Trump says some undocumented immigrants are ‘not people’

[Dolf]

45 minutes ago, newnative said:

Which is also a lie.  More crime, including violent crime, is committed by legal Americans than illegal immigrants on a percentage basis. From one study:

The study found that undocumented immigrants had substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Where is the study?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Trump is just rephrasing his previous racist talking points and repeating them.

It’s what his fans at home and abroad love to hear.

 

You’ll find them here, cheering Trump on and defending his racist  remarks.

 

 

[sirineou]

4 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Where is the study?

There is a very easy way to find this, 

Simply copy the quote , and paste it in google, 

Though I agree with you, a link would have been helpful.

I did the copy and paste thing and below is the link. 

https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and

[Dolf]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s what his fans at home and abroad love to hear.

 

You’ll find them here, cheering Trump on and defending his racist  remarks.

 

 

Biden is a career racist. You defend him.

 

Pot kettle black

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Dolf said:

Biden is a career racist. You defend him.

 

Pot kettle black

Inserting off topic baseless assertions isn’t helping you out of anything.

 

Refer top of thread for the subject of discussion.

[newnative]

34 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Where is the study?

Why not do some research for yourself?  Which is what I did when I saw the statement.

[nauseus]

On 3/18/2024 at 9:06 AM, 2baht said:

Trump.....makes America look stupider by the day!

Pot calling Biden...

[nauseus]

18 hours ago, G_Money said:

A few more adjectives please.  You’re lacking adjectives.

 

And slurs, slurs. Must have more slurs.

[nauseus]

18 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

Please, someone tell me how it is possible that this person could be reelected.

Wasn't it bad enough the first time around?

 

What was so bad? 

[nauseus]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Many Americans are as stupid as their reputation.

 

Well. you said it.

[Yagoda]

Oh look, another Trump thread for the trolls based on a lie.

 

 

[cdemundo]

"He was referring to the high concentration of criminals associated with illegal immigrants."

 

If I understand what you are trying to say (and I think you are really trying), I don't think that it is true.

[Emdog]

19 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Those are skewed by blacks which have a massive rate of violent crime compared to everyone else. Compare the immigrants to their racial category and you'll see South Americans have a much higher crime rate than whites or Asians. Immigration status is temporary, what matters is once they're naturalized or have children.

 

All that needs to be said, if you want your country to look more like Mexico or Venezuela than import Mexicans and Venezuelans.

The subject is immigrants, crime rates and are they animals... not race. You are "moving the goal posts" it seems to me. Play your racist card if you want. Texas, California, Arizona, etc were all Mexican before US took those lands (Gee, maybe all those Spanish names were just coincidence?). Or... Asian Americans have lower crime rate than whites, so kick the whites out....

here is article from Cato Institute, well known right wing Republican foundation (not NYT or other outlet you might accuse of "liberal bias"). Plenty of other sources out there. Cato makes no breakdown by race....

" In 2018, the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 illegal immigrants, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 native‐born Americans (Double illegal rates... me). The illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of native‐born Americans in Texas." My underlining, etc. Texas is the only state that keeps this sort of data, in case you don't want to read full article. https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, newnative said:

Which is also a lie.  More crime, including violent crime, is committed by legal Americans than illegal immigrants on a percentage basis. From one study:

The study found that undocumented immigrants had substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

What about the illegals shouldn't be here for any % of them to commit crimes. By entering illegally they have already admitted to committing a crime. Your argument is intended for the uneducated progressives.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

What about the illegals shouldn't be here for any % of them to commit crimes. By entering illegally they have already admitted to committing a crime. Your argument is intended for the uneducated progressives.

 

What's your solution? shoot them? The dems offered the strictest bill EVER for closing the border but Trump killed it. Your talking point is LOST.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

What's your solution? shoot them? The dems offered the strictest bill EVER for closing the border but Trump killed it. Your talking point is LOST.

The invasion began when biden took office, his words encouraged a massive flow of people from all over the world to cross the border. For 3 yrs the American people watched the hordes pouring over, seemingly unchecked by current admin. Heck, biden just recently visited the border. Before he was to busy to care, now its election time and he starts to care.

 

Now, it's all political. I don't know the bill...really. Was it good? 

 

 

[Wrwest]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If you could keep up with current events... you would have plenty of sources for the information that you seek so diligently... 555

OK, you find no need to support your statement. I have found no support substantiating your claim. Thus ... dismissed.

[ozimoron]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

The invasion began when biden took office, his words encouraged a massive flow of people from all over the world to cross the border. For 3 yrs the American people watched the hordes pouring over, seemingly unchecked by current admin. Heck, biden just recently visited the border. Before he was to busy to care, now its election time and he starts to care.

 

Now, it's all political. I don't know the bill...really. Was it good? 

 

 

 

Started when Biden took office? Really? Illegal immigration ebbs and flows with employment conditions. It got worse lately because employment conditions are much better under Biden. Blame the employers. The right wing are crickets when it comes to prosecuting employers. Do you support charging employers who employ illegals? I've asked this question many times and guess how many of the Biden blamers have replied in the affirmative?

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Started when Biden took office? Really? Illegal immigration ebbs and flows with employment conditions. It got worse lately because employment conditions are much better under Biden. Blame the employers. The right wing are crickets when it comes to prosecuting employers. Do you support charging employers who employ illegals? I've asked this question many times and guess how many of the Biden blamers have replied in the affirmative?

I'm leaving town on a jet plane, going to go support my home country a bit.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm leaving town on a jet plane, going to go support my home country a bit.

 

Google Gemini says:

 

There are labor shortages in many industries in the U.S., such as agriculture, construction, and hospitality. Undocumented immigrants are often willing to fill these jobs because they are less likely to complain about low wages or dangerous working conditions.

 

I note that you gave the question of jailing the employers a huge swerve. GG also says that illegals in the US make an average of 60% more than at home. Ford is doing the patriotic thing in reducing the pull factor by moving all of their small car production to Mexico.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Google Gemini says:

 

There are labor shortages in many industries in the U.S., such as agriculture, construction, and hospitality. Undocumented immigrants are often willing to fill these jobs because they are less likely to complain about low wages or dangerous working conditions.

 

I note that you gave the question of jailing the employers a huge swerve.

I answered the question earlier on. bye bye

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I answered the question earlier on. bye bye

 

Nope. My question was whether YOU supported jailing employers of illegal immigrants. You didn't go there.

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[candide]

2 hours ago, Dolf said:

Biden is a career racist. You defend him.

 

Pot kettle black

Stuff taken out of context by the propaganda fed to you! 😆

[G_Money]

True, there are criminals who are US citizens.  Mostly liberals.

Not only illegal aliens.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-lawsuit-alleges-nyc-mayor-eric-adams-demanded-sex-acts-from-police-officer-in-exchange-for-career-help

[candide]

24 minutes ago, G_Money said:

True, there are criminals who are US citizens.  Mostly liberals.

Not only illegal aliens.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-lawsuit-alleges-nyc-mayor-eric-adams-demanded-sex-acts-from-police-officer-in-exchange-for-career-help

And don't forget firemen! 😀

https://www.fox19.com/2024/03/12/cincinnati-fire-department-2-firefighters-epicenter-sexual-harassment-lawsuit/

[candide]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

 

There is more and more evidence that immigrants, regardless of legal status, are less likely to commit crimes than native‐born Americans. However, a substantial number of Americans still think that immigration increases crime. As more evidence builds over time, we can only hope that Americans respond by updating their opinions so that they fit the facts.

 

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

I see a conspiracy here! Biden importing immigrants to reduce crime rates in the U.S. 😀

[Paul Henry]

Dolf should check the latest polls after STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS!!!

[G_Money]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/laken-rileys-father-says-suspect-might-not-have-been-here-border-secure

[scorecard]

On 3/18/2024 at 1:18 PM, spidermike007 said:

Many of these people are being forced from the country by dire economics, drug cartels and threats of death. Yet they're not human because they're trying to escape destitution and poverty.

 

These kind of statements indicate exactly who this man is, what he is and what he is lacking in the way of heart and soul. Perhaps it's Trump that's is not a human. At a minimum he is lacking any sort of qualities of decency and he is a very dangerous man. 

Add:   

... and lacking in morals and ethics...