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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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Eight Israeli soldiers have been killed in a blast that engulfed their armoured vehicle in southern Gaza, in the biggest loss of life for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a single incident since January.

The deaths came amid continuing fighting around Rafah in which at least 19 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes.

According to the IDF, the squad of combat engineers were in a convoy of half a dozen armoured vehicles returning from a mission at about 5am on Saturday morning in the Tal al-Sultan area of the southern Gaza city when their vehicle was destroyed.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/15/israeli-soldiers-killed-in-southern-gaza-military-says

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  • thaibeachlovers
    thaibeachlovers

    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Eight Israeli soldiers have been killed in a blast that engulfed their armoured vehicle in southern Gaza, in the biggest loss of life for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a single incident since January.

The deaths came amid continuing fighting around Rafah in which at least 19 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes.

According to the IDF, the squad of combat engineers were in a convoy of half a dozen armoured vehicles returning from a mission at about 5am on Saturday morning in the Tal al-Sultan area of the southern Gaza city when their vehicle was destroyed.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/15/israeli-soldiers-killed-in-southern-gaza-military-says

I'm only surprised it took Hamas so long to start using IEDs. IMO favourite weapon in Iraq after the main war ended, and far as I know uses unexploded bombs for the raw material.

Perhaps israeli bombs are more reliable to explode now, not providing explosives any more.

I'd have thought they would have brought in explosives through the tunnels before October 7, in preparation for the expected response.

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm only surprised it took Hamas so long to start using IEDs. IMO favourite weapon in Iraq after the main war ended, and far as I know uses unexploded bombs for the raw material.

Perhaps israeli bombs are more reliable to explode now, not providing explosives any more.

I'd have thought they would have brought in explosives through the tunnels before October 7, in preparation for the expected response.

You perk up as soon as you hear about IDF getting killed, but you missed that they actually had an excellent day, killed 50 of the Hamas terrorists, not enough mind you, as one their way home Hamas (according to them) fired off an RPG hitting their armoured vehicle killing 8.

 

RIP IDF 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c722r0p31x7o

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm only surprised it took Hamas so long to start using IEDs. IMO favourite weapon in Iraq after the main war ended, and far as I know uses unexploded bombs for the raw material.

Perhaps israeli bombs are more reliable to explode now, not providing explosives any more.

I'd have thought they would have brought in explosives through the tunnels before October 7, in preparation for the expected response.

Is that not a war crime? 

9 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Eight Israeli soldiers have been killed in a blast that engulfed their armoured vehicle in southern Gaza, in the biggest loss of life for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a single incident since January.

The deaths came amid continuing fighting around Rafah in which at least 19 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes.

According to the IDF, the squad of combat engineers were in a convoy of half a dozen armoured vehicles returning from a mission at about 5am on Saturday morning in the Tal al-Sultan area of the southern Gaza city when their vehicle was destroyed.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/15/israeli-soldiers-killed-in-southern-gaza-military-says

Rather incredible how they can kill so many Palestinians with so few casualties themselves. This is a reason, they are being charged with Genocide. 

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Rather incredible how they can kill so many Palestinians with so few casualties themselves. This is a reason, they are being charged with Genocide. 

You know they were not Hamas terrorists then? 

Is the burning/destruction of homes allowed in this war on Hamas?

 

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Israeli forces have burned and demolished dozens of homes in Rafah, in the south of the Gaza Strip, following an attack by Hamas fighters that killed eight Israeli soldiers, Al Jazeera’s correspondent reports.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/16/israels-war-on-gaza-live-israel-bombards-gaza-homes-after-soldiers-killed

Id the killing, raping, burning and taking hostage of innocent civilians allowed in Hamas' war? 

From his link: "Every day, a different platoon goes out to raid homes in the area," wrote one soldier. "The houses are destroyed, occupied. Now what is left is to thoroughly search them. Inside the couches. Behind the closets. Weapons, intel, [tunnel] shafts and rocket launchers. We found all of these. In the end, the house is burned, with everything in it.""

 

 

Just now, Neeranam said:

 

Lets not forget the children who are not only being starved and killed, but can't be educated. 

 

Since the war started, 625,000 children across #Gaza have been denied an education as schools have been forced to remain closed.

https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1801614695918358634

So, they are no longer being taught to hate and kill Jews and that Israel needs to be eradicated> 

35 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, they are no longer being taught to hate and kill Jews and that Israel needs to be eradicated> 

I believe it's called indoctrination.

While the IDF have their daily humanitarian pauses you can bet Hamas terrorists will carry on as normal.

 

The Israeli military on Sunday announced a “tactical pause” in its offensive in the southern Gaza Strip to allow the deliveries of increased quantities of humanitarian aid.

The army said the pause would begin in the Rafah area at 8 a.m. (0500 GMT, 1 a.m. eastern) and remain in effect until 7 p.m. (1600 GMT, noon eastern). It said the pauses would take place every day until further notice.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-un-humanitarian-8c111f2dcf783f8671e6dd6f19547b17

 

 

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18 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Collective punishment is apparently a crime against humanity, but israel has been doing so for decades, with immunity provided by the colluding power, America.

Very true, its not just Hamas sacrificing its own civilians.

 

Senior Palestinian official accuses Iran of ‘sacrificing the blood’ of those in Gaza

The Iranian regime also reportedly claimed that the Oct. 7 attack was intended, among other things, to avenge the [U.S.'s January 2020] killing of [IRGC Quds Force commander] Qassem Soleimani.”

In a statement carried by the official WAFA news agency, Abbas’s office said such comments are “clearly” aimed at sacrificing Palestinian blood and destroying Palestinian land.

These comments “will not lead to the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with east Jerusalem as its capital,” the office said.

“The Palestinian people have been fighting and struggling for a hundred years, and they do not need wars that do not serve their ambitions for freedom and independence and for the preservation of Jerusalem and its Islamic and Christian sanctities,” the P.A. stressed.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/senior-palestinian-official-accuses-iran-of-sacrificing-the-blood-of-people-oxy0wmrp

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Collective punishment is apparently a crime against humanity, but israel has been doing so for decades, with immunity provided by the colluding power, America.

 

   You are in favour of killing innocent civilians , you are in favour of war crimes and crimes against humanity 

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Collective punishment is apparently a crime against humanity, but israel has been doing so for decades, with immunity provided by the colluding power, America.

So before 7/10, Hamas/Gazans were 'not' firing rockets into Israel on a near daily basis, with the rockets supplied by..........?  🤔

5 minutes ago, transam said:

So before 7/10, Hamas/Gazans were 'not' firing rockets into Israel on a near daily basis, with the rockets supplied by..........?  🤔

How could they possibly be firing rockets from an open-air prison? 

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How could they possibly be firing rockets from an open-air prison? 

Eh.........? :unsure:

 

This video is by an Iranian ex Muslim to give you a perspective on what and why the war is happening 

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Eh.........? :unsure:

 

  He was making the point that Gaza cannot be an open air prison as they are firing rockets from Gaza

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  He was making the point that Gaza cannot be an open air prison as they are firing rockets from Gaza

That's what I thought, but what is the relevance regarding rockets we know come from Gaza on a regular basis to blow up something in Israel before 7/10...🤔

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Collective punishment is apparently a crime against humanity, but israel has been doing so for decades, with immunity provided by the colluding power, America.

 

More to the point Israeli government ignores UN and US policy decisions if contrary to their wishes = been going on for years e.g. Settlers in West Bank and administrative detention without trail. l

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

More to the point Israeli government ignores UN and US policy decisions if contrary to their wishes = been going on for years e.g. Settlers in West Bank and administrative detention without trail. l

Yet this topic is not about years ago, its about daily updates.

Some Israeli's know what they want, such a nice man, or is he, discuss?

 

Israel: Former MP invokes Hitler in call to expel Gaza's 'Islamo-Nazi' population
Moshe Feiglin in TV interview calls for resettlement of Gaza and expulsion of Palestinians.

In a panel discussion on Channel 12, Feiglin called for resettlement in Gaza and argued Israel should transform the Palestinian territory into a "Hebrew Gaza".

"We are not guests in our country, this is our country, all of it," he said in the video shared on Sunday in Israeli social media. 

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-former-knesset-member-moshe-feiglin-invokes-hitler-while-calling-gaza-resettlement

Hamas's Gaza leader, not ex. Lovely chap, discuss?

 

Hamas’s Sinwar said to laud high civilian death toll in Gaza as ‘necessary sacrifice’

Wall Street Journal report details messages to interlocutors in which Gazan terror chief exalts Palestinian deaths as helping increase pressure on Israel

Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar has insisted that civilian bloodshed in Gaza is a necessary sacrifice that will lead to the liberation of Palestine, according to a report published late Monday, bolstering accusations that the terror group has intentionally put its people in harm’s way over the last eight months of devastating war in Gaza.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamass-sinwar-said-to-laud-high-civilian-death-toll-in-gaza-as-necessary-sacrifice/

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas's Gaza leader, not ex. Lovely chap, discuss?

 

Hamas’s Sinwar said to laud high civilian death toll in Gaza as ‘necessary sacrifice’

Wall Street Journal report details messages to interlocutors in which Gazan terror chief exalts Palestinian deaths as helping increase pressure on Israel

Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar has insisted that civilian bloodshed in Gaza is a necessary sacrifice that will lead to the liberation of Palestine, according to a report published late Monday, bolstering accusations that the terror group has intentionally put its people in harm’s way over the last eight months of devastating war in Gaza.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamass-sinwar-said-to-laud-high-civilian-death-toll-in-gaza-as-necessary-sacrifice/

Just proves they are all nutters........🤔

1 minute ago, transam said:

Just proves they are all nutters........🤔

& their supporters

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