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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It's not necessarily about you just because I responded to your post.

I agree totally of course that civilian suffering especially children is horrible.

 

Yet, you support what Israel are doing, this makes no sense. Do you also support the US providing the weapons to Israel?

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40 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It is NOT based on religion. It is based on being a Jew. 

If Israel granted right of return to Palestinian Arabs which has been a demand from Palestinians, Israel would no longer exist. So nice try, no cigar. 

This statement makes no sense! 

It only makes sense because "Jew" can mean ethnicity or religion. 

Posted
33 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The Arabs HAD a state based on the UN charter.

You have the right to your opinion that Israel should never have been allowed to exist.

But too late. It does and it isn't going anywhere.

Israel may not be "going anyway," but I suspect it will be reduced in size under any two-state solution.

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1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

It only makes sense because "Jew" can mean ethnicity or religion. 

This is true as Jews are an ETHNORELIGIOUS group, like the Kurds.

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Just now, WDSmart said:

Israel may not be "going anyway," but I suspect it will be reduced in size under any two-state solution.

If there ever is a two state solution I would expect Israel would need to give up at least some it's illegal west bank settlements.

That's going to be very hard to sell politically in Israel. 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The trouble with your narrative is that it's simple minded.

It blames ONE side when actually the conflict is incredibly complex. 

I certainly agree with your second sentence above!

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10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Yet, you support what Israel are doing, this makes no sense. Do you also support the US providing the weapons to Israel?

There you go again!
Do not put words in my mouth.

I have never said that I support everything Israeli governemts do.
Why do Israel demonizers feel the need to try to make very complex things so simple minded?

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4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is true as Jews are an ETHNORELIGIOUS group, like the Kurds.

Interesting. I know a Rabbi that is a naturalized Thai. I know Sikhhs that have got Thai citizenship by birth and get equal rights. 

Do you know know any non-Jew who got Israeli citizenship by naturalization?

Maybe @Bkk Brian does? 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

There you go again!
Do not put words in my mouth.

I have never said that I support everything Israeli governemts do.
Why do Israel demonizers feel the need to try to make very complex things so simple minded?

 Do you also support the US providing the weapons to Israel?

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9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is true as Jews are an ETHNORELIGIOUS group, like the Kurds.

Yes, but now someone can be a "Jew" without having Jewish ethnicity, and an ethnic "Jew" can have left Judaism, 

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9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If there ever is a two state solution I would expect Israel would need to give up at least some it's illegal west bank settlements.

That's going to be very hard to sell politically in Israel. 

FINALLY! A post of yours with which I agree. And I know that doesn't mean you support doing this, but yes, any two-state solution will be very difficult because each side will have to give up, or at least adjust the boundaries on some territory, and neither side will want to do that.

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2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting. I know a Rabbi that is a naturalized Thai. I know Sikhhs that have got Thai citizenship by birth and get equal rights. 

Do you know know any non-Jew who got Israeli citizenship by naturalization?

Maybe @Bkk Brian does? 

What's the point of asking me? Not once have you responded to one of my posts to you pulling you up on your false claims

Posted
2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 Do you also support the US providing the weapons to Israel?

My response was supposed to quote this post

 

18 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Without Us support, you know we would had a much worse scenario and also a much bigger problem. The west Aliance brake when Jerusalem falls. Simple as that

 

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6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, but now someone can be a "Jew" without having Jewish ethnicity, and an ethnic "Jew" can have left Judaism, 

What's the problem?

Posted
4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Written after Palestinian Arab identity became a thing. Duh.

 

All history texts are written after the fact. What is your point here?

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Just now, ozimoron said:

 

All history texts are written after the fact. What is your point here?

Already said.

When the UN made the partition there were two states. One Jewish. One Arab. Not Palestinian. Arab.

Before Jews were as "Palestinian" as Arabs.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
15 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, but now someone can be a "Jew" without having Jewish ethnicity, and an ethnic "Jew" can have left Judaism, 

What's the problem?

I have no problem with this, except when using the term "Jew," someone might be referring to ethnicity or religion. You don't know just by reading the term. This is unlike "Arab" and "Muslim." 

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4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Already said.

When the UN made the partition there were two states. One Jewish. One Arab. Not Palestinian. Arab.

Before Jews were as "Palestinian" as Arabs.

And Jews are more or less origin arabs to! They are all related as brothers and cousins. 

 

It is just a matter of religion and faith as speaking

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

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This was because Neeranam asked you a question and you just responded with a question of your own. You do that often, and it seems to imply (as I've posted before) that if someone else (or some other country) has done something wrong in the past, it's okay for you (or Israel) to do something wrong now. I'd prefer it if you would, as I do, just answer the question with a "yes" or "no," and then give an explanation if you think it's warranted. 

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2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And Jews are more or less origin arabs to! They are all related as brothers and cousins. 

 

It is just a matter of religion and faith as speaking

Herein lies the problem in that area now, division of religions rather living together.

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5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is a delicate and dangerous strategic mistake to feed Saudi Arabia with weapons. 

 

They will turn agains us, Turkey is another loose Canon in the area. 

 

   The Saudis are now allies .

The biggest threat in the region are Iran .

The new alliance is now USA, Israel, Saudi

Iran is the common enemy and Iran is allied with Hezbollah and Hamas .

USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia v Iran /Hamas / Hezbollah is the new current battle ground  .

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8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And Jews are more or less origin arabs to! They are all related as brothers and cousins. 

 

It is just a matter of religion and faith as speaking

Yes! Yes! Yes! As I've noted before in the past, "Semite," which is the base term in "antisemitism," refers to BOTH Jews and Arabs (and some others), but the term "antisemite" is now used only to mean "anti-Jew(ethnic)." 
Semite noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

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Off topic posts about weapons to Iran and other troll posts have been removed also replies

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2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes! Yes! Yes! As I've noted before in the past, "Semite," which is the base term in "antisemitism," refers to BOTH Jews and Arabs (and some others), but the term "antisemite" is now used only to mean "anti-Jew(ethnic)." 
Semite noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

Israel and its supporters often leverage accusations of anti-Semitism to deflect criticism, silence dissent, and rally international support for their policies and illegal actions.

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5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The Saudis are now allies .

The biggest threat in the region are Iran .

The new alliance is now USA, Israel, Saudi

Iran is the common enemy and Iran is allied with Hezbollah and Hamas .

USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia v Iran /Hamas / Hezbollah is the new current battle ground  .

We will see how deep that alliance is, if russia progress with its war against neighboring countries. 

 

Right now it is a rule and split strategy going on, and if Putin succeed, we know countries such as Saudis, and potentially Turkey will turn. 

 

Right now, Israel is the glue that keeps this all together. 

 

Therefor Ukraine or Israel can not loose their wars or position. 

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2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

 

Right now it is a rule and split strategy going on, and if Putin succeed, we know countries such as Saudis, and potentially Turkey will turn. 

 

 

 

   We/You do not know that though

That is just what you think /Hope .

Turkey was one an allie , but now not .

Saudi is still an allie and Saudi is in course to making peace with Israel 

Just waiting for the current war to end 

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