3 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

As long as the HAMAS terrorists hold children, women and elderly people - all civilians! - as hostages, the IDF should go ahead to whipe them out.

As long as those terrorists hide behind their own people, in hospitals and schools, there sadly will be a high death toll under civilians.

 

What was the term when th US forces bombed cities in Iraq and wedding parties in Afghanistan to kill Al Quaeda terrorists an islamists? Ah, right: "Collateral demage".

 

Disgusting advocacy of genocide.

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Thanks for clearing that up. And just who is it that determines if someone is innocent or a terrorist?

 

   The book of law .

That book where laws are written down 

1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said:

As long as the HAMAS terrorists hold children, women and elderly people - all civilians! - as hostages, the IDF should go ahead to whipe them out.

As long as those terrorists hide behind their own people, in hospitals and schools, there sadly will be a high death toll under civilians.

 

What was the term when th US forces bombed cities in Iraq and wedding parties in Afghanistan to kill Al Quaeda terrorists an islamists? Ah, right: "Collateral demage".

 

"...children, women and elderly people"

How about young men? Are they okay to hold as hostages?

As long as the "terrorsts" hide behind their own people (civilians), the IDF is happy to justify killing those people.

Yes, the term used to mitigate the responsibility of killing non-combatants is "collateral damage." So you think "collateral damage" is okay, right? 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The book of law .

That book where laws are written down 

What "book of law"?  And if there is one, it would only give definitions of "innocent" and "terrorist." It would not judge someone to be either. A person or group of people have to do that.

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

What "book of law"?  And if there is one, it would only give definitions of "innocent" and "terrorist." It would not judge someone to be either. A person or group of people have to do that.

 

   There are books of law which states what crimes are .

I am not surprised that you didn't know that .

No doubt you take no notice if actual laws and just call anyone guilty and innocent , regardless of written laws .

  *Muslim Terrorists are innocent and Jewish  babies are guilty*

 

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 

"...children, women and elderly people"

How about young men? Are they okay to hold as hostages?

As long as the "terrorsts" hide behind their own people (civilians), the IDF is happy to justify killing those people.

Yes, the term used to mitigate the responsibility of killing non-combatants is "collateral damage." So you think "collateral damage" is okay, right? 

 

The truth is that a military response to a terrorist attack is unwarranted. It should always be a judicial remedy. The Israeli response was collective punishment.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

The truth is that a military response to a terrorist attack is unwarranted. It should always be a judicial remedy. The Israeli response was collective punishment.

Who's truth is that? 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Who's truth is that? 

 

Mine. Palestine is not a state and therefore there was no act of war.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There are books of law which states what crimes are .

I am not surprised that you didn't know that .

No doubt you take no notice if actual laws and just call anyone guilty and innocent , regardless of written laws .

  *Muslim Terrorists are innocent and Jewish  babies are guilty*

 

I have never seen a legal book that defines "innocent" or "terrorist." 
I do judge people myself as being "innocent" or "terrorist," as I believe you do.
"Terrorists are terrorists, and babies are babies." Their religion/ethnicity has nothing to do with that. 

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 

"...children, women and elderly people"

How about young men? Are they okay to hold as hostages?

No

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As long as the "terrorsts" hide behind their own people (civilians), the IDF is happy to justify killing those people.

Why do you think the IDF is happy about? Did you watch cheering IDF-soldiers like the Hamas terrorists did in the streets of Gaza after raping and slaughtering Israeli civilians? Did you watch those videos?

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Yes, the term used to mitigate the responsibility of killing non-combatants is "collateral damage." So you think "collateral damage" is okay, right? 

No. That might be one the differences between me and Hamas terrorists

 

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Mine. Palestine is not a state and therefore there was no act of war.

LOL, your truth is worth nothing in the real world

 

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

The truth is that a military response to a terrorist attack is unwarranted. It should always be a judicial remedy. The Israeli response was collective punishment.

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

19 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 

"...children, women and elderly people"

How about young men? Are they okay to hold as hostages?

No

Quote

As long as the "terrorsts" hide behind their own people (civilians), the IDF is happy to justify killing those people.

Why do you think the IDF is happy about? Did you watch cheering IDF-soldiers like the Hamas terrorists did in the streets of Gaza after raping and slaughtering Israeli civilians? Did you watch those videos?

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Yes, the term used to mitigate the responsibility of killing non-combatants is "collateral damage." So you think "collateral damage" is okay, right? 

No. That might be one the differences between me and Hamas terrorists

I agree with all three of your responses above... I'd only add to the second that, yes, I did see photos of the IDF "cheering" when they killed Hamas terrorists in Gaza, and to the last, I'd add "....and the IDF."

31 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

But one Jewish child has value, is that what you are saying?

Have you got comprehension problems, this again is what I said. ⬇️⬇️⬇️

 

59 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

13,000 Hamas terrorists have no value in the slightest, only in your eyes Mr Smart, only in your eyes, the world will be a much better and safer place without them.

Of course one Jewish child has value, just the same as one Palestian child has value, Hamas terrorist have no value whatsoever, is this clear enough for you or have you any other words you would like to put in my mouth?

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Have you got comprehension problems, this again is what I said. ⬇️⬇️⬇️

 

Of course one Jewish child has value, just the same as one Palestian child has value, Hamas terrorist have no value whatsoever, is this clear enough for you or have you any other words you would like to put in my mouth?

 

Do IDF war criminals have value?

 

A Palestinian boy is shot dead after he lit a firework. Israel’s use of deadly force is scrutinized

 

A 12-year-old boy in east Jerusalem lights the fuse of a long firework and hoists it in the air. Then, just before it explodes and illuminates the night sky with a burst of red, he is shot in the chest by Israeli police and falls to the ground.

 

Halhouli, the youngest of seven siblings, was shot at around 8 p.m. last Tuesday outside his home on a garbage-strewn alleyway, his father said. He was roughly 60 meters (200 feet) from the Israeli police watchtower; video of the incident shows Halhouli pointing the firework in the rough direction of the watchtower, but not directly at it.

 

https://apnews.com/article/shaufat-israel-palestinians-jerusalem-shuafat-600690541cc356f7648ff6c3a2091004

3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Have you got comprehension problems, this again is what I said. ⬇️⬇️⬇️

 

Of course one Jewish child has value, just the same as one Palestian child has value, Hamas terrorist have no value whatsoever, is this clear enough for you or have you any other words you would like to put in my mouth?

I do. I'd like to know if you think the life of an Australian, American, British, German, Palestinian, or Jewish terrorist has any value.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Do IDF war criminals have value?

 

A Palestinian boy is shot dead after he lit a firework. Israel’s use of deadly force is scrutinized

 

A 12-year-old boy in east Jerusalem lights the fuse of a long firework and hoists it in the air. Then, just before it explodes and illuminates the night sky with a burst of red, he is shot in the chest by Israeli police and falls to the ground.

 

https://apnews.com/article/shaufat-israel-palestinians-jerusalem-shuafat-600690541cc356f7648ff6c3a2091004

Edited your post after I replied. 🥴

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I do. I'd likez to know if you think the life of an Australian, American, British, German, Palestinian, or Jewish terrorist has any value.

Get on topic and cease this nonsense, 

33 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I have never seen a legal book that defines "innocent" or "terrorist." 
I do judge people myself as being "innocent" or "terrorist," as I believe you do.
"Terrorists are terrorists, and babies are babies." Their religion/ethnicity has nothing to do with that. 

 

  Every Country has their own law book and whilst there no laws that proclaim a person as being innocent  but if you don't break any of the laws, then you are indeed innocent 

26 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Do IDF war criminals have value?

 

A Palestinian boy is shot dead after he lit a firework. Israel’s use of deadly force is scrutinized

 

A 12-year-old boy in east Jerusalem lights the fuse of a long firework and hoists it in the air. Then, just before it explodes and illuminates the night sky with a burst of red, he is shot in the chest by Israeli police and falls to the ground.

 

Halhouli, the youngest of seven siblings, was shot at around 8 p.m. last Tuesday outside his home on a garbage-strewn alleyway, his father said. He was roughly 60 meters (200 feet) from the Israeli police watchtower; video of the incident shows Halhouli pointing the firework in the rough direction of the watchtower, but not directly at it.

 

https://apnews.com/article/shaufat-israel-palestinians-jerusalem-shuafat-600690541cc356f7648ff6c3a2091004

They even shoot their own hostages, God knows how many Gazans they have killed as they were holding white flags.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/3-israeli-hostages-tried-only-killed-military-rcna130912

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

They even shoot their own hostages, God knows how many Gazans they have killed as they were holding white flags.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/3-israeli-hostages-tried-only-killed-military-rcna130912

 

   Again , a story over 3 months old and discussed at the time of publication 

22 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

25 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I do. I'd likez to know if you think the life of an Australian, American, British, German, Palestinian, or Jewish terrorist has any value.

Get on topic and cease this nonsense, 

So, I was unable to put words in your mouth because you have no answer to that question.

Just another reminder, I ALWAYS answer questions put directly to me on this and other forums with a "Yes" or "No" answer (or occasionally, "I don't know), followed with more detail if I deem necessary. Just sayin'... 

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) denied a request from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address the Senate Democratic caucus in a virtual meeting, arguing against approaching discussions on Israel through a partisan lens.

Netanyahu, the right-wing Israeli leader, met with Senate Republicans in a closed virtual meeting on Wednesday. A spokesperson for Schumer said in a widely reported statement that the majority leader denied Netanyahu’s similar request for Democrats.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4546039-schumer-denies-netanyahu-request-to-address-democrats/

Senate Dems push Biden to establish two-state solution for Israel, Palestine

A group of 19 Democratic senators have sent a letter to President Biden urging his administration to establish a “bold, public framework” for a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. 

 

https://thehill.com/newsletters/4545838-senate-dems-push-biden-to-establish-two-state-solution-for-israel-palestine/

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

They even shoot their own hostages, God knows how many Gazans they have killed as they were holding white flags.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/3-israeli-hostages-tried-only-killed-military-rcna130912

Is that the best you can come up with, that was 3 months ago. 🥴

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have documented numerous incidents and allegations of human rights violations by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

“There is no single ‘Hamas,’” Tareq Baconi writes in his book, Hamas Contained: The Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance. “It is an exercise in futility, as well as fundamentally inaccurate and reductionist to try to suggest that the movement is some form of monolithic actor,” Baconi continues. There are, within the organisation, hardliners and pragmatists, religious conservatives and comparative moderates, those who prioritise the armed struggle against Israel, and those, at least until recently, who sought gains through political means.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/21/what-is-the-real-hamas

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have documented numerous incidents and allegations of human rights violations by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

 

That is not contained in the link, why have you put it there?

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have documented numerous incidents and allegations of human rights violations by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

 

   Again , a report from October 2023 and discussed on here when it was published .

Your report says that Israel MUST be investigated for war crimes

Israel were investigated for war crimes are were not found to be  guilty

Do keep up old chap 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The book of law .

That book where laws are written down 

 

Law and Israel, now there's a laugh:

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/9/israels-war-crimes-in-gaza-are-by-design-not-default

34 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have documented numerous incidents and allegations of human rights violations by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

 

 

  Do you have a link to back this bit up ?

 

"They have raised concerns about actions and practices that they argue could constitute violations of international humanitarian law and potentially amount to acts of state-sponsored terrorism."

 

   Or could you or anyone else point out where that is written in the link provided, as I cannot locate that sentence in the link . Where you cheating and adding sentences to links and hoping that no one would notice ?