Popular Post Social Media Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 The inexorable march of time, governed by the Earth's rotation, is facing an unprecedented disruption due to the effects of global warming. In a remarkable turn of events, the melting of polar ice caps is not only altering the Earth's climate but also influencing its rotation, ultimately affecting the very essence of time itself. Traditionally, our understanding of time has been intricately linked to Earth's rotation, with each day determined by the subtle nuances of its spin. However, this rotational rhythm is far from constant, subject to fluctuations driven by both surface phenomena and internal dynamics within the Earth's molten core. These subtle variations occasionally necessitate adjustments to our clocks through the introduction of a "leap second." While seemingly insignificant, the addition or subtraction of a single second can have profound implications, particularly for the intricate workings of modern computing systems. Historically, leap seconds have been predominantly added to accommodate the gradual slowing of the Earth's rotation. However, in a remarkable twist, the planet's rotation is now accelerating due to changes in its core, necessitating the unprecedented subtraction of a second. This shift in Earth's rotational dynamics has been further compounded by the effects of global warming, particularly the melting of polar ice caps. As vast quantities of ice melt into the ocean, they disrupt the planet's equilibrium, causing a redistribution of mass that further influences its rotation speed. The interplay between these environmental factors and Earth's core processes is complex and multifaceted. While the melting of polar ice exerts a decelerating force on rotation, changes in the Earth's core contribute to an overall acceleration. The consequences of this shifting temporal landscape extend beyond mere abstraction, posing tangible challenges for modern society, especially in the realm of computing. While some computer systems are equipped to accommodate the addition of a leap second, few possess the capability to subtract one, potentially leading to disruptions and errors. Despite these technical complexities, the broader implications of these findings are profound. They underscore the profound impact of human activities on the Earth's natural systems, highlighting the interconnectedness of environmental and temporal phenomena. Ultimately, this convergence of environmental change and temporal flux serves as a potent reminder of humanity's capacity to shape the very fabric of our planet. As we grapple with the repercussions of global warming, the need for greater awareness and stewardship of our environment becomes ever more urgent. 28.03.24 Source 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 (edited) This is listed as "science"? sorry but it is just flat out wrong (removed most of the post as I don't want to get banned for "statement of the obvious" Edited March 28 by Emdog 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 where can i buy a gun to blow my brains out? I just cant cope with this anymore, ive already stopped eating meat so cow farts wont kill us, stopped eating vegetables as theyre all full of gm stuff, I wont use a vehicle cuz of its emissions, Ive been holding my breath for 3 months due to the burning...........its time 1 1 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 More propaganda, designed to scare us into handing over our liberty and cash digital tokens to big state. How long before they have us locked in our 15 minute cities, or better yet our houses, released for 15 minutes per day to exercise or to stand on our doorsteps to applaud employees of the state. All to protect us from the impending doom. Don't comply? Protest? Simple, they can freeze our bank accounts and fine/prosecute us. Oh wait a minute, that was 2020 😄. 3 4 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Anyone who has ever owned a toy gyroscope will know it is the wide bit at the equator that will have the most effect not the small diameter bit at the top. The core on the other hand will have an effect and no amount of electric cars will effect that change. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 31 minutes ago, JonnyF said: More propaganda, designed to scare us into handing over our liberty and cash digital tokens to big state. How long before they have us locked in our 15 minute cities, or better yet our houses, released for 15 minutes per day to exercise or to stand on our doorsteps to applaud employees of the state. All to protect us from the impending doom. Don't comply? Protest? Simple, they can freeze our bank accounts and fine/prosecute us. Oh wait a minute, that was 2020 😄. Propaganda you say. Then immediately launch into rightwing conspiracy nonsense. 5 3 3 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Anyone who has ever owned a toy gyroscope will know it is the wide bit at the equator that will have the most effect not the small diameter bit at the top. The core on the other hand will have an effect and no amount of electric cars will effect that change. You’ve never done the experiment in which mass is moved on a spinning plane to observe the effect of rotational speed? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The interplay between these environmental factors and Earth's core processes is complex and multifaceted. While the melting of polar ice exerts a decelerating force on rotation, changes in the Earth's core contribute to an overall acceleration. Thank goodness for global warming. Otherwise we may soon have real short days. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The inexorable march of time, governed by the Earth's rotation, is facing an unprecedented disruption due to the effects of global warming. In a remarkable turn of events, the melting of polar ice caps is not only altering the Earth's climate but also influencing its rotation, ultimately affecting the very essence of time itself. Traditionally, our understanding of time has been intricately linked to Earth's rotation, with each day determined by the subtle nuances of its spin. However, this rotational rhythm is far from constant, subject to fluctuations driven by both surface phenomena and internal dynamics within the Earth's molten core. These subtle variations occasionally necessitate adjustments to our clocks through the introduction of a "leap second." While seemingly insignificant, the addition or subtraction of a single second can have profound implications, particularly for the intricate workings of modern computing systems. Historically, leap seconds have been predominantly added to accommodate the gradual slowing of the Earth's rotation. However, in a remarkable twist, the planet's rotation is now accelerating due to changes in its core, necessitating the unprecedented subtraction of a second. This shift in Earth's rotational dynamics has been further compounded by the effects of global warming, particularly the melting of polar ice caps. As vast quantities of ice melt into the ocean, they disrupt the planet's equilibrium, causing a redistribution of mass that further influences its rotation speed. The interplay between these environmental factors and Earth's core processes is complex and multifaceted. While the melting of polar ice exerts a decelerating force on rotation, changes in the Earth's core contribute to an overall acceleration. The consequences of this shifting temporal landscape extend beyond mere abstraction, posing tangible challenges for modern society, especially in the realm of computing. While some computer systems are equipped to accommodate the addition of a leap second, few possess the capability to subtract one, potentially leading to disruptions and errors. Despite these technical complexities, the broader implications of these findings are profound. They underscore the profound impact of human activities on the Earth's natural systems, highlighting the interconnectedness of environmental and temporal phenomena. Ultimately, this convergence of environmental change and temporal flux serves as a potent reminder of humanity's capacity to shape the very fabric of our planet. As we grapple with the repercussions of global warming, the need for greater awareness and stewardship of our environment becomes ever more urgent. 28.03.24 Source This piece mentions "changes in the Earth's core" but is rather weak in explaining what those actually are and why they are occurring. Only the outer core is liquid. The inner core is solid. In any case, this will likely have happened before, when everything melted - computers and stock markets were not an issue then, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Propaganda you say. Then immediately launch into rightwing conspiracy nonsense. Oh really? Lockdowns, truckers funds being cut off for protesting (your mate Trudeau), fines for being outside all never happened. It's all a conspiracy. Who knew? That could never happen again, right? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see temporary lockdowns for climate based reasons in the next decade. Just very short ones, just to test the waters. Very recently in Thailand workers were "advised" to work from home due to PM 2.5 levels. It's not a huge leap for that to become a "recommendation" and then a "directive". You know, to "protect us". https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/26/bangkok-air-pollution-prompts-advice-to-work-from-home Climate change 'emergency' opens up all kinds of possibilities for controlling the masses. It's no wonder they are pushing it so hard. Obviously authoritarian hardcore leftists who dream of big state control love the idea, hence them jumping on the doomsday cult bandwagon so gleefully. 1 3 2 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 53 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Oh really? Lockdowns, truckers funds being cut off for protesting (your mate Trudeau), fines for being outside all never happened. It's all a conspiracy. Who knew? That could never happen again, right? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see temporary lockdowns for climate based reasons in the next decade. Just very short ones, just to test the waters. Very recently in Thailand workers were "advised" to work from home due to PM 2.5 levels. It's not a huge leap for that to become a "recommendation" and then a "directive". You know, to "protect us". https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/26/bangkok-air-pollution-prompts-advice-to-work-from-home Climate change 'emergency' opens up all kinds of possibilities for controlling the masses. It's no wonder they are pushing it so hard. Obviously authoritarian hardcore leftists who dream of big state control love the idea, hence them jumping on the doomsday cult bandwagon so gleefully. Raving! 3 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Raving! I love when you post these silly one word retorts. Good to see you found a new one though, "Pinned" was getting boring. It just proves to me you have nothing intelligent to say that disproves my points. Thanks again for confirming that fact. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 7 hours ago, Social Media said: Traditionally, our understanding of time has been intricately linked to Earth's rotation, with each day determined by the subtle nuances of its spin. However, this rotational rhythm is far from constant, subject to fluctuations driven by both surface phenomena and internal dynamics within the Earth's molten core. So time is not changing, What is changing is how we measure time. And time couldn't care less what we do. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I love when you post these silly one word retorts. Good to see you found a new one though, "Pinned" was getting boring. It just proves to me you have nothing intelligent to say that disproves my points. Thanks again for confirming that fact. Here’s an idea for an intelligent response to this nonsense: ”I wouldn't be at all surprised to see temporary lockdowns for climate based reasons in the next decade. Just very short ones, just to test the waters.” If it came out of the mouth of someone sitting next to me on a bus I’d move seats and get off at the very next stop. 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted March 28 Popular Post Share Posted March 28 40 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Here’s an idea for an intelligent response to this nonsense: ”I wouldn't be at all surprised to see temporary lockdowns for climate based reasons in the next decade. Just very short ones, just to test the waters.” If it came out of the mouth of someone sitting next to me on a bus I’d move seats and get off at the very next stop. It would be better for all involved I think if on the bus you could just wear a face mask to protect you from "man made global warming" as that way the person you chose to sit next to on the bus would know exactly what your opinions are on Climate change, Palestine, Covid, LBGTQ+2LSA, illegal immigration, pronouns, Trump, the Tories etc and would be able to make an informed decision to move elsewhere (or pretend someone else is sitting there) before you got a chance to. That way this person would be safe from being infected by leftist woke nonsense. 2 4 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 15 minutes ago, James105 said: It would be better for all involved I think if on the bus you could just wear a face mask to protect you from "man made global warming" as that way the person you chose to sit next to on the bus would know exactly what your opinions are on Climate change, Palestine, Covid, LBGTQ+2LSA, illegal immigration, pronouns, Trump, the Tories etc and would be able to make an informed decision to move elsewhere (or pretend someone else is sitting there) before you got a chance to. That way this person would be safe from being infected by leftist woke nonsense. Well it is just past 18:00hrs, so I guess that makes sense. Edited March 28 by Chomper Higgot 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, sirineou said: So time is not changing, What is changing is how we measure time. And time couldn't care less what we do. If one were to be pricese then time is actually changing in a way because time is relative and one of the things it's being influenced by is speed. So a change in rotational speed will change time for some observers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 20 hours ago, Social Media said: ultimately affecting the very essence of time itself. These subtle variations occasionally necessitate adjustments to our clocks through the introduction of a "leap second." While seemingly insignificant, the addition or subtraction of a single second can have profound implications, particularly for the intricate workings of modern computing systems. Right, like the world ended at 00:00:01 Jan 2000 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 hours ago, eisfeld said: If one were to be pricese then time is actually changing in a way because time is relative and one of the things it's being influenced by is speed. So a change in rotational speed will change time for some observers. That would depend on the definition of time, If time is the delineation of one event from another, then since these processes have not changed , time has also not changed. What has changed is our relationship to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homburg Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 20 hours ago, Social Media said: ultimately affecting the very essence of time itself. This point is in a way (almost unbelievably) actually correct, although not in the way that the it is put in the article because it is the change in the Earth's rotational speed that requires the subtraction of a leap second, not a change in "the essence of time". Nevertheless, time really is being impacted by global warming. We all tend to assume that time passes at the same rate everywhere on Earth, but this is not the case. According to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity (no, seriously!) time does not flow at a constant rate everywhere in the Universe, but will flow at different rates depending on the warpage of space-time by gravity, with time passing more slowly as gravity increases. Global warming is moving mass from the poles to the oceans and is therefore impacting gravity at different points on the Earth's surface (now reduced at the poles and increased in the oceans - mostly at or near the equator) and with it the flow rate of time at those different points on the Earth's surface. So as the polar ice melts time passes more quickly at the poles and more slowly at the equator. The difference is however incredibly miniscule. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 21 hours ago, Social Media said: The inexorable march of time, governed by the Earth's rotation, is facing an unprecedented disruption due to the effects of global warming. In a remarkable turn of events, the melting of polar ice caps is not only altering the Earth's climate but also influencing its rotation, ultimately affecting the very essence of time itself. Traditionally, our understanding of time has been intricately linked to Earth's rotation, with each day determined by the subtle nuances of its spin. However, this rotational rhythm is far from constant, subject to fluctuations driven by both surface phenomena and internal dynamics within the Earth's molten core. These subtle variations occasionally necessitate adjustments to our clocks through the introduction of a "leap second." While seemingly insignificant, the addition or subtraction of a single second can have profound implications, particularly for the intricate workings of modern computing systems. Historically, leap seconds have been predominantly added to accommodate the gradual slowing of the Earth's rotation. However, in a remarkable twist, the planet's rotation is now accelerating due to changes in its core, necessitating the unprecedented subtraction of a second. This shift in Earth's rotational dynamics has been further compounded by the effects of global warming, particularly the melting of polar ice caps. As vast quantities of ice melt into the ocean, they disrupt the planet's equilibrium, causing a redistribution of mass that further influences its rotation speed. The interplay between these environmental factors and Earth's core processes is complex and multifaceted. While the melting of polar ice exerts a decelerating force on rotation, changes in the Earth's core contribute to an overall acceleration. The consequences of this shifting temporal landscape extend beyond mere abstraction, posing tangible challenges for modern society, especially in the realm of computing. While some computer systems are equipped to accommodate the addition of a leap second, few possess the capability to subtract one, potentially leading to disruptions and errors. Despite these technical complexities, the broader implications of these findings are profound. They underscore the profound impact of human activities on the Earth's natural systems, highlighting the interconnectedness of environmental and temporal phenomena. Ultimately, this convergence of environmental change and temporal flux serves as a potent reminder of humanity's capacity to shape the very fabric of our planet. As we grapple with the repercussions of global warming, the need for greater awareness and stewardship of our environment becomes ever more urgent. 28.03.24 Source Laura Paddison and Rachel Ramirez need to learn to write in plain English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Soooooo, I'm going to lose ( or gain ) a few seconds before I die. Should I be building a survival shelter? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 14 minutes ago, Homburg said: Global warming is moving mass from the poles to the oceans and is therefore impacting gravity at different points on the Earth's surface (now reduced at the poles and increased in the oceans - mostly at or near the equator) and with it the flow rate of time at those different points on the Earth's surface. Get back to me when I need to travel by canoe instead of my car. Till then it's irrelevant to the average person. It's not like anyone can actually do anything about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 58 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Right, like the world ended at 00:00:01 Jan 2000 Man, that has to be one of the biggest scams in history, LOL! Did no one think to change a computer's clock to 23:59:59 31 Dec 1999, and see what happened a second later? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 30 minutes ago, Homburg said: This point is in a way (almost unbelievably) actually correct, although not in the way that the it is put in the article because it is the change in the Earth's rotational speed that requires the subtraction of a leap second, not a change in "the essence of time". Nevertheless, time really is being impacted by global warming. We all tend to assume that time passes at the same rate everywhere on Earth, but this is not the case. According to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity (no, seriously!) time does not flow at a constant rate everywhere in the Universe, but will flow at different rates depending on the warpage of space-time by gravity, with time passing more slowly as gravity increases. Global warming is moving mass from the poles to the oceans and is therefore impacting gravity at different points on the Earth's surface (now reduced at the poles and increased in the oceans - mostly at or near the equator) and with it the flow rate of time at those different points on the Earth's surface. So as the polar ice melts time passes more quickly at the poles and more slowly at the equator. The difference is however incredibly miniscule. There is only temporary effect on speeding up the planet, and also other factors influence, as the moons distance and cyclus in relation to earth, the inner core of eath, and the tectonic plates, so not only the outer mass on earth influence earths rotation, which is only temporary for the moment before it slows down again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parallelman Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 'The inexorable march of time, governed by the Earth's rotation,' this alone tells us it's not worth reading....Earth does not govern 'time' and it means even less to those who consider time as an illusion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, parallelman said: 'The inexorable march of time, governed by the Earth's rotation,' this alone tells us it's not worth reading....Earth does not govern 'time' and it means even less to those who consider time as an illusion. Time is esential for all technology we are depending on our daily lives, and are influenced by earths change in rotation 🤓 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Just now, Hummin said: Time is esential for all technology we are depending on our daily lives, and are influenced by earths change in rotation 🤓 Time is essential for us humans, because we have limited time on this planet to do something for our self and close ones. Time is everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionigi Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 24 hours is not measured by the rotation of the earth. Time is measured by atomic clocks, due to the rotation of the earth not being exactly 24 hours( and the rotation is slowing) occasionally clocks must be altered to make up for the difference. That is a leap second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPCVguy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 The headline got people to look, the reality is not soon so significant. Actually, the climate consequences are delaying a reverse negative leap second from 2026 to maybe 2029. • https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/melting-polar-ice-may-be-slowing-earth-s-spin-and-messing-with-how-we-measure-time/ar-BB1kHsvu What is happening is that the mass of ice at the poles that melts ends up becoming part of the water bulge of oceans at the equator. Just like a figure skater can slow a spin by extending arms outward, the added mass at the equator means the Earth spins slightly slower. But the changes at Earth's core was causing a speeding up of the rotation. The definition of a day being 24 hours of 60 minutes, each having 60 seconds has already been replaced by using the adoption of atomic clocks in 1967. That change of time measurement revolutionized timekeeping, relying on the precise frequency of atoms for accurate measurements. People who are responsible for posting the time nationally will track the topic, come to an agreement and reset their clocks in the year needed, subsequent radio and communications systems will follow along, and most people will never notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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