Presidential debate is over, have your opinions changed ? What was your take ?

[Fat is a type of crazy]

23 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Why lie?

Not lying Susan. Even Fox News had to admit it. 

[GammaGlobulin]

They are both even older than I had feared.

Two zombies, both.

 

 

[susanlea]

8 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Inflation - mainly caused by covid spending and hard to reign in. Been away from economic news for a month but through this last year seen even Fox news reports where they reluctantly had to admit the combination of growing economy, jobs, and decreasing inflation is impressive. I don't even really give credit to politicians - it's more about providing a stable political and economic environment and getting out of the way. 

That doesn't make it easier for someone dealing with inflation who doesn't benefit from shares or property who has to buy the essentials- but it's hard in my opinion not to see that America has handled it pretty well in comparison to the world.

But Trump is to my knowledge still recommending a 10 per cent tariff on imports - mentioned today - terrible for inflation - and some close to him about blunting the Reserve bank independence on increasing interest rates to handle inflation - said it before but see what that did to Turkiye. 

Inflation was high for too long. Still high. Biden just blames Trump. Trump had inflation at 1.7%. You can't blame covid or Trump in 2024. Biden is the dumbest world leader in history.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Inflation - mainly caused by covid spending and hard to reign in. Been away from economic news for a month but through this last year seen even Fox news reports where they reluctantly had to admit the combination of growing economy, jobs, and decreasing inflation is impressive. I don't even really give credit to politicians - it's more about providing a stable political and economic environment and getting out of the way. 

That doesn't make it easier for someone dealing with inflation who doesn't benefit from shares or property who has to buy the essentials- but it's hard in my opinion not to see that America has handled it pretty well in comparison to the world.

But Trump is to my knowledge still recommending a 10 per cent tariff on imports - mentioned today - terrible for inflation - and some close to him about blunting the Reserve bank independence on increasing interest rates to handle inflation - said it before but see what that did to Turkiye. 

So, clearly you don't live in the USA and know nothing of economic conditions on the ground. Why didnt you just say that?

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Fox news reports where they reluctantly had to admit the combination of growing economy, jobs, and decreasing inflation is impressive. I

Huh? Full time jobs fell by 2.4m over the past year. 

[susanlea]

Just now, Yagoda said:

So, clearly you don't live in the USA and know nothing of economic conditions on the ground. Why didnt you just say that?

Democrat.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Just now, Yagoda said:

So, clearly you don't live in the USA and know nothing of economic conditions on the ground. Why didnt you just say that?

I am an Australian who has felt the effects of inflation as wages didn't keep us so I feel that pain and can make comparisons. 

[susanlea]

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Not lying Susan. Even Fox News had to admit it. 

Admit what? You don't even know the figures. Stop lying.

[Yagoda]

22 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Food inflation

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/food-inflation

Everything is inflated. Try running a business. Food, fuel, electric, insurance. Dont get me started on the pathetic "climate crisis".

 

The entire policies of the Democratic Party are as harmful to the USA as having a semi demented mediocre machine politician as the President. On every issue, their policies are rejected by the American people. 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I am an Australian who has felt the effects of inflation as wages didn't keep us so I feel that pain and can make comparisons. 

Then research the numbers. Trump had low unemployment, low inflation and a secure border.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

climate crisis".

Been mild for 20 years where i lived. Fake crisis. Hottest days i had were in 1982 and 2004.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I am an Australian who has felt the effects of inflation as wages didn't keep us so I feel that pain and can make comparisons. 

Inflationary pressures and causes are far different than ours. In fact, as we get screwed by inflation in America, it sinks down to you guys.

 

Bet you gas prices in Oz go down when we start drill baby drilling again.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Just now, susanlea said:

Then research the numbers. Trump had low unemployment, low inflation and a secure border.

Spent a <deleted> load on covid support - much of which went to the wrong people and criminals  - and that and supply issues related to covid and the growing economy after covid was a key reason for inflation that followed. Not blaming him - they did it everywhere. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, susanlea said:

Been mild for 20 years where i lived. Fake crisis. Hottest days i had were in 1982 and 2004.

Too bad. Give up your ICE for an EV. Limit your lifestyle while China burns more coal.

 

The world is going to change for the better real soon. Trump 2024.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Too bad. Give up your ICE for an EV. Limit your lifestyle while China burns more coal.

 

The world is going to change for the better real soon. Trump 2024.

Look at Chiang Mai pollution. These climate crisis idiots in the west have no idea. Many of them white men and women who have never been to Asia.

[impulse]

I'm not a Biden fan at all.  In fact, just the opposite.  But this morning, I felt sorry for him, suffering the elder abuse.  With another twinge of sympathy watching Jill lead him off the stage.

 

The presidential debate isn't the only thing that ended today.

 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

I'm not a Biden fan at all.  In fact, just the opposite.  But this morning, I felt sorry for him, suffering the elder abuse.  With another twinge of sympathy watching Jill lead him off the stage.

 

The presidential debate isn't the only thing that ended today.

 

Free pension, free transport. I don't feel sorry for him. Life of luxury while others suffered. 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

 

The presidential debate isn't the only thing that ended today.

 

And the Supreme Court just overturned Chevron (maybe they will have a topic on this soon). Its a new dawn.

[novacova]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

But this morning, I felt sorry for him, suffering the elder abuse.

I don’t feel sorry for him at all, he’s a career politician, the elderly abuse he’s enduring is of his own making. Though it’s quite the eyesore.

[Cryingdick]

I am not sure how Biden is going to be able to ever meet any foreign leader and look them in the eyes at this point.i guess he is lucky that he thinks he won't the debate and everything is groovy. Anybody that had even slight self awareness would be ashamed. But that's not Joe.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Good point, I don't trust them, I feel they have something up their sleeve. 

 

Good point? No point. If the voters don't trust a new candidate they won't vote for him. 'voters don't really matter to them' is simply nonsense. 

Except for Trump who recently made that statement.

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Good point? No point. If the voters don't trust a new candidate they won't vote for him. 'voters don't really matter to them' is simply nonsense. 

Except for Trump who recently made that statement.

Most voters don't have a clue. 99% don't know the numbers. They just follow the party lies.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

It's being reported he won't. Kamala is still behind him as well. Biden lives a life completely unencumbered by reality. He orobanly thinks it was fine. He did shown up at a Waffle House after it and tried to down play it.

A waffle house - unconscious irony!

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

But, but. but trump isn't a Democrat!

give up while you still can

[Cryingdick]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Good point? No point. If the voters don't trust a new candidate they won't vote for him. 'voters don't really matter to them' is simply nonsense. 

Except for Trump who recently made that statement.

 

The lesson here is they should have had a primary that would have given the public a chance to observe and vet the candidates. They tried to shoehorn a puppet in and now the clean up on aisle 46 is going to be very messy if it can be done. For most oeoole that have two eyes it was obvious for the last several n years the basement strategy was untenable. It worked once because of Covid but that's it.

[frank83628]

i am reading to page 10 but i dont see jingthing, danderman, chomper, and all the other <removed> crew......what happened? or should i continue reading to page 16?? cat got your tongue ?  hahaahahahah

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Now there is a point.....every time someone tells a lie a buzzer/hooter should sound. In which case trump's lies would be laid bare for all to see. After all he did participate in game shows, so he would be no stranger to this and it might show the American public what a liar and conman he is, if they didn't already know.

 

But having said that the Republicans already DO KNOW what a liar he is........so it says everything about them!! 

so, did biden lie also?

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, theblether said:

Cringe - 

 

 

yep, cringe . com

 

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

You embarrass yourself.

nah, youre doing that all on your own! are you stiull defending Biden after that ?

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Well 70 million folks plus dont think he is, so last I looked, you arent Diogenes

I'm afraid that I don't really get the Diogenes reference, all I know is that he was the originator of the cynic movement (and I am quite cynical) and that he came from Corinth. 

 

I have been to Corinth - sailed through the Corinth Canal on a trip from Malta to Athens. Quite amazing. Stopped in a little place called Navpaxos, and I went ashore to buy provisions for the boat (crew of 12). In the only shop, speaking no Greek I launched into an extravagent and elaborate mime, to order the food needed. After some twenty minutes the young lady who was behind the counter took pity on me, and announced that she was from Melbourne in Australia, and was back staying with her grandparents who owned the shop.

I felt a complete fool!