Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

[Nick Carter icp]

26 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Is that why Jews in 1947 had bought around 7% of the land from Arabs? Is that why it was called Palestine ever since the Romans took over in the 7th century? Kind of strange right.... The country was literally called British mandate for Palestine, had Arab owners and tenants on the land, and yet you claim it is Jewish?

Crazy!

 

   We have been asked numerous time to stop giving history lessons .

Try to conform to that request 

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Really?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/us-intelligence-unrwa-hamas

 

Yes really, your claim: Even America hasn't seen any evidence.

 

Not true, evidence was shared with Congress as well as UNWRA numerous times and you may want to note that the US has suspended all funding till at least 2025

 

These reports range from 10 to 200 pages. For example, just in November, we sent a report on 20 teachers who celebrated the October 7th massacre. In March, together with IMPACT-se, we identified 133 UNRWA teachers and staff who promoted hate and violence in social media. In June 2022, we released a report called UNRWA’s Teachers of Hate. It included the following Facebook post by Elham Mansour, an UNRWA teacher: “By Allah, anyone who can kill and slaughter any Zionist and Israeli criminal and doesn’t do so, doesn’t deserve to live. Kill them and pursue them everywhere. They are the greatest enemy. All Israel deserves is death.” This is an UNRWA teacher’s statement on Facebook. We sent it to the UN. They did nothing.

We sent them reports in 2021, 2019, 2017, 2015 numerous reports.

https://unwatch.org/hillel-neuers-congressional-testimony-on-unrwas-failure/

 

I will wait for a link to your claim

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

Yes, The UK has a culture and tradition of innocent until proven guilty.

There is no evidence that any rapes occurred. So British Muslims are most definitely following British laws, and I support them.

How can you deport your own citizens? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard...

 

   You missed out the "Murder" bit .

The thread title includes murder and there is evidence that murder happened .

Are you saying that you think no crimes were committed by Palestinians on Oct 7 th ?

[Brickleberry]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes really, your claim: Even America hasn't seen any evidence.

 

Not true, evidence was shared with Congress as well as UNWRA numerous times and you may want to note that the US has suspended all funding till at least 2025

 

These reports range from 10 to 200 pages. For example, just in November, we sent a report on 20 teachers who celebrated the October 7th massacre. In March, together with IMPACT-se, we identified 133 UNRWA teachers and staff who promoted hate and violence in social media. In June 2022, we released a report called UNRWA’s Teachers of Hate. It included the following Facebook post by Elham Mansour, an UNRWA teacher: “By Allah, anyone who can kill and slaughter any Zionist and Israeli criminal and doesn’t do so, doesn’t deserve to live. Kill them and pursue them everywhere. They are the greatest enemy. All Israel deserves is death.” This is an UNRWA teacher’s statement on Facebook. We sent it to the UN. They did nothing.

We sent them reports in 2021, 2019, 2017, 2015 numerous reports.

https://unwatch.org/hillel-neuers-congressional-testimony-on-unrwas-failure/

 

I will wait for a link to your claim

 

 

 

I already sent you the link. No one has seen ANY evidence. Only allegations (Israeli for LIE).

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-evidence-israel-back-unrwa-accusations-says-eu-humanitarian-chief-2024-03-14/

 

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No evidence from Israel to back UNRWA accusations, says EU humanitarian chief

https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024

Quote

The Facts: UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim. UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official.    

Like any other UN organization, UNRWA carries out detailed reference checks on any staff the Agency recruits. In addition, UNRWA shares the names, employee numbers, and functions of all staff members every year in all five areas of operations with the host authorities (Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and the Palestinian Authority) and, for the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza, with Israel as the occupying power.  This means that at all times, host states and Israel are fully informed and aware of the details of all staff members working for UNRWA. Other UN Member States also receive these lists upon request. 

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-intel-unrwa-israel/

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US intel has 'low confidence' in Israel's UNRWA claims

The Israeli government has yet to provide evidence that employees of the UN agency participated in Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack

 

[Brickleberry]

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

We sent them reports in 2021, 2019, 2017, 2015 numerous reports.

https://unwatch.org/hillel-neuers-congressional-testimony-on-unrwas-failure/

 

 

Also, this is the MOST biased source you could ever come across. It is literally an Israeli organization that is paid to discredit the UN, with its aim being to dismantle UNRWA. Classy.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I already sent you the link. No one has seen ANY evidence. Only allegations (Israeli for LIE).

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-evidence-israel-back-unrwa-accusations-says-eu-humanitarian-chief-2024-03-14/

 

https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-intel-unrwa-israel/

 

Here is some evidence, stop this nonsense denial. A UNWRA Social worker taking a body back to Gaza. (dressed in black) I have already provided a link to the evidence shared to US Congress, there is a video of it to.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/video-shows-unrwa-social-worker-abducting-body-of-israeli-on-oct-7/

 

Your claim: Even America hasn't seen any evidence.

 

Telling porkies

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Also, this is the MOST biased source you could ever come across. It is literally an Israeli organization that is paid to discredit the UN, with its aim being to dismantle UNRWA. Classy.

Agree, pretty classy.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Also, this is the MOST biased source you could ever come across. It is literally an Israeli organization that is paid to discredit the UN, with its aim being to dismantle UNRWA. Classy.

 

That isn't true .   Unwatch is a Swiss non Governmental organisation and its not an Israeli organisation and it isn't paid for by Israel . UN watch also comment on numerous World issues, not just Israel .

   Of course people that don't follow world events and just are obsessed with Israel, they wouldn't know that 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Goat said:

Well lets face it, the Israelis have been caught out spewing all sorts of lies over the last six months.

I dont believe a word they say anymore.

Such as? Care to share...........

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Goat said:

Well lets face it, the Israelis have been caught out spewing all sorts of lies over the last six months.

I dont believe a word they say anymore.

Such as........?   🤔

[Brickleberry]

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here is some evidence, stop this nonsense denial. A UNWRA Social worker taking a body back to Gaza. (dressed in black) I have already provided a link to the evidence shared to US Congress, there is a video of it to.

 

 

Your claim: Even America hasn't seen any evidence.

 

Telling porkies

 

 

 

I've provided so many links proving my claims. You can't even find one verified claim!

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Brickleberry said:

 

I've provided so many links proving my claims. You can't even find one verified claim!

No you haven't, your claim has not been proven at all, stamp your feet as much as you like

 

"Even America hasn't seen any evidence."

[TroubleandGrumpy]

11 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Sad............

 

46% of Muslims living in the UK Sympathize with Hamas. 

39% deny the crimes committed on Oct 7th. 

37% say they are unsure whether Hamas killed and r*ped civilians. 

32% of Muslims want Sharia law in the UK. 

 

No wonder the Pro Palestinian rallies in The UK are full of terrorist supporters

 

https://jlpartners.com/polling-results

https://www.thejc.com/news/only-1-in-4-british-muslims-believe-hamas-carried-out-rape-and-murder-on-october-7-according-to-survey-x3svowng

 

Fiyaz Mughal, founder of Muslims Against Antisemitism and the interfaith group Faith Matters, told the Sunday Telegraph that the findings are “shocking but also not shocking.”

He said: “The sense that Hamas did not conduct massacres and rapes in Israel is atrocious because it shows a closed-off mentality of anything emanating from Israel.”

 

What is really really sad is that Enoch Powell told everyone what was going to happen with unfetted immigration of people not 'suitable' or 'capable' of living in a modern democracy where there is a differentiation between the State and the Church - it just took a lot longer than he thought it would to become a serious problem.

 

[Brickleberry]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

That isn't true .   Unwatch is a Swiss non Governmental organisation and its not an Israeli organisation and it isn't paid for by Israel . UN watch also comment on numerous World issues, not just Israel .

   Of course people that don't follow world events and just are obsessed with Israel, they wouldn't know that 

 

You know this isn't true, you were caught out with this lie previously.https://unwatch.org/about-us/our-work/

 

It is based in Geneva - that is the location. Not country of origin.

 

It was set up by Israelis, and the head of the organization is Alfred Moses - an Israeli Jew

 

[Brickleberry]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No you haven't, your claim has not been proven at all, stamp your feet as much as you like

 

"Even America hasn't seen any evidence."

My claim has been proven multiple times: 4 different links!

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

My claim has been proven multiple times.

Pure denial and dishonesty

[Chetzee]

Presumably no brits suprised  by this in the slightest  ! London and the self made ghettos of the northern industrial towns  bare no relation to the country I grew up in these days ... 

[Brickleberry]

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pure denial and dishonesty

 

Look at you, holding up that mirror and looking deeply into it!

 

Here are more examples of NO evidence for any of Israel's UNRWA claims. Read all 11 sources if you like, they all say the same thing. No evidence at all.

 

 

Quote

A US intelligence report has found that Israel's claims that UNRWA staff members in Gaza took part in the deadly Hamas attack on Israel last October cannot be independently verified.

The US National Intelligence Council said in a report last week that it had “low confidence” that staff at the UN agency for Palestinian refugees took part in the violence in southern Israel on October 7, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The “low confidence” conclusion means that the US intelligence community believes Israel's claims may be plausible but that American agencies could not independently confirm them.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/01/unrwa-funding-pause-employees-october-7-hamas-attack-claims-no-evidence-un

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-evidence-israel-back-unrwa-accusations-says-eu-humanitarian-chief-2024-03-14/

https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024?__cf_chl_tk=5S.mwsrjl_GFmaB77zJL1h30pWirR7vNQcN5XW7FVLc-1712574835-0.0.1.1-1706

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/unwra-hamas-israel/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/eu-humanitarian-chief-claims-no-evidence-from-israel-to-back-unrwa-accusations/

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240212-absence-of-evidence-israels-case-against-unrwa/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/09/head-of-unwra-says-he-followed-reverse-due-process-in-sacking-accused-gaza-staff

https://truthout.org/articles/report-finds-no-evidence-in-key-dossier-to-support-israels-unrwa-allegations/

https://www.newarab.com/news/no-evidence-israeli-unrwa-claims-six-page-dossier

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/15/israel-unrwa-oct-7-un-investigation-hamas/

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2024/02/22/us-says-it-cannot-independently-verify-israels-unrwa-claims/

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

You know this isn't true, you were caught out with this lie previously.https://unwatch.org/about-us/our-work/

 

It is based in Geneva - that is the location. Not country of origin.

 

It was set up by Israelis, and the head of the organization is Alfred Moses - an Israeli Jew

 

 

   Stop lying, Unwatch was set up by an American citizen Morris B Abram and Unwatch didnt originate in Israel .

   It wasn't set up by Israelis either 

 

  Unwatch :

"Protecting Human Rights Worldwide

UN Watch has worked on issues in over 80 countries across the world."

 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Look at you, holding up that mirror and looking deeply into it!

 

Here are more examples of NO evidence for any of Israel's UNRWA claims. Read all 11 sources if you like, they all say the same thing. No evidence at all.

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/01/unrwa-funding-pause-employees-october-7-hamas-attack-claims-no-evidence-un

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-evidence-israel-back-unrwa-accusations-says-eu-humanitarian-chief-2024-03-14/

https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024?__cf_chl_tk=5S.mwsrjl_GFmaB77zJL1h30pWirR7vNQcN5XW7FVLc-1712574835-0.0.1.1-1706

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/unwra-hamas-israel/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/eu-humanitarian-chief-claims-no-evidence-from-israel-to-back-unrwa-accusations/

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240212-absence-of-evidence-israels-case-against-unrwa/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/09/head-of-unwra-says-he-followed-reverse-due-process-in-sacking-accused-gaza-staff

https://truthout.org/articles/report-finds-no-evidence-in-key-dossier-to-support-israels-unrwa-allegations/

https://www.newarab.com/news/no-evidence-israeli-unrwa-claims-six-page-dossier

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/15/israel-unrwa-oct-7-un-investigation-hamas/

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2024/02/22/us-says-it-cannot-independently-verify-israels-unrwa-claims/

 

 

Evidence presented to US congress

 

 

[BigBruv]

The Muslims obvs know who owns 90%+ of the media companies 

 

Also

Blinken (US Secretary of State) is Jual Citizen

as is

Grant Schapps (UK Head of 'Defence')

& Zelensky?

You guessed it!

 

Imagine if they were all Thai dual nationals  :-))))

 

No coindence

 

[Brickleberry]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Stop lying, Unwatch was set up by an American citizen Morris B Abram and Unwatch didnt originate in Israel .

   It wasn't set up by Israelis either 

 

  Unwatch :

"Protecting Human Rights Worldwide

UN Watch has worked on issues in over 80 countries across the world."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the truth. Read it and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Watch

 

Quote

Harris announced that UN Watch had become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Jewish Committee. According to a press release at the time, “UN Watch was established with the generous assistance of Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress. Eighteen months ago, the American Jewish Committee and the World Jewish Congress reached an agreement, approved by the international board of UN Watch, to transfer full control of the organization to AJC, an agreement that went into effect on January 1, 2001

 

[BigBruv]

1 minute ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Here's the truth. Read it and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Watch

 

 

 

Some argue that the US is a colony of Israel and that Biden or Trump are just the shabbos

[Brickleberry]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Evidence presented to US congress

 

 

Again, your only showing one lying organization that has skin in the game: It is a Jewish organization that wants to dismantle UNRWA!

 

You need to find 3rd party evidence my friend. No one with an education believes this tripe. Just find one solid piece of actual evidence.... oh wait, you can't!

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Again, your only showing one lying organization that has skin in the game: It is a Jewish organization that wants to dismantle UNRWA!

 

You need to find 3rd party evidence my friend. No one with an education believes this tripe. Just find one solid piece of actual evidence.... oh wait, you can't!

 

 

No I am showing you evidence being presented to Congress. Are you claiming I do not have an education now?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Here's the truth. Read it and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Watch

 

 

 

   I was questioning your claim that it was set up by Israelis .

You seem to be saying that all Jews Worldwide are Israelis .

UNwatch expose Anti-Semitism within the UN , I suspect that you would oppose that and think that Anti Semitism should be normal within the U.N 

[Ratel Snake]

What a surprise.............

........... for leftists, democrats and liberals.

[Cory1848]

11 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

More than just sad.  The Brits had better do something pretty quick before the religious fanatics take over.  I"ll leave to your imagination as what should be done.

Well, from what I see online, people who identify as “Muslim” make up 6.5 percent of the UK population, and the number of those who hold fanatical beliefs would be much less, so to hyperventilate about “[Muslim] religious fanatics taking over” seems excessive. That said, the large numbers of UK Muslims who sympathize with Hamas and deny their attack on Israel is indeed alarming. This, however, speaks more to the growing influence of disinformation more generally, not only in the UK but around the world. There would be ways to counter that disinformation and educate people, which might require some patience but would be far preferable to the mass deportations that you advocate (I assume, in your veiled threat: why not just say what’s on your mind?), and all the human misery and violence such deportations would entail.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, from what I see online, people who identify as “Muslim” make up 6.5 percent of the UK population, and the number of those who hold fanatical beliefs would be much less, so to hyperventilate about “[Muslim] religious fanatics taking over” seems excessive. That said, the large numbers of UK Muslims who sympathize with Hamas and deny their attack on Israel is indeed alarming. This, however, speaks more to the growing influence of disinformation more generally, not only in the UK but around the world. There would be ways to counter that disinformation and educate people, which might require some patience but would be far preferable to the mass deportations that you advocate (I assume, in your veiled threat: why not just say what’s on your mind?), and all the human misery and violence such deportations would entail.

But, I believe the book they go by wants real Brits put down.........

[BigBruv]

4 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, from what I see online, people who identify as “Muslim” make up 6.5 percent of the UK population, and the number of those who hold fanatical beliefs would be much less, so to hyperventilate about “[Muslim] religious fanatics taking over” seems excessive. That said, the large numbers of UK Muslims who sympathize with Hamas and deny their attack on Israel is indeed alarming. This, however, speaks more to the growing influence of disinformation more generally, not only in the UK but around the world. There would be ways to counter that disinformation and educate people, which might require some patience but would be far preferable to the mass deportations that you advocate (I assume, in your veiled threat: why not just say what’s on your mind?), and all the human misery and violence such deportations would entail.

 

Must be weird being a Muslim in the UK.

 

UK Government only to happy to give you a passport but the population, through media brainwashing, believe you're all suicide bombers.

 

Divide & conquer.

 

Get the plebs fighting amongst themselves so we can carry on with the looting?