things up now.

 

Here's a fresh report:

 

CIA chief due in Israel Wednesday for talks with Netanyahu, other top officials

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-08-2024/

 

 

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Anything that comes from Israel media, is propaganda as it isn't verifiable by international media.

But everything that comes from the terrorists is gospel! 😂😂😂

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

 

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

 

Offered by Israel which Hamas rejected 

 

 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Hamas accepts -Israel rejects. Orders Palestinians to leave eastern Rafah & then proceeds to bomb western Rafah -

 

 

A different deal NOT offered by Israel , a deal offered by Egypt which meant a complete surrender by Israel 

 

 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Bombing Rafah was the US “redline” -

US blames Hamas

 

 

 

 

 

 

   You are being extremely dishonest there .

Hamas didn't accept the Israeli terms for a ceasefire

Those terms were rejected by Hamas .

You've cut and pasted two different stories .

 

 

36 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

 

   What lies have the Israeli media told ?

 

The US paused a shipment of bombs to Israel over worries about Israel nearing a decision to launch a wide-ranging military offensive on the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which President Joe Biden opposes, according to a senior administration official. Bloomberg News' Paul Wallace discusses with Joumanna Bercetche on on Horizons Daybreak: Middle East & Africa.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The US paused a shipment of bombs to Israel over worries about Israel nearing a decision to launch a wide-ranging military offensive on the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which President Joe Biden opposes, according to a senior administration official. Bloomberg News' Paul Wallace discusses with Joumanna Bercetche on on Horizons Daybreak: Middle East & Africa.

 

 

That's been in Israeli media for quite some time

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-confirms-holding-up-sale-of-heavy-bombs-it-feared-israel-would-use-in-rafah/

 

Its also in the other topic

2 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

 

   Here is a lie by USA media . 

The only ceasefire agreed to by Hamas was the ceasefire proposed by Hamas  , which was so one sided that there was no way Israel would even consider it .