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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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  • thaibeachlovers
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    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

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    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

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    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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54 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Again , a story over 3 months old and discussed at the time of publication 

 

Just as relevant today as it was then, IDF atrocities will never be forgotten.

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

  Now, please don't  provide links by Qatar state sponsored Al Jazeera , that Qatar who gives refuge to war criminals and helps them evade justice for their crimes , and then they accuse others of war crimes . The Al=Jazeera who lies on their news reports and silences anyone who tells the truth 

 

Israeli troops have found $3 million in cash at the Shifa Hospital in Gaza, they must pay their doctors well. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Just as relevant today as it was then, IDF atrocities will never be forgotten.

 

  But you really don't have to keep reposting the story 

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On 3/19/2024 at 10:19 AM, CharlieH said:

Al Jazeera Arabic (Arabic: الجزيرة Al-Jazīrah [æl (d)ʒæˈziːrɐ], lit.'The Peninsula') is a Qatari state-owned Arabic-language news television network. It is based in Doha and operated by the Al Jazeera Media Network, which also operates Al Jazeera English. It is the largest news network in the Middle East and North Africa region

 

It is therefore a bona fide News Agency. Whether you choose to believe the often stated bias of that agency is another matter of personal opinion.

 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Now, please don't  provide links by Qatar state sponsored Al Jazeera , that Qatar who gives refuge to war criminals and helps them evade justice for their crimes , and then they accuse others of war crimes . The Al=Jazeera who lies on their news reports and silences anyone who tells the truth 

 

Read and inwardly digest, you're welcome.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  But you really don't have to keep reposting the story 

 

Why's that, a tad embarrassing for you and the illustrious Israeli military.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Read and inwardly digest, you're welcome.

 

I'm getting really weary of attacking the messenger as a form of avoidance of debate.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Why's that, a tad embarrassing for you and the illustrious Israeli military.

 

But perfectly fine to keep repeating a terrorist attack from 5 months ago as a justification for ongoing war crimes and genocide now.

Blinken: US circulated draft UN Security Council resolution calling for ‘immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages’

The United States has circulated a draft UN Security Council resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages” in the Gaza Strip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken says.

“Well, in fact, we actually have a resolution that we put forward right now that’s before the United Nations Security Council that does call for an immediate ceasefire tied to the release of hostages, and we hope very much that countries will support that,” Blinken says.

“I think that would send a strong message, a strong signal,” he tells Saudi media outlet Al Hadath during a visit to Saudi Arabia to discuss the war between Israel and Hamas, sparked by the terror group’s devastating October 7 attack.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-us-circulated-draft-un-security-council-resolution-calling-for-immediate-ceasefire-linked-to-the-release-of-hostages/

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Blinken: US circulated draft UN Security Council resolution calling for ‘immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages’

The United States has circulated a draft UN Security Council resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages” in the Gaza Strip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken says.

“Well, in fact, we actually have a resolution that we put forward right now that’s before the United Nations Security Council that does call for an immediate ceasefire tied to the release of hostages, and we hope very much that countries will support that,” Blinken says.

“I think that would send a strong message, a strong signal,” he tells Saudi media outlet Al Hadath during a visit to Saudi Arabia to discuss the war between Israel and Hamas, sparked by the terror group’s devastating October 7 attack.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-us-circulated-draft-un-security-council-resolution-calling-for-immediate-ceasefire-linked-to-the-release-of-hostages/

 

Note the "immediate ceasefire part". That's not just a pause.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

 

Read and inwardly digest, you're welcome.

 

  Well post them if you want, but they wont be taken as having any integrity or any truth .

Al-Jazeera live streamed a mis firing Hamas rocket hitting a Gazain hospital and the next day they reported it as a Israeli rocket hitting the hospital and they never retracted that story . They also cut off any callers who stated the truth .

   Which shows how trustworthy AJ are

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Note the "immediate ceasefire part". That's not just a pause.

Everybody wants an immediate ceasefire and hostages released apart from Hamas, I've posted that myself today. Can you tell me where in the article it says its not just a pause? 

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Blinken: US circulated draft UN Security Council resolution calling for ‘immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages’

The United States has circulated a draft UN Security Council resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire linked to the release of hostages” in the Gaza Strip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken says.

“Well, in fact, we actually have a resolution that we put forward right now that’s before the United Nations Security Council that does call for an immediate ceasefire tied to the release of hostages, and we hope very much that countries will support that,” Blinken says.

“I think that would send a strong message, a strong signal,” he tells Saudi media outlet Al Hadath during a visit to Saudi Arabia to discuss the war between Israel and Hamas, sparked by the terror group’s devastating October 7 attack.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-us-circulated-draft-un-security-council-resolution-calling-for-immediate-ceasefire-linked-to-the-release-of-hostages/

This is one of the very few posts you've posted that I've indicated I liked. 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Everybody wants an immediate ceasefire and hostages released, I've posted that myself today. Can you tell me where in the article it says its not just a pause? 

 

Do you honestly think Blinken believes it would be fine to resume the invasion of Rafah after the hostages have been released?

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Why's that, a tad embarrassing for you and the illustrious Israeli military.

 

   It just gets rather repetitive .

For how long will you be celebrating  that victory ?

You won that previous  battle , now lets get on with the current  war

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Do you honestly think Blinken believes it would be fine to resume the invasion of Rafah after the hostages have been released?

Its not what I think, its what you claim, where did you get this from? 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not what I think, its what you claim, where did you get this from? 

 

Common sense and a wider reading of Blinken's comments. I asked what you think. I can't imagine that any rational person believes other than he means a permanent ceasefire, especially when Blinken is calling for a 2 state solution. You are sounding a bit off the rails here to be frank.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Common sense and a wider reading of Blinken's comments. I asked what you think. I can't imagine that any rational person believes other than he means a permanent ceasefire, especially when Blinken is calling for a 2 state solution. You are sounding a bit off the rails here to be frank.

If I was you I'd use that common sense and wait to read the draft resolution first

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Do you honestly think Blinken believes it would be fine to resume the invasion of Rafah after the hostages have been released?

Its not what I think, its what you claim, where did you get this from? 

I not only think that Blinken is expecting a permanent ceasefire, but most of the rest of the world is slowly coming around to that expectation. Isreal, if it doesn't comply, will soon become a worldwide pariah, just what it didn't want. 
- Permanent ceasefire;
- Exchange of all hostages and prisoners; 
- Begin negotiations for a long-term agreement, which will probably be a two-state solution.

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It just gets rather repetitive .

For how long will you be celebrating  that victory ?

You won that previous  battle , now lets get on with the current  war

 

As is said on here time and time again, this war started on the 7th Oct 2023, the IDF killed 3 Israeli ex-prisoners waving white flags and screaming in Hebrew, there is nothing to celebrate, just another 3 dead to add to the total killed.

Intense, at least another 40 terrorists killed since the earlier update a few hours ago..................

 

Israeli Army Says Over 140 Militants Killed In Al-Shifa Operation.

More than 140 militants have been killed in four days of fighting in and around Gaza's largest hospital, where the Israeli army's operation is still underway, the military said Thursday.

Israel launched a raid on Al-Shifa medical centre on Monday, targeting what it said were senior Hamas militants with tank fire and air strikes.

Combat has raged for days in and around the sprawling hospital complex crowded with patients and displaced people. A previous raid on the complex in November triggered international outrage.

https://www.barrons.com/news/israeli-army-says-over-140-militants-killed-in-al-shifa-operation-cf1dbad2

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Intense, at least another 40 terrorists killed since the earlier update a few hours ago..................

 

Israeli Army Says Over 140 Militants Killed In Al-Shifa Operation.

More than 140 militants have been killed in four days of fighting in and around Gaza's largest hospital, where the Israeli army's operation is still underway, the military said Thursday.

Israel launched a raid on Al-Shifa medical centre on Monday, targeting what it said were senior Hamas militants with tank fire and air strikes.

Combat has raged for days in and around the sprawling hospital complex crowded with patients and displaced people. A previous raid on the complex in November triggered international outrage.

https://www.barrons.com/news/israeli-army-says-over-140-militants-killed-in-al-shifa-operation-cf1dbad2

And, how many hostages have been released recently? 

Just now, WDSmart said:

And, how many hostages have been released recently? 

You know right, why ask me such a question. Not playing your little games, very childish

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

As is said on here time and time again, this war started on the 7th Oct 2023, the IDF killed 3 Israeli ex-prisoners waving white flags and screaming in Hebrew, there is nothing to celebrate, just another 3 dead to add to the total killed.

 

   If you didn't keep posting the same link over and over again, then you wouldn't have to keep saying the same thing time and time again .

   Not only posting the link, but also describing what happened again  in subsequent  posts .

As you keep describing and highlighting  the IDF messing up. Sounds like you are gloating and celebrating 

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You know right, why ask me such a question. Not playing your little games, very childish

My point was that although you boast about the IDF killing 140 militants (supposedly, by their ID and count), no hostages have been released. If the recovery of hostages were the primary goal of the Israeli government, their plans so far are not working. If they really valued the lives of all those hostages, they should more seriously consider a ceasefire, not continuing attacks.

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

My point was that although you boast about the IDF killing 140 militants (supposedly, by their ID and count), no hostages have been released. If the recovery of hostages were the primary goal of the Israeli government, their plans so far are not working. If they really valued the lives of all those hostages, they should more seriously consider a ceasefire, not continuing attacks.

 

That would mean Netanyahu loses his position and faces prosecution for domestic crimes, apart from his war crimes.

27 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

As is said on here time and time again, this war started on the 7th Oct 2023, the IDF killed 3 Israeli ex-prisoners waving white flags and screaming in Hebrew, there is nothing to celebrate, just another 3 dead to add to the total killed.

 

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   If you didn't keep posting the same link over and over again, then you wouldn't have to keep saying the same thing time and time again .

   Not only posting the link, but also describing what happened again  in subsequent  posts .

As you keep describing and highlighting  the IDF messing up. Sounds like you are gloating and celebrating 

 

Where do you get from my post any celebrating or gloating and no link posted, as this is well known information.

 

13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

My point was that although you boast about the IDF killing 140 militants (supposedly, by their ID and count), no hostages have been released. If the recovery of hostages were the primary goal of the Israeli government, their plans so far are not working. If they really valued the lives of all those hostages, they should more seriously consider a ceasefire, not continuing attacks.

Actually they've killed 140 terrorists not militants and that's just at the hospital, other fighting goes on in Gaza where they have killed more. Yes I am very pleased and wish that Hamas did what other security council resolutions ordered, release the hostages immediately.

 

Hamas refused the ceasefires deals so far even with all the concessions made by Israel.

 

Why does this have to be explained again and again and again to you. So repetitive and time wasting

 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Actually they've killed 140 terrorists not militants and that's just at the hospital, other fighting goes on in Gaza where they have killed more. Yes I am very pleased and wish that Hamas did what other security council resolutions ordered, release the hostages immediately.

 

Hamas refused the ceasefires deals so far even with all the concessions made by Israel.

 

Why does this have to be explained again and again and again to you. So repetitive and time wasting

 

Going round and round in circles with the antisemite bloke wearing a syrup.........🥴

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