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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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It wasnt only females that were raped and gang raped by Hamas on Oct 7th, a male survivor speaks about the gang rape he endured.

 

Oct. 7 survivor recounts rape at hands of Hamas terrorists
“They pin you to the ground, you try to resist, they take of your clothes, laugh at you, humiliate you, spit at you,” he says, his face blurred and his voice distorted to avoid recognition. “They touched [private] parts, they rape you.”
“There is a circle, [people] laugh, and you don’t know what to do in the moment, whether you should resist or let it pass, how to deal with the situation. There was a very difficult rape. At some point more people arrived and called for them and so they had to stop,” adds Dalet.
 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-first-oct-7-survivor-recounts-rape-at-hands-of-hamas-terrorists/

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  • thaibeachlovers
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    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

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    Jeff the Chef

    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I totally agree with Bernie Sander -Netanyahu should not be allowed to address Congress. 

 

“We Should Not Invite a War Criminal to Address Congress” 

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-on-prime-minister-netanyahus-upcoming-speech/

They had the address and the netanyahu sycophants were all applauding the war criminal. Says much about the character of many in congress. A few boycotted the war criminal's speech, so some are not in thrall to the israeli lobby.

Heidi Bachram, who had relatives that were murdered and taken hostage by Hamas terrorists.

 

"It was just revealed by Israeli intelligence that Hamas had detailed instructions on terrorising innocents on October 7th. They were told to smear stains “using blood-soaked hands on the walls of hostages' and victims' homes”. Never tell me these horrors were random. Never."

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"Hamas commanders had license to declare any depravities allowable. Including murdering the Bedouin as “collaborators” and Thai workers as “infidels”. They also had a list of suspected gay ppl to kill. Hamas are not freedom fighters. They are monsters."

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IDF uncovers trove of Hamas secrets
IDF and Shin Bet uncover extensive Hamas intelligence, revealing lists of suspected LGBTQ+ individuals, brutal tactics, global operations, and systematic terror tactics.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-811143

 

 

 

17 hours ago, transam said:

Just shows you know absolutely nothing.....:coffee1:

No, he's right, Douglas Murray is totally biased against the Palestinian animals that murder, rape, set fire to and kill civilian children in front of their parents.

 

And I assume everyone that does not support Hamas/Palestine is biased in the same way, I know I am. 

Another 5 hostage bodies recovered from Gaza and returned back to Israel by the IDF

 

Israeli military recovers five hostages' bodies in Gaza

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The Israeli military says it has recovered the bodies of five Israelis taken back to Gaza as hostages during Hamas’s attack on southern Israel on 7 October.

The bodies of kindergarten teacher Maya Goren as well as the soldiers Major Ravid Aryeh Katz, Master Sergeant Oren Goldin, Staff Sergeant Tomer Ahimas and Sergeant Kiril Brodski were found during an operation in the Khan Younis area.

The military said it had determined that Ms Goren was murdered in captivity, while the soldiers were killed in combat on 7 October and their bodies then abducted.

The announcement means 111 of the 251 people taken hostage are still being held in Gaza, including 39 who the military says are presumed dead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51y9qpjyx8o

Well done the UK. More and more countries are starting to see this vile creatures true colours. 

 

Labour has announced its biggest step yet in overhauling the UK’s approach to the Middle East, dropping its opposition to an international arrest warrant against Benjamin Netanyahu despite pressure from Washington not to do so.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/26/britain-drops-challenge-icc-arrest-warrants-israeli-leaders-netanyahu-gallant

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Well done the UK. More and more countries are starting to see this vile creatures true colours. 

 

Labour has announced its biggest step yet in overhauling the UK’s approach to the Middle East, dropping its opposition to an international arrest warrant against Benjamin Netanyahu despite pressure from Washington not to do so.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/26/britain-drops-challenge-icc-arrest-warrants-israeli-leaders-netanyahu-gallant

Pity Starmer didn't invite the war criminal to meet him in London before changing the policy, and send a cohort of cops to arrest him on arrival, for delivery to the ICC.

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Well done the UK. More and more countries are starting to see this vile creatures true colours. 

 

Labour has announced its biggest step yet in overhauling the UK’s approach to the Middle East, dropping its opposition to an international arrest warrant against Benjamin Netanyahu despite pressure from Washington not to do so.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/26/britain-drops-challenge-icc-arrest-warrants-israeli-leaders-netanyahu-gallant

I'm almost starting to think Starmer isn't such a bad choice after all.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pity Starmer didn't invite the war criminal to meet him in London before changing the policy, and send a cohort of cops to arrest him on arrival, for delivery to the ICC.

You really have no idea what's going on do you. There  are no arrest warrants the only arrest warrant is something you made up in your own mind.

 

Its not even certain the ICC has jurisdiction in the case yet, let alone issue warrants for Hamas or Bibi.

 

The International Criminal court has accepted the requests of 70 states, organizations and individuals to file amicus briefs regarding ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan’s decision to seek arrest warrants for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and three Hamas leaders

 

There's a topic on it here:

ICC Accepts Numerous Briefs Delaying Arrest Warrants For Hamas & Israeli Leaders

Seventy parties have been granted permission to submit briefs, many disputing the ICC’s jurisdiction over Israeli nationals and its authority to issue arrest warrants. This situation highlights ongoing debates about the court's jurisdiction and the admissibility of the case, which could ultimately lead to a rejection of the warrants.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1333839-icc-accepts-numerous-briefs-delaying-arrest-warrants-for-hamas-israeli-leaders/

 

If Netanyahu and Gallant are innocent why are they not willing to go before the I.C.C. to prove their innocents?

 

Focus: Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court that are alleged to have been committed in the Situation since 13 June 2014, the date to which reference is made in the Referral of the Situation to the Office of the Prosecutor.

 

On 3 March 2021, the Prosecutor announced the opening of the investigation into the Situation in the State of Palestine. This followed Pre-Trial Chamber I's decision on 5 February 2021 that the Court could exercise its criminal jurisdiction in the Situation and, by majority, that the territorial scope of this jurisdiction extends to Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. 

 

Pre-Trial Chamber I

Judge Iulia Motoc (Presiding Judge)
Judge Reine Alapini-Gansou
Judge Nicolas Guillou

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

If Netanyahu and Gallant are innocent why are they not willing to go before the I.C.C. to prove their innocents?

 

Focus: Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court that are alleged to have been committed in the Situation since 13 June 2014, the date to which reference is made in the Referral of the Situation to the Office of the Prosecutor.

 

On 3 March 2021, the Prosecutor announced the opening of the investigation into the Situation in the State of Palestine. This followed Pre-Trial Chamber I's decision on 5 February 2021 that the Court could exercise its criminal jurisdiction in the Situation and, by majority, that the territorial scope of this jurisdiction extends to Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. 

 

Pre-Trial Chamber I

Judge Iulia Motoc (Presiding Judge)
Judge Reine Alapini-Gansou
Judge Nicolas Guillou

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

Why would they turn up at The Hague when all the prosecutor did was voice some allegations with no arrest warrants and no ICC judge has officially examined those allegations to issue an arrest warrant in the first place?

35 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Why would they turn up at The Hague when all the prosecutor did was voice some allegations with no arrest warrants and no ICC judge has officially examined those allegations to issue an arrest warrant in the first place?

 

The answer was in my question, but as expected, all you ever get is another question, in reply.

15 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

The answer was in my question, but as expected, all you ever get is another question, in reply.

Got it. You don't want questions you think they should just turn up even though no arrest warrants have been issued. Lol 

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Latest developments and discussion of events in the Israel-Hamas War. Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

 

There is a new topic on the latest ICC here.

 

ICC Accepts Numerous Briefs Delaying Arrest Warrants For Hamas & Israeli Leaders

 

 

IDF still keeping busy.

 

Operational Activity Continues in Gaza:

 

📍Khan Yunis: 
IDF troops eliminated approx. 100 terrorists, including 7 terrorist cells who fired mortars toward IDF troops during combat in the area.

 

📍Rafah:
The IAF struck and eliminated several terrorists who were identified operating in the area. Troops also located tunnel shafts and weapons, including long-range rocket launchers and explosives in the area of Tel as Sultan.

 

Additionally, the IAF struck approximately 45 terrorist targets, including terrorist cells, tunnel shafts, military structures, and 2 launch pits used to fire toward southern Israel during the war.

 

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https://x.com/IDF/status/1816736583019540560

However, it's not all israel's way. A rocket attack on the illegally occupied Golan Heights killed some israelis and wounded more.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-hezbollah-fire-exchange-kills-3-militants-injures-112332862

 

Seems that israelis consider israeli children more important than Palestinian children though, given the response, which is IMO ironic as they have killed thousands of children in Gaza.

 

Looks like it's all falling apart for the US druthers, as the slide to a regional war continues. It's not going to look good for the election if US troops have been committed to yet another M E war.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

However, it's not all israel's way. A rocket attack on the illegally occupied Golan Heights killed some israelis and wounded more.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-hezbollah-fire-exchange-kills-3-militants-injures-112332862

 

Seems that israelis consider israeli children more important than Palestinian children though, given the response, which is IMO ironic as they have killed thousands of children in Gaza.

 

Looks like it's all falling apart for the US druthers, as the slide to a regional war continues. It's not going to look good for the election if US troops have been committed to yet another M E war.

Seems that israelis consider israeli children more important than Palestinian children though

 

The strike was on a football field of a Druze village. Most do not have Israeli citizenship although they could if they wanted, they were offered it by Israel. Most retained an allegiance to Syria. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c29dydz84ngo

On 7/28/2024 at 7:32 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Most do not have Israeli citizenship although they could if they wanted, they were offered it by Israel.

  

Why would they want it?

 

This is Syrian territory.

 

The international community, with the exception of Israel and the United States, considers the Golan Heights to be Syrian territory held by Israel under military occupation.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_the_Golan_Heights#:~:text=The Golan Heights are a,by Israel under military occupation.

On 7/28/2024 at 3:35 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

However, it's not all israel's way. A rocket attack on the illegally occupied Golan Heights killed some israelis and wounded more.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-hezbollah-fire-exchange-kills-3-militants-injures-112332862

 

Seems that israelis consider israeli children more important than Palestinian children though, given the response, which is IMO ironic as they have killed thousands of children in Gaza.

 

Looks like it's all falling apart for the US druthers, as the slide to a regional war continues. It's not going to look good for the election if US troops have been committed to yet another M E war.

Are you sure they were Israelis?

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you sure they were Israelis?

I see you stated above it belongs to Syria. 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

  

Why would they want it?

 

This is Syrian territory.

 

The international community, with the exception of Israel and the United States, considers the Golan Heights to be Syrian territory held by Israel under military occupation.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_the_Golan_Heights#:~:text=The Golan Heights are a,by Israel under military occupation.

I never claimed they did want it. lol

 

The topics here anyway.

Rocket Strike Killing 12 Children & Teens puts Israel and Hezbollah on brink of all-out war

https://aseannow.com/topic/1334051-rocket-strike-killing-12-children-teens-puts-israel-and-hezbollah-on-brink-of-all-out-war/

 

Just now, Neeranam said:

I never said you did. 

That's that sorted then :thumbsup:

20 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Are you sure they were Israelis?

They were on the israeli side of the wire and netanyahu is making noises that would be appropriate for israelis. They may not be actual citizens, but IMO netanyahu wants a wider war, and any excuse will do.

Result!

 

Iran says Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in Tehran

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard said Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in Tehran.

The statement gave no details on how Haniyeh was killed. State TV reported on his death early Wednesday.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-hamas-israel-30968a7acb31cd8b259de9650014b779

Ismail Haniyeh Reelected To Another Term As Hamas Leader - i24NEWS

12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Result!

 

Iran says Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in Tehran

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard said Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in Tehran.

The statement gave no details on how Haniyeh was killed. State TV reported on his death early Wednesday.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-hamas-israel-30968a7acb31cd8b259de9650014b779

Ismail Haniyeh Reelected To Another Term As Hamas Leader - i24NEWS

Killing a truce negotiator is a surefire way to demonstrate Netanyahu's desire for peace.

 

Who was Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas political leader killed in Tehran?

As Hamas’s political leader, he was a key interlocutor with international mediators during stalled hostage and ceasefire talks between Israel and Hamas, following the group’s October 7 attack on Israel.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/31/middleeast/ismail-haniyeh-death-hamas-profile-intl-hnk/index.html

 

On 7/26/2024 at 10:58 PM, Jeff the Chef said:

If Netanyahu and Gallant are innocent why are they not willing to go before the I.C.C. to prove their innocents?

 

Focus: Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court that are alleged to have been committed in the Situation since 13 June 2014, the date to which reference is made in the Referral of the Situation to the Office of the Prosecutor.

 

On 3 March 2021, the Prosecutor announced the opening of the investigation into the Situation in the State of Palestine. This followed Pre-Trial Chamber I's decision on 5 February 2021 that the Court could exercise its criminal jurisdiction in the Situation and, by majority, that the territorial scope of this jurisdiction extends to Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. 

 

Pre-Trial Chamber I

Judge Iulia Motoc (Presiding Judge)
Judge Reine Alapini-Gansou
Judge Nicolas Guillou

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

If Netanyahu and Gallant are innocent why are they not willing to go before the I.C.C. to prove their innocents?

The obligation is upon the accuser to prove the allegation. Your position is one of a presumption of guilt. That is how it works in Iran, North Korea, Yemen and a few other despot states. You would not accept if you were accused of a crime and then told to prove that you are not. Why then do you expect that you can demand it of others?

 

 

Another 150 Hamas down.

 

 

The IDF's 98th Division has withdrawn from southern Gaza's Khan Younis after operating there for just over a week, the military says.
Amid the operation, the IDF says that troops with the division killed over 150 terror operative. The division also demolished tunnels and other sites used by Hamas, and recovered the bodies of five hostages.
Meanwhile, a prominent Hamas commander responsible for anti-tank fire in the terror group's Nuseirat Battalion was killed in a drone strike, the IDF says.
Additionally, reservists with the 252nd Division operating in the Netzarim Corridor area killed several gunmen during raids on Hamas sites, the military adds.

https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1818210456516882526

 

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